Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[Madali]

Latest Aleppo Map:

Reminder that insurgents have completely failed in their Aleppo attack. 1070 Apartment Project has fallen into SAA hands, and insurgents have been badly hurt. Aleppo is now almost certainly lost to the rebels, and if SAA succeeds, this will free up their men for further offensives.

 

[Serpentine]

Every single gain by terrorists in western Aleppo has been reversed. Hundreds of Nusra/allies turned into fertilizer for nothing.

 

[Metanoia]

As per some reports there was a renewed attack on SAA by ISIS in Deir Ezor area.

Result: Failed attack by ISIS, successful defense by the SAA, 15 ISIS terrorists killed.

 

[ptldM3]

Latest Aleppo Map:

Reminder that insurgents have completely failed in their Aleppo attack. 1070 Apartment Project has fallen into SAA hands, and insurgents have been badly hurt. Aleppo is now almost certainly lost to the rebels, and if SAA succeeds, this will free up their men for further offensives.

Even the Al-Assad neighborhoods were taken back. The 1070 projects which were taken back are a made up of dozens of well fortified concrete buildings which now have a comfortable buffer zone. The farmers with pitchforks threw everything they had into this offensive and failed a second time. They are running out of fighters and because of it are having to pull fighters from other towns but to no avail. The Syrian army and its allies are well fortified, experienced, and have full fire support that they can employ from areas they control. It looks like the farmers in Aleppo will fall, I don't see them being able to hold out for more then a year.

As per some reports there was a renewed attack on SAA by ISIS in Deir Ezor area.

Result: Failed attack by ISIS, successful defense by the SAA, 15 ISIS terrorists killed.

Deir Ezor is a quagmire for Isis, every time they attack they die.

 

[Broccoli]

Why are they trying to take Deir Ezor? Doesn't seem to very important place as it's too small to host large enough force what could assault their lines.

 

[500]

Every single gain by terrorists in western Aleppo has been reversed. Hundreds of Nusra/allies turned into fertilizer for nothing.

Hundreds of sectarian Khamenai terrorists were turned to fertilizer as well. Meanwhile Turkey backed rebels take hundreds of square kms from Assad ally ISIS:

Aleppo is 4.5 million 99% Sunni province. Khamenai idiots die in vain there.

 

[Serpentine]

Hundreds of sectarian Khamenai terrorists were turned to fertilizer as well. Meanwhile Turkey backed rebels take hundreds of square kms from Assad ally ISIS:

Just like previous failed offensive, kill ratio was overwhelmingly in favor of SAA and allies. Nearly 2000 rodents were killed in both of these failed offensives while nearly 300-350 SAA and allied forces were killed.

Meanwhile Turkey backed rebels take hundreds of square kms from Assad ally ISIS

It's quite funny. They are now fighting the same 'enemy' with whom they fought shoulder to shoulder in Menagh airbase and battles of N. Aleppo against SAA. Back then them and ISIS were bed fellas. They only turned on each other when ISIS kicked their arses for more land and money. After all, Joulani is bastard child of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, one of his own creations. Now Nusra (and all these so called Turkish-backed groups) are allied together against ISIS. That's the biggest joke here. Baghdadi sent Joulani to Syria to establish AQ version of Syria, then Joulani got in bed with groups like FSA, Zanki, Ahrar and other terrorists, and fought against ISIS.

That's why all of these scums are the same rubbish with different colors.

 

[500]

Just like previous failed offensive, kill ratio was overwhelmingly in favor of SAA and allies. Nearly 2000 rodents were killed in both of these failed offensives while nearly 300-350 SAA and allied forces were killed.

Quadrillion rebels. As for SAA u should add triple number of Khamenai and palestinian mercenaries.

It's quite funny. They are now fighting the same 'enemy' with whom they fought shoulder to shoulder in Menagh airbase and battles of N. Aleppo against SAA. Back then them and ISIS were bed fellas. They only turned on each other when ISIS kicked their arses for more land and money. After all, Joulani is bastard child of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, one of his own creations. Now Nusra (and all these so called Turkish-backed groups) are allied together against ISIS. That's the biggest joke here. Baghdadi sent Joulani to Syria to establish AQ version of Syria, then Joulani got in bed with groups like FSA, Zanki, Ahrar and other terrorists, and fought against ISIS.

That's why all of these scums are the same rubbish with different colors.

I've answered that Menagh million times. There were no any Iraqis there, but couple dozen Chechens from JMA group. Once ISIS started attacking rebels JMA left ISIS.

