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Pakistan successfully tests Hatf (Vengeance) III - Ghaznavi SRBM.

Congratulations guys on the successful test.

Looks like the missile is named after the Ghazvanid Empire or it may just be named after the ghazni region of afghanistan?

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Its named after the Founder of the Ghaznavid Empire; Mahmud of Ghazni - a celebrated Hero in Pakistan owing to his Military Genius and his compassion for his slaves (rarity in those times) that saw them rising to the level of Governors & Generals and later even given birth to another Dynasty altogether ! :)
 
Congratulations guys on the successful test.

Looks like the missile is named after the Ghazvanid Empire or it may just be named after the ghazni region of afghanistan?

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Introduction
Mehmood محمود of Ghazni(Arabic/Persian/Urdu: محمود غزنوی) (November 2, 971 - April 30, 1030), also known as Yāmīn al-Dawlah Maḥmūd (in full: Yāmīn al-Dawlah Abd al-Qāṣim Maḥmūd Ibn Sebük Tegīn یامین الدولہ عبد القاسم محمود ابن سبکتگین) was the most prominent ruler of the TurkGhaznavid dynasty and ruled from 997 until his death in 1030. Mehmood Ghaznavi محمود غزنوی is one of the greatest conquerors the world has ever seen. He was one of the very few leaders who were never defeated in a battle field, He was a brave man and use to take part in all the battles his forces fought. Mehmood محمود turned the former provincial city of Ghazni غزنی (now inAfghanistan افغانستان) into the wealthy capital of an extensive empire which extended from Central Asia (وسطی ایشیا) Afghanistan (افغانستان) into most of Iran(ایران) as well as Pakistan (پاکستان) and regions of North-West Sub-Continent. He was also the first ruler to carry the title Sultan ( (سلطان("authority"), signifying the extent of his power, though preserving the ideological link to thesuzerainty of the Caliph.


Military campaigns In 994, Mehmood محمود joined his fatherSebüktigin سبکتگین in the capture of Khorasanخراسان from the rebel Faiq in aid of the SamanidEmir, Nuh II. During this period the Samanid state became highly unstable, with shifting internal political tides as various factions vied for control, the chief among them being Abu'l-Qasim Simjuri, Fa'iq, Abu Ali, the General Behtuzun as well as the neighbouring Buyids and Qarakhanids.
Consolidation of rule Sultan Mehmood's محمود غزنوی سلطان first campaign was against theQarakhanid Empire, which controlled the northern portion of his Empire. After his defeat, he enlisted the alliance of the Seljuk Turks in southern Soghdia andKhwarazm خوارزم who aided him in securing the north by diplomacy (998). In 999 'Abd al-Malik IIعبدالمالک ثانی of the Samanids engaged in hostilities with Mehmood محمود over Khorasan حراسان after political alliances shifted under a new Samanid Emir. These forces were defeated when the Qarakhanids under Nasr Khan invaded them from the north. Mehmoodمحمود then solicited an alliance which was cemented by his marriage to Nasr Khan's daughter. He already had relationships with the leadership in Balkh بلخ through marriage. It's local Emir Abu Nasr Mohammad ابوناصرمحمّد, offered his services to the Sultan and his daughter to Mehmood's محمود son, Muhammad محمّد. Image of Mehmood محمود in his court where noblemen and noblewomen convened. After Nasr's death Mehmood محمود brought Balkh بلخ under his leadership. This alliance greatly helped him during his expeditions into Northern sub-continent.

