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Zardari becoming President would mean he would have to accept a crippled position, without 58-2b and leave the chairmainship of the PPP.

That won't happen.

Altaf bhai is smart. He's supporting the move because he knows this the the final blow you need to break PPP.

You got some of the points, Asif Ali Zardari has been made the appointee of the new President so he decides, also his sister has refused the slot for Presidency, yes as Asim said constitutionally the President doesn't have any political affiliation at all his speeches are written or moderated by the Parliament he cant make any political affiliations, which is what Musharraf basically never followed.

Altaf bhai has made sure he doesn't loose his ministers in Sindh, and he doesn't want his Governor to change too, there also have been reports of talks for ministers in center, he aint stupid when it comes to money and fame.:lol:
 
Pakistan is all set to be looted all over again. No sign of reinstating the judiciary.
 
oooooo another idiot on the hot seat..!!!
God forbidden if this happens i wish...aaaa...nuffin....i cant say anything of the kind to my country.

Well, theres one more possibility-you must have heard of..."DAIN KI DIKHA K BAIN KI MARNA.."

and you also know that Mr 10 AH is well capable of this...with the rumor of the next president being a women this one might again be just a lose air...he probably is thinking something bigger....
 

Islamabad, Aug 21 : While MQM chief Altaf Hussain, who lives in exile in London, has supported PPP Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari’s candidature for the post of Pakistan President, former premier Nawaz Sharif’s party the PML-N has said that it needed to be consulted before the name for the next President was proposed by the ruling coalition as it was one of partners.

In a press release issued from London, Hussain said that Zardari needed to be appreciated for how he handled Musharraf’s impeachment issue, and that his party wanted Zardari as president because of his “past sacrifices”.

On the other hand, reacting to Zardari’s nomination as candidate for Presidency by the PPP, PML-N spokesman Siddiqul Farooq said that his party’s principle stance was that the next president should be from a smaller province. He, however, said that it was the right of the PPP to nominate Zardari as a presidential candidate, “but they will have to consult the coalition partners to get the nomination approved”.

Earlier, in the day, the biggest coalition partner the PPP decided to nominate Zardari as the next president of the country. The decision had been taken by the top hierarchy of the PPP and the party’s Central Executive Committee (CEC) would formally announce the decision after its meeting on Friday, the Daily Times quoted a source close to Zardari House as saying.

“The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) will endorse and second the PPP CEC’s recommendation to nominate Asif Zardari as a presidential candidate,” the source added.

He said that in return for its support to the PPP, the MQM would continue to hold the office of Sindh Governor besides joining the coalition in the Centre and accepting ministerial slots in the federal cabinet at a later stage.

It has also been learnt that the PPP expects the Awami National Party (ANP) and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) to also support the PPP CEC’s recommendation.

The PML-N, however, wants the next president from Balochistan or NWFP. But the PPP hierarchy insists that the top offices in the country are a right of the major political party.

PML-N spokesman Siddiqul Farooq said that though it was the PPP’s right to nominate Zardari as a presidential candidate, “but they will have to consult the coalition partners to get the nomination approved”. (ANI)
 
Date set for Pakistan election

August 22, 2008

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will hold a presidential election on September 6, the election commission said today, following the resignation of Pervez Musharraf this week.

Musharraf, a key US ally, stood down on Monday after nine years in power in order to avoid the threat of impeachment by the ruling coalition government.

“Presidential elections will be held on September 6. The nomination papers can be filed from August 26,” election commission secretary Kanwar Dilshad told a news conference.

Nomination papers will be scrutinised on August 28 and the final date for any withdrawals will be August 30, Dilshad added.

The new president will be elected by a simultaneous sitting of the upper and lower houses of the national parliament and the four provincial assemblies, he said.

MPs of the party of slain former premier Benazir Bhutto, the biggest party in the coalition, have urged her widower Asif Ali Zardari to stand for president but he has not said whether he will do so.