For 2 years ISIS did not attack Assad forces which were encircling Aleppo, although such a long flank was very vulnerable, effectively serving as buffer for Assad.

 

[500]

Assad/Russia Tochka missiles killed 8 Kurds today in Afrin:

Turkey backed rebels continue rapid advance today and reach the outskirts of al-Bab:

Advance in past 5 days:

 

[Hindustani78]

Last Updated: Sunday, November 13, 2016 - 10:26
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world...-isis-attacks-in-aleppo-al-raqqa_1949226.html

Cairo: At least 15 fighters from the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), were killed on Saturday in two Islamic State (IS) attacks in Aleppo and al-Raqqa in Syria.

British NGO, Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), said that eight fighters from the Arab-Kurdish armed alliance were killed during an IS attack with explosives in Om al-Amd area on the northern outskirts of Aleppo, Efe news agency reported.

After the attack, clashes between both sides erupted in the area.

Another seven SDF fighters were killed during combats in the Khenez area, north of al-Raqqa, where IS jihadists launched a counter-attack after losing territory.

The SDF launched the 'Wrath of Euphrates' Operation last Sunday to expel IS from al-Raqqa, the remaining Jihadist bastion in Syria.

IANS

First Published: Sunday, November 13, 2016 - 10:26

 

[Hindustani78]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/fs...ab--.aspx?pageID=238&nID=106083&NewsCatID=352
Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters have launched a new phase in the Euphrates Shield Operation to liberate Aleppo’s northeastern district of al-Bab from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

The FSA fighters arrived within two kilometers (1.4 miles) of al-Bab late on Nov. 12, state-run Anadolu Agency reported on Nov. 13, citing local correspondents at the scene.

FSA forces also took control of six villages - Hazvan, Susyan, Aldana, Kiyran, Uglan and Avlan , and other residential areas from ISIL by 2:00 a.m. local time (11:00 a.m. GMT) on Nov. 13, coming close to ISIL-controlled Al-Bab.

Two Turkish specialized sergeants and four FSA fighters were wounded after ISIL militants launched howitzer fire on the troops nearing al-Bab, Doğan News Agency reported. The wounded fighters were transported to Kilis State Hospital in Turkey’s south.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Syrian rebels backed by Turkish forces were two kilometers away from al-Bab and were targeting the city with artillery fire and air strikes but it had no immediate word on casualties.

“Opposition factions backed by Turkish troops are two kilometers north and northwest of the town of al-Bab,” said Rami Abdel Rahman, director of the Britain-based Observatory, AFP reported.

Al-Bab, about 30 kilometers (20 miles) south of the Turkish border, has been a key target for Ankara and its Syrian rebel allies since its campaign began on Aug. 24.

“This progress is a continuation of the campaign that began with the capture of Jarablus and has seen the jihadists expelled from an area of 2,500 square kilometers along the border with Turkey,” Abdel Rahman said.
Almost 1,600 square kilometers (617 square miles) of land in northern Syria have been cleared of ISIL militants as part of the Euphrates Shield Operation, which was launched on Aug. 24, a Turkish military statement said. Nov. 13 marked the 82nd day of the operation.

FSA fighters recently took control of five villages in Mare, northwest of al-Bab, and Manbij, east of al-Bab, Anadolu Agency reported.

 

[Tsilihin]

Why are they trying to take Deir Ezor? Doesn't seem to very important place as it's too small to host large enough force what could assault their lines.

That place is gate for heaven but now has a lack of virgins and is too important moment for every terrorist rat.... to die !!

 

[Madali]

A translation from an Arabic article, found on Reddit, regarding explanation for failed rebel attacks from their own perspective,

The publishers of the article, Eldorar Alshamia, say they spoke with several sources inside Jaysh al-Fath and Fatah Halab asking why the offensive was not successful.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivi...hy_the_rebel_offensive_failed_translation_in/


Reason #1: The regime and pro-regime militias figured out rebel tactics

A lieutenant colonel (note: probably SAA defector) in Fatah Halab, who asked to not be named, says that the pro-regime militias has figured out the rebel tactics from previous battles and were able to better prepare for them. The rebels would use SVBIEDs to shock the first defensive lines, along with artillery and rocket attacks. This would be followed up with strong infantrymen known as "inghimasis." So the pro-regime militias emptied their first defensive lines, determined where the rebels were attacking from, and directed the air strikes there, which would hit the rebels and allow the pro-regime militias to reclaim the territory.

