Anyone been to Iran?

[Saif al-Arab]

Saif the Arab, the guy with serious mental issues who spends his precious time on the internet to impress a bunch of fanboys about his backward desert culture, and obsessively mingles in every Iran-related thread because he can't stand the fact that Iran has beaten his pathetic petrodollar-country in the regional power struggle and that his fellow citizens only recently escaped from their desert tents, and even despite all their money, will never been able to attain the civilizational elements of the Persian culture.

The Arab world is the cradle of civilization. We don't need lessons from an entity whose entire civilization is based/funded upon our ancient Semitic civilizations. As for tourism, Dubai alone, receives many times the tourists that all of Iran does. As for World UNESCO Heritage Sites, Arabia alone is home to more than all of Iran. As well as more and older historical sites.

I don't care about your (to a large degree) Arabized (let alone pre-Islamic Semitic influences that are rampant everywhere you look) Persian culture but I do care when some Iranian wannabe Arab user here promoted videos made by some Arab Shia "religious" tourists visiting tombs of long-dead Hijazi Arabs in cities funded by Arabs (Qom and Mashhad) and named by them. Let alone when that money goes straight in the pocket of a hostile terrorist regime.

It's not more than 3 decades ago that most of your likes were illiterate, Iran home to the largest nomadic population in the ME and less than 100 years ago your entity was home to the largest famine in this region's modern history. A famine that would make Somalia envious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_famine_of_1917–1919

To this day most Westerners confuse Iran for an Arab country. That's how much "worth" you have.

Yes, when realities become nonsense, then one really becomes deaf and blind.


I leave you in your Arab Supremacy syndrome.


Same thing is told about KSA and Arab Countries by those Western Fanatics, who consider Islam and Saudia and other Islamic countries to be evil wrong doers. I see absolutely no difference in your behaviour and those right wing parties of the Europe who also come up with this same logic as you have shown here.

And if you are so much allergic to Iran and Iranian People, then you should have told exactly this SAME Reason in your first post (i.e. you hate Arabs to visit Iran), instead of telling lies about Iran that it is unsafe for the Tourists or poor or lacks the infrastructure blah blah blah.



Don't try to be clever. Earlier Morocco and Sudan etc. were the ARAB countries, and now they have become the Maghreb?

Africa or whatever reason, but reality is this that these are the ARAB countries and they do 100 times more FGM than Iran.

And your claim about Imam Shafii has no value when these fatwas are themselves present in the books of Shafii fiqh and it is not due to African influence, but it is due to Shafii Islamic Fatwa that FGM is practised in these countries.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_on_female_genital_mutilation#Sunni_view

The Shafi'i school considers female circumcision to be wajib (obligatory).[39]
The Hanbali school considers female circumcision to be makrumah (honorable) and strongly encouraged, to obligatory.[40]
The Maliki school considers female circumcision to be sunnah (optional) and preferred.[40]
The Hanafi school considers female circumcision to be sunnah (preferred).[40]
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And this same Shafii Fiqh is practised in Indonesia and Malaysia, and as result 85% of Indonesian girls get FGM till they reach the age of 18 years, while 93% of girl in Malaysia get FGM.
Here you could not even make a lame excuse that Indonisian and Malaysian Muslims girls got FGM due to African culture. It is purely due to the Shafii fatwa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country#Indonesia

It is shame when you could not see the FGM in your Arab and then Sunni Indonesia and Malaysia, but for you all evils are due to Iran.

Moreover, you also told a lie about Yemen. FGM is highly practiced in Yemen and the Yemen's assembly opposed to declare it as a crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country#Yemen

And there is no African Tribes present in Yemen that you again shift the blame upon the Africans.

But I know you. You will once again come out of blames of "nonsense" and will never provide any proofs regarding your claims. This is your last path to escape.


You pull out things from your own pocket, and then blame others for nonsense.

I already posted the link to the research (which is not from my own pockets like you), which is clear that it is the Shafii followers in the state of Hormozgan and its nearby islands (Qeshm and Hormuz) which contains the Shafii followers of Arab descend.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/04/female-genital-mutilation-iran-fgm

Nobody is going to read your nonsense.

