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ADEX 2023: KAI optimistic of Indonesia's ability to fulfil KF-21 cost-share agreement​


17 October 2023
by Akhil Kadidal

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Amid concerns over Indonesia's delays in meeting its cost-share obligations for the Korea Aerospace Industries' (KAI's) KF-21 ‘Boromae' 4.5-generation fighter aircraft project, a KAI official, at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition (ADEX) 2023, said that a recent meeting between South Korean and Indonesian defense officials left room for optimism.

According to the KAI official, Indonesian Minister of Defense Prabowo Subianto has given assurances to Eom Dong-hwan, the South Korean minister for Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), that Jakarta would honour its financial agreements to the programme. Janes previously reported on the 5 October meeting between Eom and Subianto, however, the Indonesian Ministry of Defense has not provided specifics on the outcome of that meeting.

The official, a member of the KAI KF-21 development team, told Janes during Seoul ADEX 2023 on 17 October that Indonesia still owes KRW1 trillion (USD739 million) to the project as part of its cost-share agreements. Total project cost is KRW 8.8 trillion (USD 6.73 billion USD)

Under the current agreement, Indonesia's cost share involvement give it access to four joint development facets of the engineering, manufacturing, and development (EMD) phase of KF21 program.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...-ability-to-fulfil-kf-21-cost-share-agreement
 



Indonesia’s delayed payment imperils South Korea’s KF-21 fighter project


Posted on November 2, 2023 by alert5


In a disconcerting turn of events, Indonesia has yet again failed to notify the South Korean government of its financial plan for contributing to the KF-21 fighter project, jeopardizing this collaborative endeavor.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), South Korea’s arms procurement agency, expressed its concerns as Indonesia failed to provide the expected payment schedule by the end of October, further straining the partnership.

The KF-21, a groundbreaking supersonic combat aircraft, is the outcome of a joint project between South Korea and Indonesia. It seeks to harness South Korea’s cutting-edge technology for essential components of the aircraft.

Back in 2016, Indonesia had agreed to finance approximately $958 million (1.3 trillion South Korean won), amounting to around 20% of the overall project’s cost. In exchange, Indonesia was promised a prototype of the fighter jet and technical assistance for the domestic production of 48 units within its territory.

However, the recent delay in Indonesia’s payments has raised concerns. Of the promised amount, Indonesia has disbursed approximately $208.7 million, leaving a substantial outstanding payment of $743.3 million.

This is not the first time Indonesia has delayed notifying South Korea about its payment schedule. Earlier this year, they pledged to provide this schedule by the end of June but did not deliver. Subsequently, they rescheduled their commitment for the end of October but have failed to meet this deadline as well.

Minister of DAPA Eom Dongwhan recently expressed his concerns during a parliamentary audit of the arms procurement agency, stating that if Indonesia continues to break its promises, they might be forced to reconsider the entire joint project.

This inconsistency in payments has cast doubts on Indonesia’s commitment to developing this advanced multirole warplane, which aims to strengthen the air forces of both nations and has far-reaching implications for their national security.

As of now, DAPA is considering various possibilities regarding its partnership with Indonesia, while awaiting the payment plans promised by Jakarta. They have also made plans to amend their basic agreement with Indonesia on the joint project by the end of the year to address the payment issue.

Indonesia’s decision to purchase fighter jets from other countries while withholding payments to South Korea has significantly eroded the latter’s trust. Financial constraints have been cited as the reason for the delayed payments. Indonesia signed a memorandum of understanding to acquire 24 units of the F-15EX from U.S. manufacturer Boeing Co. In February 2022, Indonesia also sealed an $8.1 billion deal to procure 42 Dassault Rafale fighter jets from France.

Choi Hyun-ho, a military commentator, suggests that Indonesia might be opting for fighter jets that can be immediately deployed in combat, in contrast to the KF-21, which is still under development. The country currently operates Russian fighter jets and older F-16s, and the need for more capable and readily deployable aircraft might be pressing.

