Zhuhai Air Show 2014 - Updates & Discussions

[cnleio]

Y-20,C-17,IL-78,AN-70 will attend 11.11 ZhuHai Air Show

A-400 not

 

[cnleio]

Good news, Su-35 fighter now in TaiYuan city airport next day will fly to ZhuHai airport

Maybe 2014-ZhuHai Air Show will end years rumor of Sino-Russia Su-35 deal

 

[Brainsucker]

Btw, tell me the countries who participate in this air show? I can see American and Russian. I wonder if French, British and Germany will also participate in here.

 

[cirr]

Guys，don't waste time trying to talk senses into someone coming from a country that can't make its own rifles。

Good news, Su-35 fighter now in TaiYuan city airport next day will fly to ZhuHai airport

Maybe 2014-ZhuHai Air Show will end years rumor of Sino-Russia Su-35 deal
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I am for buying 48 Su-35s for political reasons。It is certainly a show of support to and solidarity with Russia。

In addition，the purchase speeds up the replacement of aging J-7s and J-8s that still make up a large chunk of the PLAAF formations。It is also a way to balance the Sino-Russian two-way trade that is increasingly tilted in China‘s favour。

 

[cnleio]

Btw, tell me the countries who participate in this air show? I can see American and Russian. I wonder if French, British and Germany will also participate in here.

The Europe nations not attend ZhuHai Air Show, but their AirBus & Eurocopter come.

Guys，don't waste time trying to talk senses into someone coming from a country that can't make its own rifles。


I am for buying 48 Su-35s for political reasons。It is certainly a show of support to and solidarity with Russia。

In addition，the purchase speeds up the replacement of aging J-7s and J-8s that still make up a large chunk of the PLAAF formations。It is also a way to balance the Sino-Russian two-way trade that is increasingly tilted in China‘s favour。

< 100x Su-35 and 100~200x 117S jet engines, China has more interest in 117S more than Su35.

The possible deal is China buying 48x Su-35 fighters + many 117S.

 

[帅的一匹]

We have 4 trillions foreign reserve, should go for 120 Plus of it to make PLAAF the most powerful airforce in Asia? Putin will be happy and PLAAF will be happy as well. They shall set up and 117s assembly line in CHina for easier maintenance.

 

[aliaselin]

What is this? FM-3000 SAM?

 

[nomi007]

China Airshow Will Unveil J-31
TAIPEI — A Chinese airshow official has confirmed that China will unveil its stealthy J-31 fighter aircraft at China’s biggest commercial and defense airshow next week in Zhuhai, in the southern province of Guangdong near Hong Kong.

Known officially as the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, the event will be held from Nov. 11-14. About 700 aviation companies and 120 aircraft will participate.

Built by Shenyang Aircraft, this will be the first public demonstration of the twin-engine J-31. The fighter is similar in configuration to the single-engine Lockheed F-35 stealth fighter. Chinese-language military blogs posted photographs of the J-31 practicing demonstration flights at Zhuhai last week.

The People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) will be exhibiting the JH-7A and J-10 fighters, Z-8KA helicopter, and the upgraded H-6M medium-range bomber capable of carrying cruise missiles. The Hongdu L-15 Falcon fighter trainer is not yet listed nor is there a press conference. Hongdu has made a special effort at other air shows in the Middle East and Asia to promote the aircraft.

There is also no listing for the Pakistan-built JF-17 fighter, which was at the 2012 airshow. However, Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) will exhibit the FC-1 fighter, which is a Chinese variant of the JF-17. The fighter is a joint program by Chengdu Aircraft and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.

The Russian-built Su-35 super-maneuverable fighter will be on display for the first time. China and Russia have been in negotiations for a deal on the fighter since 2006 and a signing may be possible in late November.

“As far as I understand now, there will be a contract for 24 aircraft plus some spare engines,” said Vassily Kashin, an expert on Russia’s arms trade with China at Moscow’s Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies. “The negotiations on engine technology transfers are progressing separately, that is a different cooperation area.”

Built by the United Aircraft Corp, the aircraft is powered by the same engine fitted on the stealthy Russian T-50, the Saturn AL-117S, which is an upgraded variant of the AL-31FN. China already imports the AL-31FN from Russia for the single-engine Chengdu J-10 fighter.

