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Calls in France for English to be ditched as E.U Language.


AFP/The Local · 27 Jun 2016, 15:27

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Some in France suggest it's time to end the dominance of English as the EU's working language, now that the UK has voted to leave the union.

French purists have never taken kindly to having English thrust upon them, and some have seized upon Brexit as a chance to rid themselves of Shakespeare's language -- at least at EU headquarters.

The shock of the decision across the Channel to break with the European Union had barely begun to sink in when two French politicians demanded that Britain, before shutting the door, take its language along with it.

"The English language no longer has any legitimacy in Brussels," tweeted the far-right mayor of the southern town of Beziers, Robert Menard.

The disdain for the English language appeared to cross all political divides, as the leader of the far-left Left Party, Jean-Luc Melenchon, tweeted: "English can no-longer be the third working language of the European parliament."
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Map highlighting the member states of the Commonwealth nations, with Queen Elizabeth as official head of state and secretary general the Baroness Scotland of Asthal.

Several tweeters asked Menard and Melenchon what the majority English speaking Irish would do, should English disappear.

Too bad, Menard implied, pointing out that Ireland's first language was officially Gaelic.

Though there are 24 'official languages' of the EU, the bloc's institutions use three 'working languages' to conduct everyday business - German, French and English. This is based on the fact that these are the three largest countries in the union.

Dave Keating, who runs the blog Brussels2Berlin, has written previously about the issue of whether France could oust English as an official language in the UK leaves the EU.

He says there is one big hitch.

“The 'three working language' rule has never been codified into law; so there would be no 'legal' basis on which France could challenge the predominance of English, since technically all 24 languages are equal.

And he says the French would find it difficult to oust English from its place as the main de facto EU working language.

"The forces that have made English so powerful are more cultural than governmental," writes Keating.

"Why do all these young civil servants coming from Eastern Europe speak English? Because they've been watching American television and movies their entire lives. It has little to do with the UK.

"It isn't only in Europe that English is the main means of inter-cultural communication. It is a global phenomenon. A Brexit isn't going to change that.

"So while it might seem a strange situation for a post-Brexit EU to continue using English as its main language, I can't see it going any other way.

"But, I imagine, that wouldn't stop the French from trying."

ALSO: Could France really oust English as official EU language?

Story continues below…


Nevertheless the European commissioner for Economy, Germany’s Günther Oettinger has already dismissed Melenchon’s call for English to be ditched as an official language.

Not least because of the fact that both Ireland and Malta are English speaking.

“We have a number of member states who speak English and English is the global language that we accept,” said Oettinger.

And the commissioner also suggested there may soon be another English speaking nation in the EU – Scotland.

http://www.thelocal.fr/20160627/french-want-english-ditched-as-eu-language


@waz , @Blue Marlin , @UKBengali , @Steve781 , @Hamartia Antidote ET al.
Good laugh.:rofl: seems some people still believe they can get rid of our language as the world's lingua franca/global language . It's not a coincidence. Lol. I know some despise the global dominance of Anglo Saxon on world affairs. :D
 
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There is Switzerland, where English is spoken widely and moreover English is lingua franca of business
 
Calls in France for English to be ditched as E.U Language.


AFP/The Local · 27 Jun 2016, 15:27

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Some in France suggest it's time to end the dominance of English as the EU's working language, now that the UK has voted to leave the union.

French purists have never taken kindly to having English thrust upon them, and some have seized upon Brexit as a chance to rid themselves of Shakespeare's language -- at least at EU headquarters.

The shock of the decision across the Channel to break with the European Union had barely begun to sink in when two French politicians demanded that Britain, before shutting the door, take its language along with it.

"The English language no longer has any legitimacy in Brussels," tweeted the far-right mayor of the southern town of Beziers, Robert Menard.

The disdain for the English language appeared to cross all political divides, as the leader of the far-left Left Party, Jean-Luc Melenchon, tweeted: "English can no-longer be the third working language of the European parliament."
250px-Commonwealth_of_Nations.svg.png

Map highlighting the member states of the Commonwealth nations, with Queen Elizabeth as official head of state and secretary general the Baroness Scotland of Asthal.

Several tweeters asked Menard and Melenchon what the majority English speaking Irish would do, should English disappear.

Too bad, Menard implied, pointing out that Ireland's first language was officially Gaelic.

Though there are 24 'official languages' of the EU, the bloc's institutions use three 'working languages' to conduct everyday business - German, French and English. This is based on the fact that these are the three largest countries in the union.

