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Sunni ISIS murdered 500 Yazidi, make 300 women sex slave

There is good reason for Sunni to kill a lot of people because everyone are bad to Sunni.

Sunni is a very special people who cannot stop crying victim. The Ahmadya despite got big shit by Sunni never conduct terrorism.

And Sunni when in charge are the worst persecutors of their minorities today.

Sunni have special mind that need to be check by doctors.

You haven't contributed anymore to this topic apart from repeating the same thing you said.

A person that does not know the differences between "Sunnis" shouldn't be opening such topics.

Please do some research.
 
everybody knows this is a USA and israeli great game ...which sunni country's leadership do you see supporting ISIS...
they are same like TTP...but fortunatly we(Pakistan) have a strong miltary defence to eliminate that khwarij and zionist proganda and soon we will liminate all of them....but unfortunatly irqa dont have the same condition as dont have a strong miltary to defend their country from ISIS....
 
You haven't contributed anymore to this topic apart from repeating the same thing you said.

A person that does not know the differences between "Sunnis" shouldn't be opening such topics.

Please do some research.

What are the differences between 'Sunnis' ? :unsure:
 
What has Salafist or Wahabi has anything to do with what they do either? Now you are just being plain sectarian.

There is no sectarianism here my friend and you know exactly what I mean. I don't want to start off with Aqeedah issues here.

Yes there are peaceful "Salafis", but there is no denying that the vast majority of folks who are committing appalling atrocities follow a certain Aqeedah.
 
There is no sectarianism here my friend and you know exactly what I mean. I don't want to start off with Aqeedah issues here.

Yes there are peaceful "Salafis", but there is no denying that the vast majority of folks who are committing appalling atrocities follow a certain Aqeedah.

Oh come on Waz Bhai....we're making the same mistake that people make when they say 'the vast majority of the folks who are committing appalling atrocities are Muslims' ! :(
 
All this just shows they were Hindus who claimed to be Muslim despite worshiping Kali.

Damn!! what does it take to read a source? you wouldn't have dared going up to them and say "no you aren't muslims" - they probably would have strangled you as well though you are muslim.
 
@waz amigo; if you are of a Sufi disposition, then you will not be a threat to me or any human. The basis of Sufism is love and respect for all life.
Unfortunately, one is now becoming a witness to yet another developing schism in Islamic thinking..... this time within the Sunnis. And yes, probably the Salafist and Wahabbi thoughts are connected to it. Tragically, those thoughts have found wide acceptance and have substantial material resources from some quarters to propell them. Even a noble concept of Jehad is now open to rampant and common abuse.

Thank you Popeye my friend for your support and kind words. Sadly what you say is true, but he battle rages on.
 
There is no sectarianism here my friend and you know exactly what I mean. I don't want to start off with Aqeedah issues here.

Yes there are peaceful "Salafis", but there is no denying that the vast majority of folks who are committing appalling atrocities follow a certain Aqeedah.

Actually, what they believe in is that they follow Islam pure and unadulterated, so these people if you label them as Salafis etc. they will call you mad (Right before they kill you), so in essence, they do not actually follow a Salafi "Aqeedah" now do they? Because people who do call themselves Salafis would not associate with these people, Salafi etc. it just has become a thing that Muslims use to divert the blame and focus away from themselves by saying "NO NO IT WASN"T ME, IT WAS SOMEONE FOLLOWING ANOTHER SECT" which I find quite pathetic honestly.
 
Allah orders Muslims in the Quran to terrorize non-Muslims on His behalf.
"Strike terror (into the hearts of) the enemies of God and your enemies."
Surah 8:60
Fight (kill) them (non-Muslims), and God will punish, (torment) them by your hands, cover them with shame." Surah 9:14
" I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. It is not ye who slew them; it was God."
Surah 8:13-17.
JIHAD IN THE "HADITH".
In the Hadith Mohammed also urges Muslims to practice Jihad.
Mohammed was once asked: what is the best deed for the Muslim next to believing in Allah and His Apostle? His answer was : " To participate in Jihad in Allah’s cause. " Al Bukhari vol 1:25.
Mohammed was quoted as saying: "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah."
Al Bukhari vol 4:196.
Mohammed also said; "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed). Al Bukhari vol 1:35
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Allah demands killing . He is not one who sent Jesus.



