Pakistan's Special Operations Forces: SSG | SSGN | SSW | SOW | SOG

Rana123 said:

Today i read article in which there was world top 10 forces and SSG name was there but Indian force was name was not there
i was happy to see Pakistan SSG was under 10

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Now we are doomed

balixd said:

Khyber One --

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SSW on the left?

Irfan Baloch said:

Indian special forces are very resourceful, very up to date and they get to train with the best and have unrestricted access to technology and funds which we can only dream about. only 60 years ago they were our brothers so dont discount them too much.


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its not abt weaponry or access to tech or resources. Its more life how u used yr weapons in yr tactics. In the LIC situations its all abt that. Its something yr friend from the SSG also tried to explain and called it 4th generation warfare!

A force may have the best of the weapons or tech the world would know. But if it doesnt know how to use them in tactics of such operations its failed. USA in Iraq is a clear example. Specially in early days where they failed to tackle almost everything after capturing Baghdad. And this all comes with experience and a diverse and up to date knowledge of area and its people.

Indian MARCOS, NSA or any other lack in this field decisively against any leading force in the planet. Because this all mentioned above comes from experience and in that SSG is on per with Israelis or Americans or the English. Indians certainly are no where in the picture. If u dont belive me then check how poorly they tacked the dec 5 attacks. 4 in 11 hrs. with Resistance finishing with a kill ratio of 3 or 4:11!

Their fighting capability is still very poor (comparing their SF performance from 2008's Mumbai to dec 2014) compared with high standards of SSG in this new 4th gen warfare.

nomi007 said:

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SSW not SSG.

Umair Nawaz said:

its not abt weaponry or access to tech or resources. Its more life how u used yr weapons in yr tactics. In the LIC situations its all abt that. Its something yr friend from the SSG also tried to explain and called it 4th generation warfare!

A force may have the best of the weapons or tech the world would know. But if it doesnt know how to use them in tactics of such operations its failed. USA in Iraq is a clear example. Specially in early days where they failed to tackle almost everything after capturing Baghdad. And this all comes with experience and a diverse and up to date knowledge of area and its people.

Indian MARCOS, NSA or any other lack in this field decisively against any leading force in the planet. Because this all mentioned above comes from experience and in that SSG is on per with Israelis or Americans or the English. Indians certainly are no where in the picture. If u dont belive me then check how poorly they tacked the dec 5 attacks. 4 in 11 hrs. with Resistance finishing with a kill ratio of 3 or 4:11!

Their fighting capability is still very poor (comparing their SF performance from 2008's Mumbai to dec 2014) compared with high standards of SSG in this new 4th gen warfare.


SSW not SSG.

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I dont post in this thread intentionally but when something as stupid as this guy comes again and again then i cant help it.

Lets talk about experience.The Indian SF started their successful operations from 65 when they destroyed PA batteries crossing the LOC in Kashmir to the famous air drop near Dacca.Till then they were used in conventional operations until Operation Bluestar where they faced CI for the first time which dates back to 1984.When your SF had no idea about CI ops.

Indian SF then formed NSG (this so called expert calls NSG a NSA) and did a few more CI operations in Punjab.

In late 1987 the Army and Navy SF were sent to Sri Lanka where they had a good run and developed new techniques and were the most feared by LTTE.Still in the time doing more operations and gaining more experience than your SSG with all due respect.

Indian Peace Keeping Force returned but the Indian SF had no rest as the Kashmir conflict waited.Camps inside deep forests needed to be cleared and the SF used the same tactics learned in Sri Lanka to grab a upper hand.Since then the SF has been involved in Kashmir so much so that it is burdened with ops in Kashmir.

In the Northeast where we are active since 1960 the SF had to counter guerilla warriors which lead to the formation of the best school in jungle warfare named CIJWS.

Then came the attack on a Gujrat temple and 26/11 among various other rescue operation which the NSG handled.

Marcos has been active in the Gulf of Aden and Kashmir plus they were active in Maldives and Sri Lanka.

So now i ask..how are we inexperienced?

