Zhuhai Air Show 2014 - Updates & Discussions

[cnleio]

I smell French fashion on "2014-ZhuHai Air Show"

China WS-2 MLRS

“卫士”系列多管火箭系统主要由火箭弹以及地面设备组成。火箭弹由引信、战斗部、固体火箭发动机和尾段等部分组成。地面设备包括射击指挥车、火箭发射车和装填运输车、高空气象探测雷达车.车型根据火箭系统类别划分而有所不同。（摄影：高瀚）

 

[cnleio]

French fashion on "2014-ZhuHai Air Show"


4X4 artillery scout car

Artillery command & communication vehicle

 

[cnleio]

French fashion on "2014-ZhuHai Air Show"

Artillery ballistic phased array radar vehicle

8x8 105mm assault gun

6x6 "枭龙" armored vehicle

 

[Irfan Baloch]

advanced miniature UK not capable of building her own ICBM and the less advanced China can. I think that says enough about how powerful the British are. No wonder some military brass told Thatcher that China isn't Argentina back in the 80s when she wanted to keep controlling HK after 97.

sir you have no clue. pleae dont make such ignorant posts.

BAE systems is developing rail guns for USA. its Challenger armor is used in American Abram tanks. its stealth drones are at par with American drones and you might not know. its R&D in robotics and nuclear science is light years ahead of China. its jet engines power the Typhoons china is still reliant on Russians at the moment.. this is just one of the few examples I can go on.

it doesnt need to develop something itself when its close ally has already done that for it. Americans are called cousins across the pond for a reason.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@cnleio are there other countries from Western Europe also participating or is it Chinese exclusive defence equipment show? sorry for asking because the early pages have so many images that it takes time to load and read something relevant

 

[cnleio]

@cnleio are there other countries from Western Europe also participating or is it Chinese exclusive defence equipment show? sorry for asking because the early pages have so many images that it takes time to load and read something relevant

Yes, Boeing / AirBus / Bell helicopter / Eurocopter / Agusta etc will attend the 2014 ZhuHai Air Show... U.S sent C-130 and C-17 to ZhuHai, Russian will send Su-27/Su-30, maybe Su-35 attend at 11.11

 

[Beast]

sir you have no clue. pleae dont make such ignorant posts.

BAE systems is developing rail guns for USA. its Challenger armor is used in American Abram tanks. its stealth drones are at par with American drones and you might not know. its R&D in robotics and nuclear science is light years ahead of China. its jet engines power the Typhoons china is still reliant on Russians at the moment.. this is just one of the few examples I can go on.

it doesnt need to develop something itself when its close ally has already done that for it. Americans are called cousins across the pond for a reason.

That is a weak arguement. UK is not well know in rocket science. It's true that they want to concentrate their limited resources on other area of expertise like aeronautic engine that they leave the rocket science to American.

I doubt even if you pour huge money and resources to UK, they will not even be able to build a trident ICBM independently in a decade time.

Their Astute SSN encounter numerous problem that they seek US expertise to solve the pump jet engine problem. UK is not God. They can't do everything themselves. And it doesn't mean they will know everything.

 

[DoTell]

I agree with you to some extent. But then again, truth be told, without U.S/western sanctions against China(due to tienamen square massacre by the way) they will still be heavilly dependent on foreign powers to meet their defence needs, im sure they will be far the largest arms importer(putting even arms import dependent India to shame). Soour sanctions against them, is not all that bad news, at least it made possible a situation where they have no choice other than to develope/invest more in R n D their own weapons systems. So they should thank us instead for that.

"封锁吧。封锁个十年八年，中国什么都有了“
"Sanctions, give us more sanctions! Years later all our problems will be solved (by your sanctions)". -- Said Chairman Mao in the 60's.

The dude went overboard on a lot of things. But he was right on this one. And ironically what he said is still true even today.

When Europe was developing Galileo navigation system China tried to join. But we were denied because of the U.S. "sanction". Now we've developed Beidou, our own satellite navigation system years ahead of Galileo. Not only are we ahead, we beat them in capabilities as well. The Beidou is now considered a "threat" to the Galileo system. Guess what, according to the standard western script on any Chinese technology advances, the Beidou was built on "stolen" technology. So we are the thieves, the smartest ones on earth, who not only know how to steal the technology of an entire satellite navigation industry, but also learn it, master it and beat the "owner" of the technology. With modern day media, lies can be easily repeated more than a thousand times by the likes of BBC, CNN. That's okay. We much rather you believe this fairy tail. It is good for us when our foes underestimate us. But they can't and will never be able to stop us.

 

[mike2000]

sir you have no clue. pleae dont make such ignorant posts.