Six Million African Muslims Convert to Christianity Each Year (?!)
The Muslim Times ^ | April 18, 2012 | Rafiq A. Tschannen
Posted on Friday, June 14, 2013 7:29:15 PM by 2ndDivisionVet
This translation of a televised conversation reveals a rare glimpse into the outlook of Muslim scholars who are concerned about Christianity’s growth. The invited guest is Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani; the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, which is an institution specializing in graduating imams and Islamic preachers.
Katani starts off describing the overall problem:
Islam used to represent, as you previously mentioned, Africa’s main religion and there were 30 African languages that used to be written in Arabic script. The number of Muslims in Africa has diminished to 316 million, half of whom are Arabs in North Africa. So in the section of Africa that we are talking about, the non Arab section, the number of Muslims does not exceed 150 million people. When we realize that the entire population of Africa is one billion people, we see that the number of Muslims has diminished greatly from what it was in the beginning of the last century. On the other hand, the number of Catholics has increased from one million in 1902 to 329 million 882 thousand (329,882,000). Let us round off that number to 330 million in the year 2000.
As to how that happened, well there are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity. These numbers are very large indeed.
From what I have heard from reliable sources, six million may be too low. Reliable accounts say that one hundred thousand Africans convert to Christianity per day, though not all of them come from Islam. Then Katani says Muslims should build schools before mosques, in order to build the worshipper (Muslim) before the building. Why? To stop the the dangerous “Christian missionary octopus”
This happens often! The wealthy Arab builds a mosque for himself or one of his parents of his friend, but my dear sir, building a mosque comes as a second stage. In America, the price of building an Islamic school is 5 million dollars. In Africa, 50 thousand dollars are enough to build a very reasonably sized school. I say this and I take full responsibility for it; building a school comes before building a mosque. Build the worshiper before you build the mosque. Take for example yourself; you go to the mosque five times a day and if you added all that time it would equal an hour or maybe two hours if you include the Friday prayer. However, if I ask you how long you stayed at school, you will reply that you spent years in middle school and years in high school. Likewise the African goes to the mosque, but if we built him a school where he could spend most of his time, and provided specialized educators we could at least stop this dangerous Christian missionary octopus.
Katani states the purpose of his school:
The truth is, the institution that I administer is considered pre-college. As for the subject of attracting and preparing specialized missionaries to bring them from their countries to Libya in order to train them and return them back to their countries, that is done through the Islamic Propagation Organization. This organization has graduated a number of classes, some of whose students had masters and doctorate degrees. These efforts were fruitful in that these graduates were able to attract people from their lands and countries because they spoke the language and understood the customs of the people they were proselytizing. This way, the missionary is not a foreigner to the community he is working with, contrast that to what would happen if I went to the Philippines for example. I can’t speak a single Philippino word; much less invite people to the faith.
By now other Muslim leaders have joined in. Abbas Hamid lives in Holland, and he deplores the un-Islamic way of life:
My brother may Allah reward you. We muslims in Holland suffer a lot when we see issues like this and we really suffer when we see a muslim, as the sheikh said, who spends millions in bars and entertainment while other muslims are lost and cannot find a translation of the Koran. Even their children who are able to learn cannot memorize the Koran, they can’t find a translated Koran or even any translated book. The first thing we must do is mend our selves; the Islamic countries must fix themselves first and then they can look at Africa. May Allah reward you and this issue is interesting.
Later, an Arabic-speaking Christian discusses how Islam must preach peace and love. No one denies, as none of the Muslim scholars do, that a religion has the right to spread his faith (except in hard line Islamic countries), but these leaders seem panicky. They express frustration at Islam’s disorganized efforts to maintain Africa. But this one idea eludes them: Islam itself is the problem because it is a burdensome and harsh religion. This is apparent when one Muslim scholar talks about implementing Shari’ah as if it is self-evident that it benefits society.
The whole conversation is fascinating. We must educate ourselves about Islam, and with the worldwide web, we have unprecedented opportunities.