The Australian, News from Australia's National Newspaper
 
Man i tell you this, if Zardari THE MR 10% become the president of Pakistan, and Pakistani nation doesn't react on it! I will be the first Person to cancel my Pakistani citizenship because i will be so disgrace to be called Pakistani. I would never accept him as a president since is is the most curropted scum bag. A person who lived in jail for 8 years and enterd Pakistani on NRO!!!! forget it god Bless Pakistan... and i hate those who support him i hate everysingle person who support him. FREEDOM OF SPEECH! "Democracy" ;)
 
You got some of the points, Asif Ali Zardari has been made the appointee of the new President so he decides, also his sister has refused the slot for Presidency, yes as Asim said constitutionally the President doesn't have any political affiliation at all his speeches are written or moderated by the Parliament he cant make any political affiliations, which is what Musharraf basically never followed.

Altaf bhai has made sure he doesn't loose his ministers in Sindh, and he doesn't want his Governor to change too, there also have been reports of talks for ministers in center, he aint stupid when it comes to money and fame.:lol:
Mark my words. The day when Zardari gives up chairmanship of the PPP and becomes President, there would be an obvious opening to exploit.

Whoever becomes the next chairman, might just do the infamous Pakistani kalti, we're so used to in politics.
 
By ROBIN McDOWELL, AP
5 minutes ago

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan's main ruling party on Friday proposed the widower of assassinated former premier Benazir Bhutto as Pakistan's next president.

The move makes Asif Ali Zardari the clear front-runner to fill the leadership vacuum created by the resignation of U.S. ally Pervez Musharraf on Monday.

It also could hasten the collapse of a ruling coalition that has struggled to tackle the growing strength of Taliban militants.

Pakistan's election commission announced Friday that federal and provincial lawmakers will elect Musharraf's successor in simultaneous votes on Sept. 6. Candidates must file their nomination papers on Aug. 26.

Sherry Rehman, a spokeswoman for the Pakistan People's Party, said the backing for Zardari at a meeting of its top decision-making body on Friday was unanimous.

"If the major political party believes that he is the most talented person, then he is the most eligible person for this post," said Nabeel Gabol, another party leader.

"Now it depends on him whether he himself becomes (president) or nominates someone else," Gabol said.

Rehman said Zardari told the gathering that he would announce whether to accept the nomination within 24 hours.

Zardari has played down his ambitions in public. However, he has done nothing to prevent a growing band of backers from touting his name for as post. Analysts say he looks assured of victory if he runs.

Zardari leads a coalition that swept Musharraf's supporters aside in February parliamentary elections.

The alliance vowed to strip the presidency of the powers accumulated by Musharraf, including the right to dissolve parliament and appoint the chiefs of Pakistan's powerful military.

But it quickly became mired in wrangling over other issues, principally how to restore judges purged from the Supreme Court when Musharraf imposed a burst of emergency rule last year.

Nawaz Sharif, who leads the second-largest party in the coalition, has threatened to go into opposition if the judges are not restored quickly.

However, Zardari appears to be lining up alternative allies, some of whom have already called for him to be president, in order to keep control of the government.
 

Mr Zardari is making a straight bid for the presidency. His decision follows Mr Nawaz Sharif’s refusal to help him pass a constitutional amendment restoring the judges according to some objective and non-partisan parliamentary criteria, indemnifying the ancient regime of President Pervez Musharraf and abolishing the extraordinary powers of the president accumulated under Article 58-2(b) of the constitution. Mr Sharif’s position is that the pre-November 3 situation must first be attained and then issues of constitutionalism can be discussed. But this is politically unfeasible since Mr Zardari can hardly have a non-PPP person sitting in the presidency armed with 58-2(b) as a veritable sword of Damocles over the head of the PPP governments at the centre and three provinces. If Mr Sharif had been less inflexible, then we could have had a constitutional amendment many months ago as proposed by Mr Zardari to resolve the issue of both the judges and the powers of the president in one sitting and the country need not have gone through the agony of the last few months trying to get rid of General (retd) Musharraf in such a long drawn out and convulsive manner.

Accordingly, the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) is going public in its resolve to make its co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari the next president of Pakistan. The report is that the party central executive committee (CEC) will today formalise the general voice of the rank and file for Mr Zardari as President of Pakistan. If it is the small province of Sindh that Mr Zardari will represent, the MQM is fully lined up behind him. First, Mr Zardari praised the MQM for helping the coalition government in mounting a campaign for the impeachment of President Musharraf; then Mr Altaf Hussain from London recommended that he be the next president. We gather that the ANP and JUI are also on board.

