Zia ul Haq my grandfather

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very few people like you show clarity on religion and practical life

Because most moderates are intimidated into silence, and evil flourishes.

many players were involved.

Afghan jihad was decided much before him by Bhutto

USSR invaded Afghanistan in December of 1979. Bhutto was deposed by General Zia in July of 1977 before being hung by him in April of 1979. I don't think Bhutto was in a position to decide anything by the time of the Russian invasion, unless one believes in divine intervention here. No, the jihadi involvement of Pakistan was decided by General Zia, 100%.

Its not just his claims. If you consider Islam to be run by the house of saud to be true islam then I could stand corrected. Its the claims of visionless herders of sheep that has brain washed them into thinking that once their unimaginable system comes into play that every house will have rooms full of gold and become a super power. They still will not agree to which Islam holds the key to success. Will the deobandis consider to follow the Barelvi Shariah? Shouldn't they be considering to not pray in two separate mosques before talking this big game being their salvation? Not even going to talk about the other 50% of muslims which are Sufi's, Hanafi's or according to him the non muslim shia's.

The diversity that you mention only serves to underscore what I said: it is impossible to claim and enforce a unified system that works for everyone all the time.

No sir Islam is a system and it has laws for everything economy goverment trade crime and social life and leader in Islam is to be followed until and unless he follows and decides in all matters according to Quran and Sunnah but you want live with kufar your choice but we would throw this system out

Throw this system out where? That is why people with your type of thinking will never succeed, because this will be stopped by a majority.

 

[Spring Onion]

USSR invaded Afghanistan in December of 1979. Bhutto was deposed by General Zia in July of 1977 before being hung by him in April of 1979. I don't think Bhutto was in a position to decide anything by the time of the Russian invasion, unless one believes in divine intervention here. No, the jihadi involvement of Pakistan was decided by General Zia, 100%.

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you have scant knowledge. Anyway the decision was taken much before to block USSR from further advancement by bhutto. It was a time when Musharaf was a young soldier not even a major

 

[batmannow]

General Zia's dictatorship laid the foundations for the present day religious disaster in Pakistan. Let us not confuse his personal piety with these national tragedies.

Are you the god, deciding everything on earth?
What we are having the mess, is the simple inability of our so called politicians ?
What they have done , to delete so called ills of the ZAI shb? Nothing?
At least he was not croupt , he was a good commander under attacked from each side?
With a broken army? 1971?
IDHAR hum UDHAR tum, philosophy which led the creation of Bangladesh ?
Long live pakarmy, long live genrl zaI ul Haq, shaheed!

 

[Jaanbaz]

Mr start I would love to expose your and your Mirza lies

You can't expose anyone but your own hate filled upbringing. As for exposing Mirza Sahib, his community is still alive and well and continues to spread all over the world. Your kind have tried before and will fail. Your hero Zia claimed he would uproot Ahmadiyyat but we saw how he himself was uprooted and blown into pieces.

 

[forcetrip]

O really look how much they controlled area before 9/11 and how much after

Thats like asking me what is the rat population in gutters. These sleeping liberals and pacifists with their talking have a lot of innocent blood on their hands. The innocent unarmed villages and area is slowly being taken back as we speak. The problem is that these jihadis run away and attack some other unarmed village down the road. That is why like I said, it will be a bloody and drawn out process. Your dreams will not materialize till i am alive. The strategy of using human shields and terror to occupy lands is very short lived.

 

[Zarvan]

Because most moderates are intimidated into silence, and evil flourishes.



USSR invaded Afghanistan in December of 1979. Bhutto was deposed by General Zia in July of 1977 before being hung by him in April of 1979. I don't think Bhutto was in a position to decide anything by the time of the Russian invasion, unless one believes in divine intervention here. No, the jihadi involvement of Pakistan was decided by General Zia, 100%.



The diversity that you mention only serves to underscore what I said: it is impossible to claim and enforce a unified system that works for everyone all the time.



Throw this system out where? That is why people with your type of thinking will never succeed, because this will be stopped by a majority.

This will not be stopped instead supported by majority and whole system off kufr along with its supporters will be turned into history

 

[Zarvan]

Thats like asking me what is the rat population in gutters. These sleeping liberals and pacifists with their talking have a lot of innocent blood on their hands. The innocent unarmed villages and area is slowly being taken back as we speak. The problem is that these jihadis run away and attack some other unarmed village down the road. That is why like I said, it will be a bloody and drawn out process. Your dreams will not materialize till i am alive. The strategy of using human shields and terror to occupy lands is very short lived.

Many off you have landed in Gutter like ST and many more

 

[SQ8]

The man who brought in this filth that is now eating away at our country. Sympathy for the Devil much?,Good to see that there are many out here who have sympathy for Zai-ul-haq..But then again, these are people who have openly expressed genocidal thoughts on this forum so no surprise.

 

[Zarvan]

You can't expose anyone but your own hate filled upbringing. As for exposing Mirza Sahib, his community is still alive and well and continues to spread all over the world. Your kind have tried before and will fail. Your hero Zia claimed he would uproot Ahmadiyyat but we saw how he himself was uprooted and blown into pieces.

Yes Zia was maryterd and millions attended the lions funeral as for fraud and liar Mirza he was exposed and he will keep getting exposed on how big liar and fraud he was

 

[SQ8]

Many off you have landed in Gutter like ST and many more

Only the Jahil Jihadis have. Blown to bits by Kafir American LGBs. Bits of their flesh rotting away in the sun being eaten by ants and vultures, so much for their Shaheed status.

 

[syedali73]

You can't expose anyone but your own hate filled upbringing. As for exposing Mirza Sahib, his community is still alive and well and continues to spread all over the world. Your kind have tried before and will fail. Your hero Zia claimed he would uproot Ahmadiyyat but we saw how he himself was uprooted and blown into pieces.

No such claim was made by Gen. Zia. Please avoid putting your words in someone's else mouth. Several hundred of other soldiers and officers of Pakistan Army have been blown up into pieces in several wars/battles/skirmishes; were they also on the agenda of uprooting Qadyanis?

 

[Zarvan]

Only the Jahil Jihadis have. Blown to bits by Kafir American LGBs. Bits of their flesh rotting away in the sun being eaten by ants and vultures, so much for their Shaheed status.

Yes Yes and still same mighty USA begging Afghan Taliban for talks and ran away from Iraq so sad

 

[Jaanbaz]

Yes Zia was maryterd and millions attended the lions funeral as for fraud and liar Mirza he was exposed and he will keep getting exposed on how big liar and fraud he was

So? Millions attended the funeral of Stalin does that mean he was also a lion of Islam? Emotionally weak people like you are perfectly easy to brainwash.

 

[syedali73]

Only the Jahil Jihadis have. Blown to bits by Kafir American LGBs. Bits of their flesh rotting away in the sun being eaten by ants and vultures, so much for their Shaheed status.

Fighting against an invader was/is every bit legitimate. Please don't make mockery of their cause. What would you have done had your country was under attack by an invader?

 

[forcetrip]

Many off you have landed in Gutter like ST and many more

Sunni Thereek has landed in the gutter? Not sure if I should argue with that.