The Multan and Hindu Shahi strugglesMehmood's محمود first campaign to the south was against the Ismaili Fatimid Kingdom at Multan in a bid to curry political favour and recognition with theAbbassid Caliphate خلافت عبّاسیہ, he engaged with the Fatimids elsewhere. At this point, Raja Jayapala of the Hindu Shahi Dynasty in (Lahore and Kashmir) attempted to gain revenge for an earlier military defeat at the hands of Mehmood's محمود father, who had controlled Ghazni غزنی in the late 980s and had cost Jayapala extensive territory. His son Anandapala succeeded him and continued the struggle to avenge his father's suicide. He assembled a powerful confederacy which faced an unfortunate defeat as his elephant turned back from the battle in a crucial moment, turning the tide into Mehmood's محمود favour once more at Lahore in 1008 bringing Mehmood محمود into control of the Hindu Shahi dominions of Updhanpura. There is considerable evidence from writings of Al-Biruni البیرونی, Soghidan , Uyghur and Manichean texts that theBuddhists, Hindus and Jains were accepted as People of the Book and references to Buddha as Burxan or as a prophet can be found. After the initial destruction and pillage, Buddhists, Jains and Hindus were granted protected subject status as Dhimmis (ذمّی) . By that time, however, most of the centers of Buddhist and Hindu learning were already destroyed.

Ghaznavid campaigns in the Subcontinent Though he was interested in extending his empire toward Central Asia, the maneuverings of the Hindu rulers of Punjab forced him to invade South Asia, (Although, it is an existing perception of the historians that Mehmood محمود didn't have any interest to rule Sub-continent, Mehmood محمود had respect for other religions. A large number of Hindus lived in Ghazni, and they enjoyed religious freedom. One of his commanders named Tilak was a Hindu. A number of soldiers in his army were also Hindus. Mehmood محمود attacked the Hindu Temples in India because of political and not religious reasons). After the defeat of the Rajput Confederacy, He deciding to teach them all a lesson for combining against him, he came to South Asia seventeen times and went back to Ghazni every time with a great victory. He fought against the strong forces of Jaipal, Annadpal, Tarnochalpal, Kramta and the joint forces of Hindu Rajas and Maharajas but all of them were forced to flee away from the battlefield due to Mehmood's محمود war strategy as a general. After the conquest of Multan and Lahore, Mehmood محمود made Punjab a part of his empire in 1021.

Unlike other great conquerors like Alexander and Chengez Khan, Mehmood محمود did not leave the areas conquered to the mercy of his soldiers. After becoming the first Muslim ruler to conquer Northern Punjab, he consolidated his rule in the area and established his provincial headquarters at Lahore. He established law and order in the areas that he ruled, giving special attention to the people he ruled. The department of police and post were efficient. His judicial system was very good as everybody was equal before the law and justice was the order of the day.

Patron of the Arts and PoetryMehmood محمود was also a great patron of learning. His court was full of scholars including giants like Firdosi the poet, Behqi the historian and Al-Biruni the versatile scholar. It is said that he used to spend four hundred thousand golden Dinars on scholars. He invited the scholars from all over the world and was thus known as an abductor of scholars. Under Mehmood محمود, Ghazni became one of the most important and beautiful cities of the Islamic world. It was the city of mosques, madrasas and libraries. He also established a Museum in Ghazni. During his rule, Lahore also became a great center of learning and culture. Lahore was called 'Small Ghazni'. Saad Salman, a poet of those times, has written about the academic and cultural life of Lahore.





Mehmood محمود was also a deeply religious man. He himself wrote a book on Fiqh. Monument of Ferdowsi, whose work along with other artisans and poets, was promoted by Mehmood محمود. After 30 years of hard work, the notable poet Ferdowsi went to Ghazni and presented theShahnameh to Mehmood محمود. He sent the amount to Ferdowsi’s village, but when the messengers reached his house, they found that Ferdowsi had died a few hours earlier. The gift was then given to his daughter, since his son had already died at the age of 37. Later Mehmood محمود ordered the money be used for repairing an inn in the way from Merv to Tus, named “Robat Chaheh” so that it may remain in remembrance of the poet. This inn now lies in ruins, but still exists.

Political challenges and his death The last four years of Mehmood's محمود life were spent contending with the influx ofOghuz Turkic horse tribes from Central Asia, the Buyid Dynasty and rebellions bySeljuqs. Initially the Seljuks were repulsed by Mehmood محمود and retired to Khwarezmbut Togrül and Çagrı led them to captureMerv and Nishapur (1028-1029). Later they repeatedly raided and traded territory with his successors across Khorasan and Balkhand even sacked Ghazni in 1037. In 1039 at the Battle of Dandanaqan, they decisively defeated Mehmood's محمود grandson, Mas'ud I resulting in Mas'ud abandoning most of his western territories to the Seljuks.