Experts believe that Indonesia’s delay in payments might also be politically motivated. Indonesia’s Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto, who is the son-in-law of former President Suharto, is anticipated to run for the presidency in the upcoming election. This might lead to attempts to renegotiate the terms of the KF-21 contract, seeking more favorable conditions for Indonesia.

Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), the South Korean aircraft developer, has assured that it can manage without Indonesia’s contributions. However, they have a contingency plan and are evaluating when or if to put it into action. The situation remains uncertain as both countries navigate the complexities of this joint project.




>> Indonesia is a poor industrial partner to me - esp if it letting it internal political games affect this industrial partnership - i have never seen a country so unwilling to meet its commitments on an internal collaboration defence development project. Same story again and again ..

Honestly - if i was S.Korea i would ask Indonesia to leave and find another partner. This cannot be good for the programme..
 



Indonesia’s delayed payment imperils South Korea’s KF-21 fighter project


Posted on November 2, 2023 by alert5


In a disconcerting turn of events, Indonesia has yet again failed to notify the South Korean government of its financial plan for contributing to the KF-21 fighter project, jeopardizing this collaborative endeavor.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), South Korea’s arms procurement agency, expressed its concerns as Indonesia failed to provide the expected payment schedule by the end of October, further straining the partnership.

The KF-21, a groundbreaking supersonic combat aircraft, is the outcome of a joint project between South Korea and Indonesia. It seeks to harness South Korea’s cutting-edge technology for essential components of the aircraft.

Back in 2016, Indonesia had agreed to finance approximately $958 million (1.3 trillion South Korean won), amounting to around 20% of the overall project’s cost. In exchange, Indonesia was promised a prototype of the fighter jet and technical assistance for the domestic production of 48 units within its territory.

However, the recent delay in Indonesia’s payments has raised concerns. Of the promised amount, Indonesia has disbursed approximately $208.7 million, leaving a substantial outstanding payment of $743.3 million.

This is not the first time Indonesia has delayed notifying South Korea about its payment schedule. Earlier this year, they pledged to provide this schedule by the end of June but did not deliver. Subsequently, they rescheduled their commitment for the end of October but have failed to meet this deadline as well.

Minister of DAPA Eom Dongwhan recently expressed his concerns during a parliamentary audit of the arms procurement agency, stating that if Indonesia continues to break its promises, they might be forced to reconsider the entire joint project.

This inconsistency in payments has cast doubts on Indonesia’s commitment to developing this advanced multirole warplane, which aims to strengthen the air forces of both nations and has far-reaching implications for their national security.

As of now, DAPA is considering various possibilities regarding its partnership with Indonesia, while awaiting the payment plans promised by Jakarta. They have also made plans to amend their basic agreement with Indonesia on the joint project by the end of the year to address the payment issue.

Indonesia’s decision to purchase fighter jets from other countries while withholding payments to South Korea has significantly eroded the latter’s trust. Financial constraints have been cited as the reason for the delayed payments. Indonesia signed a memorandum of understanding to acquire 24 units of the F-15EX from U.S. manufacturer Boeing Co. In February 2022, Indonesia also sealed an $8.1 billion deal to procure 42 Dassault Rafale fighter jets from France.

Choi Hyun-ho, a military commentator, suggests that Indonesia might be opting for fighter jets that can be immediately deployed in combat, in contrast to the KF-21, which is still under development. The country currently operates Russian fighter jets and older F-16s, and the need for more capable and readily deployable aircraft might be pressing.

Experts believe that Indonesia’s delay in payments might also be politically motivated. Indonesia’s Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto, who is the son-in-law of former President Suharto, is anticipated to run for the presidency in the upcoming election. This might lead to attempts to renegotiate the terms of the KF-21 contract, seeking more favorable conditions for Indonesia.

Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), the South Korean aircraft developer, has assured that it can manage without Indonesia’s contributions. However, they have a contingency plan and are evaluating when or if to put it into action. The situation remains uncertain as both countries navigate the complexities of this joint project.




>> Indonesia is a poor industrial partner to me - esp if it letting it internal political games affect this industrial partnership - i have never seen a country so unwilling to meet its commitments on an internal collaboration defence development project. Same story again and again ..