Russia agreed to a deal to build Su-27 fighters in China in the 1990s, but China began producing an Su-27 copycat, dubbed the J-11 fighter, by Shenyang Aircraft. There are fears in Moscow that China will do the same with the Su-35, as well as the AL-117 engine for its J-20 stealth fighter.

Richard Bitzinger, a defense industry specialist at Singapore’s Rajaratnam School of International Studies, said Russia will “sell the engines that go into Chinese aircraft, but not the production technology.” He said it is unlikely Russia would transfer the technology to build these types of engines in China.

At the last minute, the South Korean Air Force canceled participation in the airshow. The Black Eagles aerobatic demonstration team flies nine supersonic T-50 Golden Eagle jet trainers built by Lockheed Martin and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI). The South Korean Defense Ministry confirmed the decision on Thursday and understands US government fears that sensitive technology would be vulnerable to Chinese snooping.

This would have also made it the first time a US defense treaty ally in the region had participated in the Zhuhai airshow with military equipment. Asked to comment, Eric Schnaible, Lockheed Martin’s T-50 spokesman, said, “it would be inappropriate for us to do so.”

KAI signed a $420 million deal with the Philippines for 12 TA-50 light attack jets/lead-in fighter trainers in March. The upgraded variant of the TA-50 can carry air-to-air missiles and air-to-ground missiles. The Philippines and China are in dispute over islands in the South China Sea and there have been fears the standoffs could ignite military conflict.

Chinese UAV companies will also be profiling their platforms and equipment. AVIC will exhibit the Tianyi-1 (Sky Wing), Yilong-1 (Pterodactyl), and Haixunzhe (Sea Patroller).

Robert Michelson, a UAV specialist at Millennial Vision, said the Sky Wing and Sea Patroller are “designed for potential military applications, or to test concepts on an unmanned platform.”

The Pterodactyl started out as a surveillance and aerial reconnaissance platform, “but as with the General Atomics Predator, which was obviously the inspiration for the design, the Pterodactyl has grown to be fitted with air-to-surface weapons for use in unmanned combat aerial vehicle scenarios.”

Defense News will be covering the airshow. ■

 

[cnleio]

We have 4 trillions foreign reserve, should go for 120 Plus of it to make PLAAF the most powerful airforce in Asia? Putin will be happy and PLAAF will be happy as well. They shall set up and 117s assembly line in CHina for easier maintenance.

China said J-20 mass production and joint PLAAF before 2020 (schedule 2017~2018), this is not a joke ! following strict schedule inside CASC。

Even China can pay for 120+ Su-35 fighters ... when Russian can deliver all to China ? To get some 117S jet engines much more meaningful than S-35s to China & PLAAF.

 

[帅的一匹]

never underestimate the Su35, it's a monster. we will have to face both USA and Japan in the east direction, we need 120 of it to reinforce our Air Force. those Russian manufacturers are desperate to get PO, production capacity is never a problem for them.

when China and Russia stand together we are undefeatable, just like what happened in Korean War. J10b is an excellent fighters but still I think the production speed is not fast enough to compensate those old inventories phased out.

 

[j20blackdragon]

never underestimate the Su35, it's a monster. we will have to face both USA and Japan in the east direction, we need 120 of it to reinforce our Air Force.

Absolutely unnecessary. A basic J-11B armed with PL-12D/PL-21 ramjet missiles with AWACS support will make mincemeat out of Japan.

 

[帅的一匹]

Absolutely unnecessary. A basic J-11B armed with PL-12D/PL-21 ramjet missiles with AWACS support will make mincemeat out of Japan.

i'm talking about the F35, non of our fighters is good enough to take on F35.

before J20 enter into service.

 

[j20blackdragon]

i'm talking about the F35, non of our fighters is good enough to take on F35.

before J20 enter into service.

The Su-35 would lose to the F-35. I say don't even bother if they have F-35s.

 

[帅的一匹]

Those SU35 we buy must modified per PLAAF request.

The Su-35 would lose to the F-35. I say don't even bother if they have F-35s.

not in dog fighter and with the help of AWACS.

 

[j20blackdragon]

not in dog fighter and with the help of AWACS.

It's the BVR combat before the dogfight that I'm worried about.