JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[FuturePAF]

Looks taller too or am I tripping.

Perhaps the angle

 

[StormBreaker]

Oh well, and still this tweet from late 2020 proclaimed by a Russian site is taken for granted as if already 400 are for Pakistan?? Come on, this is a typical Russian announcement that sets high hopes including a full PAF purchase and several more new foreign export customers.

I won't hold my breath for 400 Block 3 JF-17s for Pakistan.

We don’t need Block 3 anymore given the arrival of J-10C and J-15.

Times change and minds update.

 

[arjunk]

J-15.

 

[Bossman]

We don’t need Block 3 anymore given the arrival of J-10C and J-15.

Times change and minds update.

When?

 

[Deino]

That’s a really sensible point actually.
@Deino , he’s right, no?

IMO unlikely … the ChinSee will more likely use WS-13 as an interim.

We don’t need Block 3 anymore given the arrival of J-10C and J-15.

What??? Since when and why do you think again on J-15s??

 

[StormBreaker]

IMO unlikely … the ChinSee will more likely use WS-13 as an interim.




What??? Since when and why do you think again on J-15s??

You will know when the time comes

 

[arjunk]

You will know when the time comes

Is it hiding with the 9000 C-130s and 72000 F-16Vs?

 

[iLION12345_1]

You will know when the time comes

No we won’t, because those flankers cannot be exported. Pakistan will never operate J-11, J-15 and J-16. And that is fact. If by some miracle Pakistan does want to get flankers, it will have to go to Russia for them.

 

[Deino]

You will know when the time comes

Honestly, we are discussing J-15 since almost 2 years and I haven't heard any single reasonable argument that would make sense! I really don't know why some are so much obsessed by this theory ...

But yes, I'll wait and but another bottle of Champagne into the refrigerator in case you are correct.

Is it hiding with the 9000 C-130s and 72000 F-16Vs?

and well behind the three 055 DDGs, the Liaoning and the Squadron of J-20s!

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

400 jf17 block 3s is laughable lol

According to Alan Warnes after speaking with the Air Chief, the 3000 number on Block-3 represents a large number of sales to other nations.

 

[DJ_Viper]

According to Alan Warnes after speaking with the Air Chief, the 3000 number on Block-3 represents a large number of sales to other nations.

I doubt the 3000 number with passion. Let's divide the world for a second into tiers: Tier 1: Countries who can develop jets better or similar to the JFT. Tier 2: The Middle East (predominantly American hardware), TurKey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Serbia and Tier III: Africa, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Iraq, Iran, Afghan, etc. So far, with the Chinese + Pakistani influence only less than 20 jets have been sold I believe. Outside of Egypt, the Middle East looks hard to sell to, due to access to money and better systems. That leaves Pakistan with Tier III countries only and even that's with limits. Add Russia as a serious competition too with "Check Mate", etc.

I suspect a total of 250-400 JFT's block III and IIII's will be sold over the next TEN years and that's it.

 

[Nasr]

We don’t need Block 3 anymore given the arrival of J-10C and J-15.

Times change and minds update.

J-15s are "Carrierborne" aircraft, for Pakistan Air Force??

 

[Marker]

I doubt the 3000 number with passion. Let's divide the world for a second into tiers: Tier 1: Countries who can develop jets better or similar to the JFT. Tier 2: The Middle East (predominantly American hardware), TurKey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Serbia and Tier III: Africa, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Iraq, Iran, Afghan, etc. So far, with the Chinese + Pakistani influence only less than 20 jets have been sold I believe. Outside of Egypt, the Middle East looks hard to sell to, due to access to money and better systems. That leaves Pakistan with Tier III countries only and even that's with limits. Add Russia as a serious competition too with "Check Mate", etc.

I suspect a total of 250-400 JFT's block III and IIII's will be sold over the next TEN years and that's it.

Just wait for a "small" skirmish with our neighbour, they loosing a Rafale, a Su 30MKI and a Mirage 2k, PAF/Chinese will be selling JF-17s as hot cakes.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I doubt the 3000 number with passion. Let's divide the world for a second into tiers: Tier 1: Countries who can develop jets better or similar to the JFT. Tier 2: The Middle East (predominantly American hardware), TurKey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Serbia and Tier III: Africa, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Iraq, Iran, Afghan, etc. So far, with the Chinese + Pakistani influence only less than 20 jets have been sold I believe. Outside of Egypt, the Middle East looks hard to sell to, due to access to money and better systems. That leaves Pakistan with Tier III countries only and even that's with limits. Add Russia as a serious competition too with "Check Mate", etc.

I suspect a total of 250-400 JFT's block III and IIII's will be sold over the next TEN years and that's it.

You misunderstood. The 3000 number on the Block-3 doesn't mean 3,000 JF-17 Thunders will be produced.

 

[52051]

Just wait for a "small" skirmish with our neighbour, they loosing a Rafale, a Su 30MKI and a Mirage 2k, PAF/Chinese will be selling JF-17s as hot cakes.

In such case, the Indian would announce they have shoot down 11 J-20, 3 F-22 and 3 B-2.