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Hallelujah!!!!! Jesus ,the son of God has risen....

The African link you have given me is old and his been repeated for years now, despite that Muslims were always a majority in North Africa and never a presence in central and South where animism was prevalent largely then and Christianity today.

Yeah and verse 8:61
"And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing."

These are verses of war time behavior, yes God instructs us to fight when necessary and as you can see make peace when peace is offered. Cherry picking verses only works on losers such as yourself.

Verse 9:13
"Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers."

Once again makes it clear the fight is against those who broke an oath and attacked Muslims.

Again you cherry pick.

For 8:13-17 you only posted the final verse 8:17 and made it seem like you posted multiple verses, blatant lie on your part pathetic.

If you had posted all you would have notied 8:15

"O you who have believed, when you meet those who disbelieve advancing [for battle], do not turn to them your backs [in flight]."

The bold makes it clear this is talking about during a war.

As for Hadith first hadith has nothing wrong jihad is in many forms. As for second it contradicts what history tells us and can therefore be bs and as for third yes Muslims do have rewards from Allah if they fight in his cause.

Now I have answered your questions so answer mine.
 
Actually, what they believe in is that they follow Islam pure and unadulterated, so these people if you label them as Salafis etc. they will call you mad (Right before they kill you), so in essence, they do not actually follow a Salafi "Aqeedah" now do they? Because people who do call themselves Salafis would not associate with these people, Salafi etc. it just has become a thing that Muslims use to divert the blame and focus away from themselves by saying "NO NO IT WASN"T ME, IT WAS SOMEONE FOLLOWING ANOTHER SECT" which I find quite pathetic honestly.

i kind of agree with you, I doubt anyone can step up to IS and say - "you aren't Muslim" and come back alive.
 
The African link you have given me is old and his been repeated for years now, despite that Muslims were always a majority in North Africa and never a presence in central and South where animism was prevalent largely then and Christianity today.

Yeah and verse 8:61
"And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing."

These are verses of war time behavior, yes God instructs us to fight when necessary and as you can see make peace when peace is offered. Cherry picking verses only works on losers such as yourself.

Verse 9:13
"Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers."

Once again makes it clear the fight is against those who broke an oath and attacked Muslims.

Again you cherry pick.

For 8:13-17 you only posted the final verse 8:17 and made it seem like you posted multiple verses, blatant lie on your part pathetic.

If you had posted all you would have notied 8:15

"O you who have believed, when you meet those who disbelieve advancing [for battle], do not turn to them your backs [in flight]."

The bold makes it clear this is talking about during a war.

As for Hadith first hadith has nothing wrong jihad is in many forms. As for second it contradicts what history tells us and can therefore be bs and as for third yes Muslims do have rewards from Allah if they fight in his cause.

Now I have answered your questions so answer mine.

Already got a warning from mods for Christian propaganda. Too bad I will have to leave you in the darkness instead of enlightening your heart with the light of the son of God Lord Jesus.
 
Damn!! what does it take to read a source? you wouldn't have dared going up to them and say "no you aren't muslims" - they probably would have strangled you as well though you are muslim.

Doesn't matter they are not around now for you to make such an assumption.
 
@waz,

So what is happening is Sunni's are dividing among themselves to distance themselves from a part of their regressive bunch. This is unique to Islam though. I don't see Christians divorcing their extreme right wing or for e.g. Hindu's divorcing their right wing or the Buddhists divorcing their right wing.

This, I think is the reason why Muslims aren't able to get to grips with the extremist elements within their community. I assume divorcing doesn't help, disowning them will not go the issue go away...what's your take?

I've seen plenty of Christians distancing themselves from Evangelicals, with some official churches actively telling their congregations they twist the words of the good book.

Anyway Illusion, the idea is to divorce ourselves from them. How can we incorporate people who at the moment talks or a disagreement happens they will have your head on a spike. The right wing movements of other faiths don't quote embrace killing their co-religionists quite like the so called Jihadists.

The plan is to divorce and tackle them and their properganda. We are here to support Muslims who haven't fallen in line with them.
 

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