Sultan Mehmood محمود died on April 30, 1030. His mausoleum is located at Ghazni in modern Afghanistan
@Kaan we named this missile after this man
 
Lollipops have their own strategic place in wars, you don't always need a hammer to squat a fly.

Pakistan has successfully tested Hatf 3 Missile

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@AUz @Umair Nawaz @fatman17
#Pakistan successfully test fires Hataf 3 Ghaznavi, nuclear missile, range aprox 280 km" via
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for God sake NDC plz give us something 'big' to cheer ..... har baar lollipops .... :angry:
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for God sake NDC plz give us something 'big' to cheer ..... har baar lollipops .... :angry:

If there is a lot of information, then what are you asking here? go absorb that info.

I read that in PDF and various other forums.There is a lot of information out there in web,Whats the big deal??
 
Standing upright, I can punch your face (just giving an example to convey my point) but not your feet, does that in anyway affects my fighting capability? or makes my punch less lethal?

True however it is apparent now that no new missiles with extended range are developed in this moment in time. Considering how fast our missile program really was, it is sad that our most advance missile has a range of only 2500 Kms which does not even cover the whole of India.
 
Do you understand the difference in "TEST" launch Vs "TRAINING" launch?

Red colour is for some reason, first being to identify the "test warhead" and second to help track and locate the warhead during flight/after impact.

Strange, don't know why Pakistan keep testing same old missiles testing again again despite very few kilometers, I think, something wrong on malfuction issues so they test it to just make sure work effectively AND India move forward fast to develop new testing and experiments.

Why RED paint on the top of the missile head? It make look very silly.

Hattaf

How do one pronounce Hatf? Which remains silent, "t" or "f"?

NO! you were only trolling, and your response starting from "Kid" proves that. Where you found that lot of info, there is tons of inof regarding there "current status" too, which is ZILCH, NADA, NONE, NIL, NO such missiles exist.

Kid i was asking about the current status and not the specs of the missile
 
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NO! you were only trolling, and your response starting from "Kid" proves that. Where you found that lot of info, there is tons of inof regarding there "current status" too, which is ZILCH, NADA, NONE, NIL, NO such missiles exist.
Pakistanis boast a lot about there secret "nuclear submarine project" lol or how Mysharraf released funds for devlopment of nuclear reactor ans how NESCOM will devlop it in 3 to 4 years thats why i asked maybe who knows Pakistan is working on underground lab of PAC kamara for Taimur missile.

Taimur missile may or may not exist but as one of your Senior think tank said that Shaheen 3 will be tested soon.
 
Standing upright, I can punch your face (just giving an example to convey my point) but not your feet, does that in anyway affects my fighting capability? or makes my punch less lethal?

Your example is invalid in this case. Let me tell you how, India is not a person, its a country, a big one. What do you think will happen once India decides to move its assets far away into the south which are beyond the range of any Pakistani missile.

If your example is to go by, why do you think countries need to develop missiles with extended range? By this very same example then ghuari 1 and shaheen 1 would had been sufficient since they could too punch the face?

The whole point is extending the range of Pakistani missiles specially since they have tested a two stage motor upto 2500 kms should not be a big deal, and while keeping it under the ICBM range not to raise too many eyebrows, the range should had been extended close to that figure, perhaps even for an SLV project.

Too date we do not have an SLV project and that my good friend has nothing to do with punching any one anywhere.
 
Pakistan Tests Short-Range Ballistic Missile

Apr. 22, 2014 - 03:21PM | By USMAN ANSARI |


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Pakistan continued to boost its deterrence capabilities Tuesday with a test of the Ghaznavi short-range, nuclear-capable ballistic missile. Here, an earlier test of the missile is conducted in 2010. (Agence France-Presse)

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan on Tuesday conducted a successful test launch of its Hatf III/Vengeance III Ghaznavi short-range ballistic missile as it continues to strengthen its deterrent capabilities against archrival India.