Honestly - if i was S.Korea i would ask Indonesia to leave and find another partner. This cannot be good for the programme..

Indonesia has started the payment since 2022

1. 2022 November
2. 2023 January (much bigger than 2022 payment)
3. 2024 (Budget has already been prepared which is double than 2023 amount)

You can check my IFX thread, the information there is more credible and precise than most foreign media talking about KF21/IFX.

Mostly foreign media only get the information from Korean side, never use Indonesian side. Many of the journalists are also not following the development since 2009 and not having good knowledge on this joint program, even many dont even read about the program from wikipedia that has compiled the history of the development since 2009. Those journalist also dont have connection to the KF21/ IFX team where I have. Many cannot differentiate which news is credible and which one is not. LOL even many uses twitter account not belonging to credible journalist as a source.

How can current gov can make a plan when they will be replaced by new administration in 2024 ? January 2024 we will get election. Jokowi cannot run again, we limit President period only for two term (each term is 5 years).

The program will be running until 2026 if there is nothing serious happening that can halt it, it means Indonesia still has some time to complete the payment. The payment is done gradually, per year.

Indonesian complain

Indonesian engineers cannot enter some technology development during EMD phase like flight control, software development, weapon integration and others ( Limitation on 9 key technologies from 121 technologies) which is violating the deal. This happened after US enter the development in 2016. During TD phase that resulted C103 design as KF21 main design, there is no such restriction. But nevertheless we have decided to keep continuing the join program

I believe the cooperation will likely be just fine inshaAllah. No one wants to ruin good relationship between two countries, either Indonesian or South Korea.
 
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All of work in Korean design center cannot get out from that place. Whether Korean, Indonesian, US work packages, all of the work result stayed in South Korea design Center. Only those limited work package done in Indonesian Aerospace during 2020 where the data are in Indonesian hand. Why ? Because 114 Indonesian design enginneers are called home in 2020 May. This is likely because some high rank Indonesian want to buy F35, so I speculate this guy that ask Indonesian engineers to come with reason there is Covid19. Sending home Indonesian engineers in 2020 May after CDR is completed in 2019 September could potentially make Indonesia out of the program, but USA later rejected the proposal to order F35. Those data in Korean Design Center related to design and also during development like during testing cannot be given to Indonesia if Indonesia not complete the payment.

Indonesia also cannot get the fifth prototype if we dont complete the payment. This fifth prototype will be used to develop Indonesian version based on our Air Force requirement that is not the same with SK Air Force requirement. More over, we have to use some different components due to US doesnt allow Indonesia to use it. So we have to integrate some different components, unless US allow it which is not the case until now

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Rational

If there is no complete payment, we cannot get the data and the prototype. So please use logic, how cant Indonesia not paying it ? If we dont pay it, it means what we have been working since 2011 will be useless.

Indonesia 2023 budget is about 216 billion USD, while we only need less than 1 billion USD to complete the payment (total Indonesia cost share is 1.3 billion USD).

Why we seems to delay it ? There is currency pressure going on Rupiah during 2018-2021 and also during 2022-2023. Paying in foreign currency can weaken our currency which is now being defended by increasing more than 220 basis point interest rate since 2022.

Why Prabowo wants to buy Rafale ? Because he need it to boost its Presidency potential and Rafale made by France, it is non US plane, in the past we have been embargoed by US since 1999-2005

Rafale is financed by long term soft loan from France. We will not pay it in large sum of money and so far only 24 planes that have been ordered.

F15 EX ? Prabowo proposal is for 8 planes only, look like conducted to strenghten bilateral cooperation with USA as we will sign strategic cooperation soon with USA. Signing strategic cooperation may let USA give us some export license on some KF21 technologies and allow our engineers to work on sensitive data needed for system integration particularly related to weapon integration and upgrade. Despite so, until now the acquisition plan of F15 EX hasnt been approved by our Finance Minister.

It is likely we just order 24 Rafale planes.
 
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