Fact number 1)

FMG is most widespread in Iran of all Near Eastern/Western Asian nations (google which countries this is).

Fact number 2)

FMG is only present in Egypt and parts of the Maghreb and that is due to the influence of the Sahel and pre-Islamic traditions.

Fact number 3)

If FMG was considered legitimate by all 4 Sunni Muslim maddahib, FMG would be widespread and practiced by most if not all people in Arabia when that is nowhere near close to being the case. This includes Shafi'is.

Anyway as @SALMAN F said, quit the sucking. You are neither an Arab nor an Iranian.

 

[SALMAN F]

Arabs is Pakistan's concern far more than Kashmir as Pakistan has been fighting Arab war when Israel knocked the door it was Pakistani pilots that stopped Israel not Arabs. It is Pakistani troops that are stationed in Saudis to protect. Throw Pakistan out of the Arab equation and how long can Arab world fight Iran. Pakistan is the balance in the equation and it is time for arabs to realize that it would better to be friends will all muslims than zions and Sam.

Only small amount of pakistani pilots participated in the arab-israeli wars that it and the rest is nonsence

Besides Pakistan benefited from the gulf arabs more than they benefited from Pakistan like the nuclear program and the economic help

 

[Surenas]

The Arab world is the cradle of civilization. We don't need lessons from an entity whose entire civilization is based/funded upon our ancient Semitic civilizations. As for tourism, Dubai alone, receives many times the tourists that all of Iran does. As for World UNESCO Heritage Sites, Arabia alone is home to more than all of Iran. As well as more and older historical sites.

I don't care about your (to a large degree) Arabized (let alone pre-Islamic Semitic influences that are rampant everywhere you look) Persian culture but I do care when some Iranian wannabe Arab user here promoted videos made by some Arab Shia "religious" tourists visiting tombs of long-dead Hijazi Arabs in cities funded by Arabs (Qom and Mashhad) and named by them. Let alone when that money goes straight in the pocket of a hostile terrorist regime.

It's not more than 3 decades ago that most of your likes were illiterate, Iran home to the largest nomadic population in the ME and less than 100 years ago your entity was home to the largest famine in this region's modern history. A famine that would make Somalia envious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_famine_of_1917–1919

To this day most Westerners confuse Iran for an Arab country. That's how much "worth" you have.

I don't care what a bunch of ignorant Westerners think. Nor what a deluded Arab with no great civilizational history is claiming on a internet forum. You may want to read some of the books of your medieval Arab histories who, even if they didn't like us fire-worshipping Majoos, always acknowledged and knew that Persian civilization vastly outshined anything your desert has ever produced.

I remember the time when you claimed that you were half Swedish and Italian, out of pure shame of your Arabness. There is nothing worthy your culture has ever developed. Spare me your infantile nonsense.

 

[BHarwana]

Only small amount of pakistani pilots participated in the arab-israeli wars that it and the rest is nonsence

Besides Pakistan benefited from the gulf arabs more than they benefited from Pakistan like the nuclear program and the economic help

Which Arabs helped Pakistan in the Nuclear program? Hello ?
It was Gaddafi and Iran that funded Pakistan Nuclear Program and they were given the due payment back in form of the tech.
Regarding the rest still Iraqi airforce is being trained in PAF academies and Iraq has thanked Pakistan for it. So you are a little miss informed my friend. Pakistan is a bigger military power than the Arab world. Pakistan don't have American troops protecting Pakistan we can protect our selves unlike Arab world where every country has an American base.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Only small amount of pakistani pilots participated in the arab-israeli wars that it and the rest is nonsence

Besides Pakistan benefited from the gulf arabs more than they benefited from Pakistan like the nuclear program and the economic help

Around 15 Pakistani pilots participated and ALL of them volunteered. Those two individuals are Mullah drones. The guy that you are quoting was comparing Tehran ( ) of the 1970's with New York City. Do I need to mention more?

It's time to tell a few truths as I did.