The source said the rebels did not prepare a backup force able to continue the attacks after having controlled the first locations. Once the main attacking force stopped, it allowed the pro-regime militias to counter-attack, which was disastrous for the rebels. The rebels are always better off attacking than defending, because defending an area for an extended period of time is prohibitively expensive in terms of manpower, ammunition, and equipment. Because of the lack of "special" ammunition especially, defending is much harder than attacking, especially in open battles.

Reason #2: Russian air strikes

Russian air strikes had a "decisive" role in stopping 2 Jaysh al-Fath attacks on the 3000 apartments project. Abu Nazaar, a commander in Jaysh al-Fath, said that failing to capture the 3000 project was the turning point in the battle in favor of the regime. He said that the density of the air strikes was the main reason for this, and that cloudy weather the first 2 days had helped the rebels advance.

According to Fatah Halab's count, there were 400 Russian air strikes on al-Assad suburb and Minyan.

Reason #3: Rebel infighting; Zinki and Abu Amarah attacked Fastaqem

A member of Fatah Halab, who asked to not be named, said that the rebels inside the siege were also supposed to launch an offensive from Salahuddin towards Ard as-Sabbagh. When Nour ad-Deen az-Zinki Movement and Abu Amarah Brigades attacked Fastaqem Kama Umirt Union, it caused this attack to be cancelled.

Conclusion

The offensive wasn't a total failure, because the pro-regime forces had 370 KIA and 500 wounded. But, it didn't meet any of its military objectives. Breaking the siege will now require a new round of fighting, which will certainly take into account the lessons from this round.

 

[Madali]

Party at Al-Bab, everyone's invited!!

http://www.*************/convkey/7249/bbnz5yhkgb89k7azg.jpg?size_id=c

I don't know why media-fire is blocked. Anyway, see the map at this reddit,
https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivi...situation_in_n_aleppo_fsa_only_2km_away_from/

 

[500]

A translation from an Arabic article, found on Reddit, regarding explanation for failed rebel attacks from their own perspective,

The publishers of the article, Eldorar Alshamia, say they spoke with several sources inside Jaysh al-Fath and Fatah Halab asking why the offensive was not successful.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivi...hy_the_rebel_offensive_failed_translation_in/


Reason #1: The regime and pro-regime militias figured out rebel tactics

A lieutenant colonel (note: probably SAA defector) in Fatah Halab, who asked to not be named, says that the pro-regime militias has figured out the rebel tactics from previous battles and were able to better prepare for them. The rebels would use SVBIEDs to shock the first defensive lines, along with artillery and rocket attacks. This would be followed up with strong infantrymen known as "inghimasis." So the pro-regime militias emptied their first defensive lines, determined where the rebels were attacking from, and directed the air strikes there, which would hit the rebels and allow the pro-regime militias to reclaim the territory.

The source said the rebels did not prepare a backup force able to continue the attacks after having controlled the first locations. Once the main attacking force stopped, it allowed the pro-regime militias to counter-attack, which was disastrous for the rebels. The rebels are always better off attacking than defending, because defending an area for an extended period of time is prohibitively expensive in terms of manpower, ammunition, and equipment. Because of the lack of "special" ammunition especially, defending is much harder than attacking, especially in open battles.

Reason #2: Russian air strikes

Russian air strikes had a "decisive" role in stopping 2 Jaysh al-Fath attacks on the 3000 apartments project. Abu Nazaar, a commander in Jaysh al-Fath, said that failing to capture the 3000 project was the turning point in the battle in favor of the regime. He said that the density of the air strikes was the main reason for this, and that cloudy weather the first 2 days had helped the rebels advance.

According to Fatah Halab's count, there were 400 Russian air strikes on al-Assad suburb and Minyan.

Reason #3: Rebel infighting; Zinki and Abu Amarah attacked Fastaqem

A member of Fatah Halab, who asked to not be named, said that the rebels inside the siege were also supposed to launch an offensive from Salahuddin towards Ard as-Sabbagh. When Nour ad-Deen az-Zinki Movement and Abu Amarah Brigades attacked Fastaqem Kama Umirt Union, it caused this attack to be cancelled.

Conclusion

The offensive wasn't a total failure, because the pro-regime forces had 370 KIA and 500 wounded. But, it didn't meet any of its military objectives. Breaking the siege will now require a new round of fighting, which will certainly take into account the lessons from this round.

There is no mention of main reason: after first breach regime brought swarms of Khamenai mercenaries to Aleppo: 2000 Nijaba (thats their claim) + Hezbies + Zaynabiun and so on.