Therefore all the ducks are finally lined up in a row. The PPP and its coalition partners in all the provinces excluding Punjab have the majority vote in the collegium that elects the president. Equally significantly, he is the only man in the political system who can communicate with all the components of it, including the military establishment with whom he has worked out safe passage for General (retd) Pervez Musharraf and with which he needs to work closely on the war on terror in order to keep Washington in the right humour. So far, his strategy of appeasement with the PMLN has also forced the second echelon leadership of both the parties to hold their guns and not let the past antagonism come surging back. He has handled the inflexible Mr Nawaz Sharif right by using resilience in the face of the “pledged” party position of the latter on the judges issue. Of course, if Mr Sharif decides to walk out of the coalition now, he will not have any of the other political players in the political dispensation with him.

The original ambivalence with regard to the presidency sprang from Mr Zardari himself when he told a TV interviewer point-blank that “Asif Ali Zardari is not a candidate”. But that sort of thing happens in politics all the time — people resign, retract and threaten one deadline after another — and is meant to be ignored, in this case as soon as the PPP CEC tells him to take the office. Other bits will fall in place. If the irreducible condition is that the next president be from the PPP, the next question is which province should he be from? The consensus seems to be that he should be from one of the smaller provinces. But that includes Sindh too.

The prime minister is from Punjab, therefore the president can be from Sindh. Two former members of the Supreme Court are being named as candidates, rather unfairly to the PPP because both have disagreed with the ruling party on how to restore the judges deposed by General (retd) Musharraf. And the president must be in office within a month of the office falling vacant. There is also the suggestion that Balochistan’s senior politician Sardar Attaullah Mengal be considered. While it may be good for politics of reconciliation with Balochistan, Mr Mengal’s vision for the federation may not fit the present constitutional framework. In any case, as long as Article 58-2(b) is around, only Mr Zardari will fit the political bill.

The president remains a crucial link between the civilian order and the armed forces. As noted above, Mr Zardari’s main use for Pakistan is his ability to communicate with and placate all the stakeholders in the power structure. Not used to this level of flexibility of approach, commentators have often dismissed him as a “delayer” of decisions leading to governmental “dysfunction”. But the fact is that even after the trouble that came from the non-execution of the Murree Agreement, he was able to carry the PMLN along. And he has eased President Musharraf out without getting on the wrong side of the army.

There are other signs that suggest his bid for the presidency is realistic. After another deadlock with the PMLN on the question of the restoration of he judges, he has been able to carry the other two coalition partners, JUIF and ANP, with him. The two parties have undertaken to break the deadlock and find a midway solution. It is also very clear that despite all the negative media coverage, Mr Zardari continues to enjoy traction even with elements who are supposed to dislike and fear him in our strictly Machiavellian political environment.

The chattering classes won’t like this development for personal reasons just as they didn’t like the bureaucrat Ghulam Ishaq Khan and the bearded Justice (retd) Rafiq Tarrar as president when Nawaz Sharif was in power. But realpolitik remains the name of the game. *
 

Analysis: Mehreen Zahra-Malik

If it is accepted that Mr Zardari assigns a higher value to not restoring the judges; and if it is also accepted that Mr Sharif will not climb down and let the issue be handled through a broader Constitutional amendment, then one course open to Mr Zardari is to allow the Constitutional anomalies to remain where they are — not only that, but to keep everyone in line, elevate himself as president and use those powers to his advantage

Today, Friday, the Pakistan People’s Party’s Central Executive Committee is going to take the decision to nominate party co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari to contest for the office of the President of Pakistan. What that decision might be is an almost foregone conclusion.

MQM supremo Altaf Hussain has already asked Mr Zardari to present himself for the job and requested the PPP as well as other coalition partners to support Mr Zardari’s nomination. Several PPP leaders have spoken up and talked about it even as Mr Zardari himself, until recently, has rejected that possibility on more than one occasion.

What is going on?

Let’s posit the question slightly differently. Why would anyone, least of all Mr Zardari want to become president if that office were shorn of its current powers; powers, that, to be precise, have been considered inimical to the spirit of parliamentary democracy and which dilute the authority of the prime minister and his cabinet?