I don't care what a bunch of ignorant Westerners think. Nor what a deluded Arab with no great civilizational history is claiming on a internet forum. You may want to read some of the books of your medieval Arab histories who, even if they didn't like us fire-worshipping Majoos, always acknowledged and knew that Persian civilizational vastly outshines anything your desert has ever produced.

I remember the time when you claimed that you were half Swedish and Italian, out of pure shame of your Arabness. There is nothing worthy your culture has ever developed. Spare me your infantile nonsense.

Yes, historically factual information is "infantile behavior". I have proven every claim that I wrote a few times before on PDF and I can do it again. No need to as it is evident for any well-versed person. I don't need to prove that the earth is round and not flat.

Your fake bravado is outdated and hilarious and contrary to the historical realities. However I will let you live in your illusion.

 

[Śakra]

Ruim was a Persian poet who grew up in a Persian family and region which has for thousands of years belonged to Greater Iran.

Besides, there is nothing more hilarious than a Indian accusing an Iranian of cultural theft. Many of your greatest cultural elements are originally Iranian, from architectural influences (Taj Mahal), food (biryani, etc), poetry, literature, music, etc.

@Saif al-Arab claiming just like you said!

Surenas it's so cute when you claim others things. Taj Mahal also has Italian influence (floral designs along the wall), I guess @ValerioAurelius is going to claim it's an Italian building. Maybe Afghans will claim it's theirs because the architect was from there.

Just because biryani is a farsi word doesn't mean it's farsi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biryani#Origin

Even bigger LOL is the claiming of poetry, literature, music. Next you're going to claim Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are irani in origin (oh wait many of your countrymen claim in is because """zoroastrianism""")

 

[Surenas]

@Saif al-Arab claiming just like you said!

Surenas it's so cute when you claim others things. Taj Mahal also has Italian influence (floral designs along the wall), I guess @ValerioAurelius is going to claim it's an Italian building. Maybe Afghans will claim it's theirs because the architect was from there.

Just because biryani is a farsi word doesn't mean it's farsi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biryani#Origin

Even bigger LOL is the claiming of poetry, literature, music. Next you're going to claim Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are irani in origin (oh wait many of your countrymen claim in is because """zoroastrianism""")

Most of Taj Mahal architects were Persian. Most of its influences were Persian. Any culturally worthy coming out of your country was established by the Mughals, who in turn imported many of these things from Persia.

I could provide you with dozens of sources.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

@Saif al-Arab claiming just like you said!

Surenas it's so cute when you claim others things. Taj Mahal also has Italian influence (floral designs along the wall), I guess @ValerioAurelius is going to claim it's an Italian building. Maybe Afghans will claim it's theirs because the architect was from there.

Just because biryani is a farsi word doesn't mean it's farsi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biryani#Origin

Even bigger LOL is the claiming of poetry, literature, music. Next you're going to claim Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are irani in origin (oh wait many of your countrymen claim in is because """zoroastrianism""")

The same pseudo-religion whose funder is most likely a mythical person whose exact date of birth and location of birth is unknown. Unlike a Semitic king and emperor like Sargon of Akkad who ruled almost 4500 years ago and whose bust exists to this very day.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad

Notice that this exact design was copied by the Persians when they first encountered civilian when they met our Semitic ancestors and when they first appeared in history some 2800 years ago.

For instance the history that the Mullah drones on PDF learn in their local Iranian-sponsored madrassas, tells them that an ancient Semitic city like Babylon (predating the notion of Iran by millennia) was an Iranian city built by them.

Even their title (King of Kings) is an ancient Semitic title.

I could mention many other cultural influences such as alphabets, architecture, science, religious influences, state system (Assyrian Empire says hello) etc. Since the Islamic age (past 1400 years) this influence has just continued. Granted there were some influences the other way as well but they were much greater the other way around like back then.

This is why they are using an Arabic alphabet, why their language has 1000's of Arabic loanwords, why they are following Islam, using Arabic names, have numerous cities of Arabic origin (name) etc. while the greatest influence the other way around are a few Persian loanwords in Iraqi and Gulf Arabic and 1-2 dishes.

