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@jhungary good night, or good morning depending on where you are.

I see Russian tried to spear quite deeply to try effect encirclement of cities, then something quickly catches up to them in the middle of nowhere? Is it aviation, or mobile defence going?

Your assessment of how much forces Russia still has on staging grounds. I see there were close to no new advancements other than remaining around trying to re-stage in Belarus, and separated detachments roaming in open fields in the South, trying to do something, likely move to better, more defensible positions.
 
Where is all this heading? This is a serious inquiry. All the signs are there for a full blown world war.
Oh I agree with you, this is proof that the negotiations broke down and both sides are leveraging their “sticks” to get the other to backdown.

The next 24 hours should be concerning for everyone.
 
Russian Demand
> We take the 35-40% of Ukraine, give you back Kiev
> We will review who will be Ukraine Head of state
> Russian will control Kiev for 3-4 Months at least till deals are finalized

NATO
> Ok accepted but we will do one big hoopla move for our Pubic over some remote target
> We will also want the Ukraine head of state to be friendly to us 50%

Ukraine Head of State
> Out of Job
> Exiled or killed his choice (Most liked will be captured by Russia and then exiled to EU)


Media will Spin it as a win for for Peace of World
Refugees will return and settle on Western Front
Ukraine will get some Aid from USA or EU (Financial Aid to rebuild the western Ukraine)
Media will cry a river over Ukraine for 2-4 months and then they will forget about it
 
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Where is all this heading? This is a serious inquiry. All the signs are there for a full blown world war.

Last feeds say Russia still dumping its ammo on shelling, but they are no longer advancing, trying to solidify their line where they are.
 
Wow, so either we see Russia back down or a face off technologies we haven't seen for some time. The game gets more even and complicated and the ball is in Russia's court. If the quantity of planes is substantial then we will know NATO is serious about helping the Ukrainians, if it is few in number then we will know they just want to add fuel to a fire just like they did in Syria and it would be obvious the the whole game is the demise of Ukraine for whatever reason. If Russia deploys the S400 and SU57s with SU35s the war will heat up more. The war will then spiral to a ceasefire or escalate to the Russians digging in for tactical warfare.
 
Honestly, if Kiev does not surrender and accept Russia's demands, particularly regarding neutrality, Russia can do much more than just the creation of a buffer state. It can turn Ukraine into a landlocked country and wait for it to become the second Moldova, or even worse. It won't take much time for the Ukrainians to change their minds then. If you look at the map, the Russian forces are already advancing fast in the Southern front, probably planning to disconnect Ukraine from the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov.

A landlocked Ukraine is a distinct possibility.
A change of the Kiev govt, if planned, was a very bad idea by Russia. Making Ukraine landlocked and occupying just enough to create a few hundred miles buffer in Eastern Ukraine while a tiny sliver of land occupied in the north close to Kiev would have been enough of 'gains' for Russia to ask for a ceasefire.
I don't think Russians had thought through enough of what they wanted out this war. The columns of Russian tanks destroyed show there wasn't enough thought given.
 
In fact, the NATO side is also under control at the moment. If Russia loses control, they will respond in kind. Remember, for Russia, winning means keeping it inside. Afghanistan is before your eyes.

Those who say that Europe's energy bill will increase will have something to say: Qatar and Algeria is under US/EU control. Do you think you can buy gas from Qatar and Algeria as easily as before while Europe is suffering from energy shortages? These countries ignore their contracts with Asia and ship all the gas to Europe. If energy prices increase, it will not only increase for Europe. Asian countries also get their share from it.
If Russia is under total embargo, I can foresee them warning countries like Qatar and Algeria to stop gas supply to EU or else ballistic missiles start dropping on their gas fields. These countries then use the threats as a good excuse to either raise prices or stop supplying the EU?
 
Wow, so either we see Russia back down or a face off technologies we haven't seen for some time. The game gets more even and complicated and the ball is in Russia's court. If the quantity of planes is substantial then we will know NATO is serious about helping the Ukrainians, if it is few in number then we will know they just want to add fuel to a fire just like they did in Syria and it would be obvious the the whole game is the demise of Ukraine for whatever reason. If Russia deploys the S400 and SU57s with SU35s the war will heat up more. The war will then spiral to a ceasefire or escalate to the Russians digging in for tactical warfare.
Well they captured Berdiansk and I’ve already shared footage of soldiers patrolling Mariupol , so then what we see right now is a lull for negotiations.


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If Russia is under total embargo, I can foresee them warning countries like Qatar and Algeria to stop gas supply to EU or else ballistic missiles start dropping on their gas fields. These countries then use the threats as a good excuse to either raise prices or stop supplying the EU?
Russia wouldn’t do that but by virtue of cutting their supply to Europe, the prices will rise.
 
Europeans , Russians and Americans can nuke each other for all I care.

Besides , white people have so much to lose compared to other parts of the world. The world would be better off with less white people.

Lol, you think white people will stay in Europe that becomes a nuclear wasteland? No they will be moving to towns and villages near you.
 
Lol, you think white people will stay in Europe that becomes a nuclear wasteland? No they will be moving to towns and villages near you.
I doubt he would mind that though. Then Muslims can finally take revenge for how they have been treating refugees from war-torn Middle Eastern countries. But it will never get to that point fortunately.
 
The more russians delay the capture of ukraine , the more it is going to difficult . This is a time sensitive manner and that window will not be open indefinitely.
Russians could be using the Python strategy, first strike and grab the prey and then slowly constrict it until it offers no resistance and then gobble it up. But the NATO mongoose has turned up the one creature the Python is extremely wary of.
 
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