Not only that, these powers — chairing the National Security Council, appointing services chiefs, using 58 2 b to send the parliament packing — were injected into the Constitution by a general whose actions have been deemed illegitimate by political actors across the board.

In the past several months, part of the coalition’s struggle against Musharraf has been about curtailing the powers of the president. Indeed, the PPP has announced at several forums that it is determined to cut back the powers of the presidency by pushing proposed constitutional amendments through parliament.

Addressing the National Assembly after Musharraf’s resignation as president, the PPP Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani said that Gen Musharraf’s exit was a historic event because it marked parliament’s sovereignty: “Today, parliament has become sovereign. We can hold our head up high in the world and say that we, too, are a democracy.”

Part of this sovereignty is about cutting back the powers of the president. Indeed, about the future, the triumphant Mr Gilani said the government had never accepted the 17th constitutional amendment or Article 58 2 b of the constitution: “There should be a balance of power. We don’t accept institutions which are not accountable to this house [parliament].”

If Mr Zardari now wants to be president, it should be clear that the presidential powers will stay in the Constitution at least in the foreseeable future. Mr Zardari is not interested in the bark; it’s the bite that matters.

So, what has changed?

Much, it would seem. Consider.

The PPP’s coalition partner, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, has shown itself to be completely inflexible on a whole range of issues. General (retd) Pervez Musharraf is gone but the judges’ issue still hangs fire. Mr Sharif thinks that he has effectively coerced Mr Zardari into getting rid of Gen Musharraf and can repeat the performance on the restoration of the judges. This may be a miscalculation if we read the situation in conjunction with Mr Zardari’s intention to become president.

It was easier to get rid of Gen Musharraf; he had become controversial and at some point had to be expended. If one looks at where Mr Zardari’s stakes lay in relation to the two issues that underpinned Mr Sharif’s intransigence, it should be clear that he would have sacrificed Gen Musharraf to get Mr Sharif to fall in line on the judges’ issue.

Ridding Gen Musharraf only required an assurance from the army that the GHQ would not intervene if the general were given a safe exit. Once that became clear, Mr Zardari could own up to Mr Sharif’s cause and get on with the business of putting the squeeze on the general. On that score we know what has happened.

But what about the judges? That is a whole lot different, not just because of the National Reconciliation Ordinance, but also because of the ever-present possibility of the deposed Chief Justice of Pakistan forcing the government to come to a grinding halt. Mr Zardari knows now that Mr Sharif will continue to be relentless.

Mr Sharif wants the judges restored with an executive order before the coalition can get down to amending the Constitution to cleanse it of its anomalies. Mr Zardari wants the judges restored as part of the Constitutional amendment.

This is the point at which realpolitik trumps democratic rhetoric.

Mr Zardari can capitulate and let Mr Sharif emerge from all this drama as the custodian of democracy; or, he can ensure that Mr Sharif makes shipwreck on the rocks of realpolitik.

If it is accepted that Mr Zardari assigns a higher value to not restoring the judges; and if it is also accepted that Mr Sharif will not climb down and let the issue be handled through a broader Constitutional amendment, then one course open to Mr Zardari is to allow the Constitutional anomalies to remain where they are — not only that, but to keep everyone in line, elevate himself as president and use those powers to his advantage.

This goes against the grain of what the PPP has been saying so far but it also underlines the tension built into the coalition. Moreover, if Mr Zardari does go ahead with his plan to become president, it shows how little has really changed despite the democracy rhetoric.

Insiders know that Mr Sharif has demanded that the current Punjab governor be changed and in his stead a leading light of the lawyers’ movement be placed in the Governor’s House. If true, it proves the argument about the simmering nature of relations between the two major parties. The current governor, Salmaan Taseer, addressed a press conference Thursday calling upon Mr Zardari to become the president.

The coalition is thus headed towards a collision. If Mr Sharif doesn’t bite, Mr Zardari will try to outflank him through this move. As president, Mr Zardari will be within his constitutional right (Article 89, Clause 1) to promulgate an ordinance upholding the NRO; as ruling party, the PPP has the numbers to turn any such ordinance into law.

The PPP could also link up with other parties to isolate the PMLN. This could also spell trouble in the Punjab where the PPP might want to upstage the PMLN, though if the PMLQ forward bloc were to join up with the PMLN, that move may prove abortive.