Dave Keating, who runs the blog Brussels2Berlin, has written previously about the issue of whether France could oust English as an official language in the UK leaves the EU.

He says there is one big hitch.

“The 'three working language' rule has never been codified into law; so there would be no 'legal' basis on which France could challenge the predominance of English, since technically all 24 languages are equal.

And he says the French would find it difficult to oust English from its place as the main de facto EU working language.

"The forces that have made English so powerful are more cultural than governmental," writes Keating.

"Why do all these young civil servants coming from Eastern Europe speak English? Because they've been watching American television and movies their entire lives. It has little to do with the UK.

"It isn't only in Europe that English is the main means of inter-cultural communication. It is a global phenomenon. A Brexit isn't going to change that.

"So while it might seem a strange situation for a post-Brexit EU to continue using English as its main language, I can't see it going any other way.

"But, I imagine, that wouldn't stop the French from trying."

ALSO: Could France really oust English as official EU language?

Story continues below…


Nevertheless the European commissioner for Economy, Germany’s Günther Oettinger has already dismissed Melenchon’s call for English to be ditched as an official language.

Not least because of the fact that both Ireland and Malta are English speaking.

“We have a number of member states who speak English and English is the global language that we accept,” said Oettinger.

And the commissioner also suggested there may soon be another English speaking nation in the EU – Scotland.

http://www.thelocal.fr/20160627/french-want-english-ditched-as-eu-language
@waz , @Blue Marlin , @UKBengali , @Steve781 , @Hamartia Antidote ET al. Good laugh.:rofl: seems some people still believe they can get rid if our language as the world's lingua franca. It's not a coincidence. Lol. I know some despise the global dominance of Anglo Saxon on world affairs. :D
english is an international language they cant just ditch it.
 
english is an international language they cant just ditch it.

They believe they can. Just like they believe they can dictate us. LMAO :lol:
I think calm should prevail in E. U capitals, anger and resentment will serve nobody. We all should all come together and negotiate the next step ahead. We are still part of Europe and we will always be. E. u countries should calm down and think straight. Reforms in this regard is of critical importance of the Union is to thrive. :)
 
Despite the language,the anglois leaving the EU is actually the BEST thing they could do for us.
The US's trojan horse is now out,nobody is going to ever defend the american interests,and we would stop to pay rebates (1st contributor with €1BN each years.) to those ungrateful that only want to benefit from everything the EU has to offer without wanting to contribute even by £1.
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@bobo6661 @flamer84 @MarkusS .

A favourite anecdote in France comes from when then prime minister Jacques Chirac forgot his microphone was on during a 1988 European summit, while fuming over Margaret Thatcher's demands for a budgetary rebate for Britain. (AGAIN.)

"What more does this housewife want from me? My balls on a platter?" fumed Chirac.

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Despite the language,the anglois leaving the EU is actually the BEST thing they could do for us.
The US's trojan horse is now out,nobody is going to ever defend the american interests,and we would stop to pay rebates (1st contributor with €1BN each years.) to those ungrateful that only want to benefit from everything the EU has to offer without wanting to contribute even by £1.
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@bobo6661 @flamer84 @MarkusS .

A favourite anecdote in France comes from when then prime minister Jacques Chirac forgot his microphone was on during a 1988 European summit, while fuming over Margaret Thatcher's demands for a budgetary rebate for Britain. (AGAIN.)

"What more does this housewife want from me? My balls on a platter?" fumed Chirac.


Keep fuming with anger, it only makes this even more funny. Lool
By the way we also contributed alot to the E. U
Plus, please help your government and stop using our language, you could start by writing in French on here, let's see how many replies you get. :lol: Huh.. ...funny enough I do speak French fluently though, so I might be the only non-French citizen here to reply in case you use your language. :D

Moreover, almost every power from China to the U s actually wanted us to remain in the E. u but our people decided otherwise. Everything depends on us not another country. Our European friends should respect that decision instead of whinning like bitches :disagree:
 
lol.. English is not the language of UK.. its preeminent International language..

Despite the language,the anglois leaving the EU is actually the BEST thing they could do for us.
The US's trojan horse is now out,nobody is going to ever defend the american interests,and we would stop to pay rebates (1st contributor with €1BN each years.) to those ungrateful that only want to benefit from everything the EU has to offer without wanting to contribute even by £1.
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@bobo6661 @flamer84 @MarkusS .