A statement by the Pakistan military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) stated that a “successful training launch” had been carried out of the 290-kilometer-range Ghaznavi, which is capable of carrying conventional and nuclear warheads.

Ghaznavi is a solid-fueled, single-stage missile possibly deriving some of its technology from the Chinese M-11/CSS-7.

A missile test had been expected since last week by analysts.

Though ISPT did not state the location of Tuesday’s test, analysts said it was most likely conducted at the Sonmiani Ranges.

According to the ISPR statement, “The successful launch concluded the Field Training Exercise of Strategic Missile Group of Army Strategic Forces Command.”

It also stated the test launch had been witnessed by a number of military and civilian officials, including Gen. Rashad Mahmood, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee; Lt. Gen. Zubair Mahmood Hayat, director of the General Strategic Plans Division; Lt. Gen. Obaid Ullah Khan, commander of Army Strategic Forces Command; and the chairman of the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM), Muhammad Irfan Burney.

NESCOM is responsible for the design and production of a number of weapon and defense systems, including missiles.

Mahmood “expressed his satisfaction over the training goals achieved during the exercise and expected that the officers and men entrusted with the task of deterring aggression would continue to maintain professional excellence.”

Brian Cloughley, a former Australian defense attache to Islamabad, said the launch is a “routine test,” but an indication of continued preparation for a conventional war.

“The ongoing concentration on short-range and battlefield missile systems is interesting, because it shows that [Pakistan’s] Army continues to prepare for the land battle, and obviously believes that the Indians have not in any way modified the short, sharp-thrust policy, the so-called ‘Cold Start’ concept,” he said.

Similarly, Mansoor Ahmed, from Quaid-e-Azam University’s Department of Defence and Strategic Studies, who specializes in Pakistan’s national deterrent and delivery program, said the test was a “routine training exercise designed to test operational readiness, procedures and integration of this short-range ballistic missile system” under the Armed Forces Strategic Command.

“This test underscores Pakistan’s continued emphasis on achieving greater effectiveness of counterforce targeting potential of its strategic forces as part of the country’s operational-level strategic capability,” he added.

The ongoing development and testing of Pakistan’s short-range ballistic missile arsenal is partially to match India’s own efforts in this area, Ahmed said.

“Ghaznavi is Pakistan’s response to India’s ongoing R&D and improvement of short-range ballistic missile systems such as Prithvi [undergoing flight tests to improve its operational effectiveness], Prahaar and Pragati,” he said.

“Ghaznavi’s test appears to incorporate improved guidance, control and accuracy parameters in real-time conditions,” Ahmed said.

However, Pakistan has a range of short-range missile systems, some with overlapping capabilities. In the case of Ghaznavi, though, Ahmed rates it as a flexible weapon system.

“Ghaznavi is aimed at improving Pakistan’s readiness to deal with all kinds of counterforce attacks at the theater level during a crisis,” he said.

“It is a dual-use system that can carry nuclear and conventional warheads, and would be a potent weapon to deter India from engaging in proactive military operations/Cold Start strategy below Pakistan’s nuclear thresholds,” he added.

Cloughley pointed out an obvious drawback to the use of Ghaznavi.

“Nuclear [surface-to-surface missiles] are designed specifically to destroy large armored formations, but of course, there would be dreadful collateral damage,” he said. ■

Email: uansari@defensenews.com.
 
I don't know if this is accurate or not, but it's from the BBC.

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This is one area which has always fascinated me. Remember the missile from iron man taking out an entire mountain... An operational warhead of similar sort with multiple launch platforms would be an interesting proposition.
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Shaheens range is 2500 and can be easily increased to 3000 km official statement ..

The one thing all the wishful thinkers are missing here is whether you need the range to meet your targeting requirements.
What are Pakistan's targeting requirements for strategic strike within India? Does a weapon with a range of 2000km cover all these targets with ease?
If it does, then why would Pakistan want more range?
 

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