India irked as China gets Pakistan's strategic Gwadar port

[Spring Onion]

The army has time and time again killed or captured scores of Chechen militants.

I don't even see what a semi autonomous Russian republic has to do with Gwadar or CARs. Your minds are adrift.

In the past some of our commentators were pointing fingers at KGB for hand in unrest in Balochistan but later few years back and ex-KGB head spilled the beans and exposed how a big super power was involved Not KGB.

Their only worry was USA and now since China is in fold and will be in control i dont see any reason for Russians to worry.


If anyone is worried that is India hence Indians will come up with many excuses to drag Russia into conflict and jump on its shoulders.

Actually we should support China in this endeavor. If they are successful then more countries will invest in Pakistan.... it will probably embolden Indian companies to invest there. Regarding China creating a naval base, will it be accepted by Pakistan.

In the start after creation of Pakistan we were about to inter a deal with USSR but then USA hijacked the idea of this alliance.


A chinese Naval base there is NOT a bad idea.

 

[silent poison]

"In fact, China is not so powerful, nor is India so weak, so as to make it possible that the transfer of a mere civil project can "encircle" India,"

 

[OrionHunter]

Why do our Indian 'strategists' and commentators always get 'irked' at anything Pakistan or China does? We are mature enough militarily and diplomatically to stand on our own. This so called Chinese threat called the 'string of pearls' to hem in India is plain balderdash!

It is worth reflecting on where the “string of pearls” concept comes from. Not from China and, although it is a fixation in some New Delhi policy circles, it is not an Indian strategic concept either. It appeared first in 2005 in the report, 'Energy Futures in Asia' prepared for the US Secretary of Defence by a Washington-based consultancy, Booz Allen Hamilton. The United States over the past decade has been encouraging India to beef up its naval efforts in the Indian Ocean, as it finds its naval assets increasingly overstretched and sees India as a regional balance against China.

So perhaps the US is encouraging India’s paranoia, as part of its efforts to seek burden-sharing partners. In the past few years, India has deepened security and diplomatic co-operation with the Seychelles, South Africa, Madagascar and Mozambique. India’s Maritime Doctrine, published in 2004, has shaped the country’s policy in the Indian Ocean. It also has given particular focus to “choke points” at entrances to the ocean, such as the Mozambique Channel. According to the doctrine, “control of the choke points could be useful as a bargaining chip in the international power game, where the currency of military power remains a stark reality.

To watch shipping movements along the Mozambique Channel “choke point”, India opened its second military listening post on foreign soil in 2007 in northern Madagascar. India has also been in discussions with the Mauritian government about a lease of the Agalega Islands which would officially serve as a high-end tourist resort but could provide an airstrip to serve Indian surveillance aircraft.

In August 2009, as part of this strategy, India boosted de-fence co-operation with the Maldives by agreeing to set up a network of 26 radars across the islands as well as an air station to conduct surveillance flights over the Mal-dives exclusive economic zone. Indian naval planners assume that the US military presence on Diego Garcia and the French naval base on La Réunion, buttress their efforts. Since 2001, India has conducted annual joint naval exercises with the French.

So although there is competition, there is no sign that the Chinese are planning any American or French-style bases for a “string of pearls” of Chinese naval facilities stretching from southern China across the Indian Ocean. Their strategy appears benign, seeking agreements allowing access to facilities for re-supply. The United States, with its base in Diego Garcia, France and India will remain the major naval powers in the Indian Ocean for the foreseeable future.

India should therefore not be alarmed that the Chinese seek re-supply naval facilities in the Seychelles and Gwadar. This paranoia of the Chinese trying to intimidate India by establishing a 'String of Pearls' needs to end. Preventing disruption of sea lanes for international shipping in the Indian Ocean and Arabian Sea is vital for all our economies.

Cheers!

 

[garibnawaz]

All this India irked stuff is getting a bit too rich for my blood -- enough hysterics from the Indian, time to play grown up -- Use Gwadar, no one is stopping you from using Gwadar as well, - Pakistan is no Nepal or Bangladesh, - anyway, hope Indian will realize that it's not 2001, time for shenanigans is past - on the other hand this just may be more Indian media stuff and not official positions

Its not hysterics. Its politics.