A favourite anecdote in France comes from when then prime minister Jacques Chirac forgot his microphone was on during a 1988 European summit, while fuming over Margaret Thatcher's demands for a budgetary rebate for Britain. (AGAIN.)

"What more does this housewife want from me? My balls on a platter?" fumed Chirac.

Ungrateful was the word used for De Gaulle for vetoing UK's entry ... without blood and sweat of british & americans and commonwealth countries, German would have been your language. :)
 
Ungrateful was the word used for De Gaulle for vetoing UK's entry ...

Because he knew that the UK would be defending their interests in the EEC and that they would be their trojan horse.
It's an european matter,not an american one.

without blood and sweat of british & americans and commonwealth countries, German would have been your language. :)

If there was not the channel,the UK would have suffered the same faith. And the soviets would have went til the cotentin to throw the germans in the sea anyway.


'Mon ami',you would be more credible if you didn't have french blood running in your veins...
 
Nothing but just old hate of France towards English language, and nothing going to happen.
How the EU members will communicate ? In French ? No body is going to learn French.


There is Switzerland, where English is spoken widely and moreover English is lingua franca of business

Switzerland has four national languages: French, German, Italian and Romansh. English, though not an official language, is often used to bridge the divides. German is spoken by about 64% of the population, French by about 23%, and Italian by about 8%. Romansh is spoken by less than 1% of the total population.
 
Because he knew that the UK would be defending their interests in the EEC and that they would be their trojan horse.
It's an european matter,not an american one.



If there was not the channel,the UK would have suffered the same faith. And the soviets would have went til the cotentin to throw the germans in the sea anyway.



'Mon ami',you would be more credible if you didn't have french blood running in your veins...
would have, should have, could have... its the same person that was war time general... was he not? how did he know UK is trojan horse, besides in cold war, soviets were on the other side and americans were protecting you... were you the trojan horse of soviets in EU?
 
Because he knew that the UK would be defending their interests in the EEC and that they would be their trojan horse.
It's an european matter,not an american one.



If there was not the channel,the UK would have suffered the same faith. And the soviets would have went til the cotentin to throw the germans in the sea anyway.



'Mon ami',you would be more credible if you didn't have french blood running in your veins...

You can't be using hypothetical reasons to justify Britain being the last country standing in Europe during WWII, it was because of our own military strength/power, capabilities and the Royal Air Force and Royal navy's world leading capabilities/power.
So you saying if this was the case then this and this will have happened are just theories. Lol it's like saying if there was no Russian Winter, Germany would have conquered and ruled Russia. Lol. Hypothesis indeed but not reality or what happened :)
Plus I'm British, well my dad is and i grew up here fully British . Though got some little French in me as well. :p: reason I'm calling for calm to prevail in both countries and Europe to stop acting like an angry mistress who just discovered her man was cheating on her? :cheesy:

would have, should have, could have... its the same person that was war time general... was he not? how did he know UK is trojan horse, besides in cold war, soviets were on the other side and americans were protecting you... were you the trojan horse of soviets in EU?

Lol I wonder bro.
My French brother got some very interesting funny logic as of late. using his logic, we can also say France has been Russia's Trojan horse in Europe :rofl:
 
What about EU member states Ireland and Malta, where English holds the status of an official language. Not to mention that English is today the international lingua franca.
 
You can't be using hypothetical reasons to justify Britain being the last country standing in Europe during WWII, it was because of our own military strength/power, capabilities and the Royal Air Force and Royal navy's world leading capabilities/power.
So you saying if this was the case then this and this will have happened are just theories. Lol it's like saying if there was no Russian Winter, Germany would have conquered and ruled Russia. Lol. Hypothesis indeed but not reality or what happened :)

We remember the british might,we remember the british expeditionary force....
They suffered a humiliating defeat in the early stages of WW2 and the BEF (British Expeditionary Force) fled from Dunkirk in fishing and pleasure craft leaving behind almost all of your weaponry. Yes,we lost,badly. But remember that if you were bordering us,you would have suffered the same faith.


Lol I wonder bro.
My French brother got some very interesting funny logic as of late. using his logic, we can also say France has been Russia's Trojan horse in Europe :rofl:

Because we were an independent nation. Not the puppet of anyone.

@Vergennes With all due respect, i tried it 7 years, but finally i give up...english pronunciation suits us Germans simply better.

Nobody is calling for anything. It's not because 2 politicians said something that it should be done. (An ultra far right and an ultra far left bolchevik wannabe...)
 
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