BAE systems is developing rail guns for USA. its Challenger armor is used in American Abram tanks. its stealth drones are at par with American drones and you might not know. its R&D in robotics and nuclear science is light years ahead of China. its jet engines power the Typhoons china is still reliant on Russians at the moment.. this is just one of the few examples I can go on.

it doesnt need to develop something itself when its close ally has already done that for it. Americans are called cousins across the pond for a reason.

Lol bro dont mind him, I ignored/didn't reply his posts for a reason. When you know someone is being overly nationalist to the point of being blind, then there's no reason arguing with them, since thy won't change their opinion no matter what. He doesn't even ask himself why his other Chinese brothers are quite/silent on this , since they themselves know his comment was silly/incorrect. Just let him carry on. He doesn't know we might be small, but we are one of the most technologically advanced country in the world.

When they can produce a reliable top notch engine like ours and even build aircraft carriers (which we have been doing for decades now) or a submarine at par with our astute then he can start talking. Until then he can keep importing smoky Russian engines.

If we had their size/economy then even the U.S will be struggling to keep up with us.

 

[cnleio]

Air-defense system on ZhuHai Air Show

8x8 type630 CIWS vehicle (Navy AK630 CIWS land version)

8×8车载630末端近防武器系统，外界也称其为“国产AK630陆版”。　　摄影：高瀚

CSSA1 2x35mm AAG vehicle (PG99 land version)

北方工业研制的CSSA1型车载双35毫米高炮系统，它是我国PG99式双管35毫米高炮的自走型号，已经列装我国陆军高炮部队。此次展示应该是它的出口型　　摄影：高瀚

HGR-106 3D search radar, max 210km range and 12,000km altitude

HGR-106中低空目标指示雷达可对高度在12000以下,距离210公里以内的中低空目标进行有效三维探测,并对目标信息进行敌我识别,全自动录取,数据存储和实时传输.　　摄影：高瀚

AAG command vehicle

 

[Kompromat]

Another critical aspect will be transfer of technology.

 

[cnleio]

Air-defense system on ZhuHai Air Show

LD-2000 CIWS vehicle (Navy type730 CIWS land version)

 

[SQ8]

This should just be called the Zhuhai Defence Expo & Airshow.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Lol bro dont mind him, I ignored/didn't reply his posts for a reason. When you know someone is being overly nationalist to the point of being blind, then there's no reason arguing with them, since thy won't change their opinion no matter what. He doesn't even ask himself why his other Chinese brothers are quite/silent on this , since they themselves know his comment was silly/incorrect. Just let him carry on. He doesn't know we might be small, but we are one of the most technologically advanced country in the world.

When they can produce a reliable top notch engine like ours and even build aircraft carriers (which we have been doing for decades now) or a submarine at par with our astute then he can start talking. Until then he can keep importing smoky Russian engines.

If we had their size/economy then even the U.S will be struggling to keep up with us.

I didnt mean to rain on his parade but record must be set straight. this thread is about China and their achievements are admirable, although there are blatant examples of copying West and Russia but still they make their things work.

 

[mike2000]

"封锁吧。封锁个十年八年，中国什么都有了“
"Sanctions, give us more sanctions! Years later all our problems will be solved (by your sanctions)". -- Said Chairman Mao in the 60's.

The dude went overboard on a lot of things. But he was right on this one. And ironically what he said is still true even today.

When Europe was developing Galileo navigation system China tried to join. But we were denied because of the U.S. "sanction". Now we've developed Beidou, our own satellite navigation system years ahead of Galileo. Not only are we ahead, we beat them in capabilities as well. The Beidou is now considered a "threat" to the Galileo system. Guess what, according to the standard western script on any Chinese technology advances, the Beidou was built on "stolen" technology. So we are the thieves, the smartest ones on earth, who not only know how to steal the technology of an entire satellite navigation industry, but also learn it, master it and beat the "owner" of the technology. With modern day media, lies can be easily repeated more than a thousand times by the likes of BBC, CNN. That's okay. We much rather you believe this fairy tail. It is good for us when our foes underestimate us. But they can't and will never be able to stop us.

Well at least we both agree on this. Our governments were indeed stupid to impose such sanctions on China. Since doing so only enables them to developed their own weapons industry themselves and with time they acquire the necessary know how/capabilities to build almost every major sophisticated weapons systems through R&D etc.

We should have kept selling China our weapons and bring them on board in all the main areas we are ahead/control like defence/military equipments etc. Just like with India, thus preventing them from investing in their own local defence industries with all the spin offs it has on other industries/economy. It's indeed a foolish decision the U.S/E.U made. Its always good to create dependency with your rival. So you can better control/know all his capabilities. Too bad our leaders are not that reasonable/have a long term thinking.