India has no reason to get irked (since they themselves are parked at Chabahar in Iran), however they will still protest cause its politics.

 

[Paan Singh]

This is just an article written by some journalist.I dont see any comment from indian authority regarding gwadar.
Even in past,never seen.Its upto pakistan to how use its territory and we have chabahar port.
so nthng to worry

 

[Bobby]

Dont worry India wont irk even if Pakistan hand over Islamabad also....

 

[Paan Singh]

India Friday on said there was no need to "overreact" to issues like Pakistan transferring the management of the strategic Gwadar port from Singapore to China.

"I don't think we should overreact to everything that Pakistan does or everything that China is involved in. We need to take these matters in our stride and in the normal course," external affairs minister Salman Khurshid said in New Delhi.

"There are some things which have pure, simple and commercial dimensions and some things which have strategic dimensions. But these are things which one should consider in the normal course when we know exactly what we are dealing with," he said.

He added: "There is a delicate balance in the entire region and I think none of us should be doing something which will upset that balance."

Pakistan has decided to hand over the management control of the strategic Gwadar port to a Chinese company. The deep-sea port is on the Arabian Sea at Gwadar in Balochistan province of Pakistan.

To a retired Pakistani general's comment on the Kargil conflict, Khurshid said: "I don't want to be in constant conversation with retired Pakistani generals. They have their own way of settling scores among themselves and sometimes with India."

"The defence minister also said we should not do anything in haste. Let's look at things as they shape. Let's wait for things to normalise in due course," he said.

 

[RazPaK]

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As If we give a **** to what Russians say. We already humiliated them in Afghanistan.

India Friday on said there was no need to "overreact" to issues like Pakistan transferring the management of the strategic Gwadar port from Singapore to China.

"I don't think we should overreact to everything that Pakistan does or everything that China is involved in. We need to take these matters in our stride and in the normal course," external affairs minister Salman Khurshid said in New Delhi.

"There are some things which have pure, simple and commercial dimensions and some things which have strategic dimensions. But these are things which one should consider in the normal course when we know exactly what we are dealing with," he said.

He added: "There is a delicate balance in the entire region and I think none of us should be doing something which will upset that balance."

Pakistan has decided to hand over the management control of the strategic Gwadar port to a Chinese company. The deep-sea port is on the Arabian Sea at Gwadar in Balochistan province of Pakistan.

To a retired Pakistani general's comment on the Kargil conflict, Khurshid said: "I don't want to be in constant conversation with retired Pakistani generals. They have their own way of settling scores among themselves and sometimes with India."

"The defence minister also said we should not do anything in haste. Let's look at things as they shape. Let's wait for things to normalise in due course," he said.

Overreact toh ek baat hain, magar reaction toh hain.

 

[for truth]

As If we give a **** to what Russians say. We already humiliated them in Afghanistan.

you have been equally humiliated at world stage. And no one either gives a Fvck to what you say.

 

[RazPaK]

you have been equally humiliated at world stage. And no one either gives a Fvck to what you say.

And thus you are here on a Pakistani forum. Bravo. Bravo.

 

[for truth]

And thus you are here on a Pakistani forum. Bravo. Bravo.

and why is that a problem for you? do i need you permission to be on PDF?

 

[RazPaK]

and why is that a problem for you? do i need you permission to be on PDF?

Your presence here negates your argument. But whatever makes the sun rise for you.

 

[Paan Singh]

Overreact toh ek baat hain, magar reaction toh hain.

Us se question pucha to usne jawab diya

its normal and its been in news from last 3-4 years that gwadar will be taken by china so how many reactions you saw till now

 

[Bobby]

And thus you are here on a Pakistani forum. Bravo. Bravo.

And thats why you are in USA....Bravo

 

[RazPaK]

Us se question pucha to usne jawab diya

its normal and its been in news from last 3-4 years that gwadar will be taken by china so how many reactions you saw till now

From you Indians?

Haha.

Whenever there is a problem in your country, we are mentioned first.