Just because you are fighting the taliban for 7 odd years makes you no hero.We have been more active than you in the past and we still are active in Kashmir and North East.

Our SF trains with everyone from the Israelis to SEALs to GSG9 and everyone respects them.If you dont trust me then youtube is your buddy.

And guys lastly..i want to say something indirectly...our SF have been pinned down once or twice in our glorious history...but our men dont surrender.

Horus said:

SSW on the left?

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Why would you say so???
Both are SSG, clearence op in the area, and then set up a new OP

COLDHEARTED AVIATOR said:

I dont post in this thread intentionally but when something as stupid as this guy comes again and again then i cant help it.

Lets talk about experience.The Indian SF started their successful operations from 65 when they destroyed PA batteries crossing the LOC in Kashmir to the famous air drop near Dacca.Till then they were used in conventional operations until Operation Bluestar where they faced CI for the first time which dates back to 1984.When your SF had no idea about CI ops.
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lol u indian cartoon. it was better if u continued yr tradition of not posting in such threads whom u still lack the knowledge, specially tactical one! We are talking abt LIC situations which stands for Low Intensity Conflicts where an enemy comes up suddenly and unexpectedly. When yr forces were fighting the CI ops we had already fought them in East Pak in 71 and after just 6 years we were instrumental to make a best fighting force that took out soviats and were involved in low intensity conflicts in and out of our country since 1977 to 1989.

What we are talking abt is the 4th generation warfare u dont have the experience and necessary know how of it viz a viz us. Yes u have done good job in patches and i give u credit for that but u cant realistically come in terms with us in that who have an almost non stop experience in this since 70s. Hint; read irfan baloch's interview with SSG officer for more info. Hope u got the point. Goodbye.

Umair Nawaz said:

lol u indian cartoon. it was better if u continued yr tradition of not posting in such threads whom u still lack the knowledge, specially tactical one! We are talking abt LIC situations which stands for Low Intensity Conflicts where an enemy comes up suddenly and unexpectedly. When yr forces were fighting the CI ops we had already fought them in East Pak in 71 and after just 6 years we were instrumental to make a best fighting force that took out soviats and were involved in low intensity conflicts in and out of our country since 1977 to 1989. So dont talk abt something u have little to now idea.

What we are talking abt is the 4th generation warfare u dont have the experience and necessary know how of it viz a viz us. Yes u have done good job in patches and i give u credit for that but u cant realistically come in terms with us in that who have an almost non stop experience in this since 70s. Hint; read irfan baloch's interview with SSG officer for more info. Hope u got the point. Goodbye.

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are you a brainless creature ?? what make you think that we don't have any experience in 4th gen warfare?? you 1st learn what is 4th gen warefare:
Fourth-generation warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you said you fight CT in East pakistan.. did you win that fight?? NO. you not only failed by you had shamelessly surrender. One last thing, you said you are fighting a 4th gen warfare.. for your kind information, you are fighting a CI in a conventional war by carpet bombing that area before putting boots on the ground. PA is even not allowed media in that area so that they can hide the civilian casualties. you are fighting with US help, without US Pakistan can't even think of winning that war. billions of $ worth of equipment are given by US as military aid to fight the war.
unlike pakistan india is fighting 4gen warfare alone against an enemy with full backing of pakistan.

zeeshanvita said:

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He's still holding his side arm n his finger is still on the triger, alert even though he is injured

Reichmarshal said:

He's still holding his side arm n his finger is still on the triger, alert even though he is injured

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That is the training my friend. they are always aware of the situation.

Horus said:

Two SSGs KIA in Peshawar. RIP

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They were not from SSG but AMC (medical corps) they embraced shahadat when talibitches attacked the auditorium where they were holding lessons on first aid.

Horus said:

Two SSGs KIA in Peshawar. RIP

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They were not from SSG but AMC (medical corps) they embraced shahadat when talibitches attacked the auditorium where they were holding lessons on first aid.

Green Arrow said:

Who is leading the SSG now, any idea ?

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Maj Gen Abid Rafiq.