Hence the world confusing Iran for being just another of the over 20 Arab countries.

The funniest thing is that the Iranian Islamists owe so much to the Arabs while the Iranian nationalists owe so much to the ancestors of Arabs (Semites). That's maybe the greatest irony.

 

[Śakra]

Most of Taj Mahal architects were Persian. Most of its influences were Persian. Any culturally worthy coming out of your country was established by the Mughals, who in turn imported many of these things from Persia.

I could provide you with dozens of sources.

Love go ahead and believe anything your heart wants. You'll find the funny thing about reality is you can't wish it away. You iranis build up these fanciful narratives as a coping mechanism. You're considered part of the Axis of Evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil, a collection pariah states bound together by the animosity the rest of the world has for your countries.

 

[BHarwana]

Most of Taj Mahal architects were Persian. Most of its influences were Persian. Any culturally worthy coming out of your country was established by the Mughals, who in turn imported many of these things from Persia.

I could provide you with dozens of sources

The person who is credited for the construction of Taj Mahal is Mongol. Arungzeb was of Mongol origin so what does that ends into nothing. Taj Mahal was made by the Mugals who were Indians. The contractor who worked on it was Persian. But it is kings that are credited for Wonders no one names them after the workers the are mostly forgotten.

 

[Surenas]

The same pseudo-religion whose funder is most likely a mythical person whose exact date of birth and location of birth is unknown. Unlike a Semitic king and emperor like Sargon of Akkad who ruled almost 4500 years ago and whose bust exists to this very day.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad

Notice that this exact design was copied by the Persians when they first encountered civilian when they met our Semitic ancestors and when they first appeared in history some 2800 years ago.

First of all, don't compare northern Semites with southern Semites. From a cultural or civilizational perspective, the differences are like that between water and fire. Secondly, the influences were real, yet the Iranians in the end vastly out performed anything the Assyrians or Babylonians ever produced. The Persians managed to create a organizational structure to rule over a empire which from its most eastern point to its western borders, took three months of travelling. No ancient Semite culture ever managed to do that. Thirdly, Iranians always had a habit to incoorperate effective and positive elements of other cultures into their own, eventually creating an own unique version. Fourth, any culture or people who has ever come in contact with Persian culture has been impressed by its cultural richness and intellectual stength. From the Greeks to the French, Indians, Turks to even Arabs.

 

[Surenas]

Love go ahead and believe anything your heart wants. You'll find the funny thing about reality is you can't wish it away. You iranis build up these fanciful narratives as a coping mechanism. You're considered part of the Axis of Evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil, a collection pariah states bound together by the animosity the rest of the world has for your countries.

Considered by whom? By the same people who invaded and destroyed sovereign countries, killing hundred of thousands of people in the process? Spare me their judgement, nor your pathetic attempt to inflict it as some kind of objective truth. Secondly, most of the West does business with Iran, and consider it to be a strong regional power.

Some countries on the other hand are just mad that Iran has advanced its own interests, and doesn't bend over for Western demands or supremacy. Something your slave-mindedness, which is intrinsic to Indian culture, will never understand.

 

[Śakra]

. Thirdly, Iranians always had a habit to incoorperate effective and positive elements of other cultures into their own, eventually creating an own unique version.

You have no consistency in your thoughts. First you're looking down on Indians for supposedly practicing "cultural theft" from iranis. Now that iransi are doing it you are claiming that you're "incorporate effective and positive elements of other cultures into your own, eventually creating an own unique version". Which is it, theft or assimilation???

 

[Azadkashmir]

I can feel the disappointment kiddo. Good luck for ahead.



Nailed it.

You can feel the disappointment, awww go for a walk you will feel better maybe even treat yourself to a kebab.

 

[Surenas]

There is one claiming Mughals are iranis and Rumi (an Afghan) is a part of """""Greater Iran""""""

Mughals were culturally Persian. Their ethnicity is of less importance than their cultural outlook. Rumi wasn't a Afghan. The term didn't even exist back then. He was a Persian, and wrote all of his poetry in Persian.