At the minimum, we could see a repeat of Ms Benazir Bhutto’s first tenure when the Centre and the Punjab clashed. If things really hot up, Mr Zardari could use his power to wrap up the system. Whether that would lead to a more stable system is anybody’s guess.

The writer is News Editor, The Friday Times, and a doctoral student in the United States
 
Mark my words. The day when Zardari gives up chairmanship of the PPP and becomes President, there would be an obvious opening to exploit.

Whoever becomes the next chairman, might just do the infamous Pakistani kalti, we're so used to in politics.

PPP has already handed the future Chairmanship to Bilawal. Who will fight now and if something happens to him the PPP will select its next chairman which I believe would come from the four provinces of which there are four PPP chairmans of.

Trust me take my word Zardari will never take Presidential road.
 
Bhutto widower in presidency bid

Asif Ali Zardari is to run for the presidency of Pakistan, says his Pakistan People's Party (PPP), the biggest in the coalition government.

The announcement was made by a senior party official.

On Friday, the PPP nominated Mr Zardari, the widower of assassinated former PM Benazir Bhutto, to be the country's president.

Parliament is due to vote next month to replace President Pervez Musharraf, who resigned on Monday.

Link:BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Bhutto widower in presidency bid

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! :hitwall: :angry: :hitwall:

Well not really this was coming to be honest.

:chilli: Let the Reign of Mr 10% begin. :chilli:

P.S. Whoever votes for him is an idiot.
 
Here is Nawaz Sharifs view:

Asif Zardari acceptable as president if 17th amendment removed: Nawaz Sharif LAHORE, Aug 23 (AFP): Former premier Nawaz Sharif Saturday said he was ready to accept the Asif Ali Zardari as president if he does away with powers to dissolve parliament. Former president Pervez Musharraf had strengthened his powers through a 17th constitutional amendment, which gave the president the power to dismiss the government and dissolve parliament. Zardari won the unanimous backing of Pakistan People's Party (PPP) lawmakers Friday but has yet to announce if he will stand in the September 6 poll. Sharif made his comments after a PPP delegation met him to solicit his support for Zardari in the election. “I have no objection over Mr. Zardari contesting presidential election, if he removes the 17th amendment,” Sharif told reporters at his residence after meeting the PPP delegation led by Information Minister Sherry Rehman. Sharif said he had a firm agreement with Zardari on the reinstatement of the deposed judges and clarified that neither he nor anyone from his party wanted to become president. “The agreement says that next president will be elected after removing the 17th amendment. The PPP will then have a right to nominate its own president,” Sharif said. Sharif said Zardari had also agreed that the deposed judges would be reinstated within 24 hours of Pervez Musharraf’s impeachment or resignation and lamented that the agreement had not been honoured. “It had been agreed that when Musharraf would resign or get impeached, judges were to be reinstated automatically within 24 hours,” Sharif said and added that he had given a new ultimatum to Zardari. “We have asked them to tell us by Saturday night whether or not judges can be reinstated on Monday or not,” Sharif said. He said he was flexible over Monday's deadline previously because the presidential election schedule had not been announced and it was announced without asking him when he was addressing a press conference Friday. Reuters adds: Sharif was non-committal on Zardari's nomination, saying he had to discuss the matter with his party. But he said he wanted the presidency stripped of the power to dismiss parliament. But if the presidency retained that crucial power, then Sharif said he wanted to see a neutral president. “It should be someone who is a national figure, has national stature and is non-partisan,” he told a news conference.

Link: DAWN - Leading English Newspaper of Pakistan covering national & international news -Front Page; August 23, 2008
 
Very sad day for Pakistan. From a Dictator to a thief.
 
LAHORE, Aug 23 (AFP): Former premier Nawaz Sharif Saturday said he was ready to accept the Asif Ali Zardari as president if he does away with powers to dissolve parliament. Former president Pervez Musharraf had strengthened his powers through a 17th constitutional amendment, which gave the president the power to dismiss the government and dissolve parliament. Zardari won the unanimous backing of Pakistan People's Party (PPP) lawmakers Friday but has yet to announce if he will stand in the September 6 poll. Sharif made his comments after a PPP delegation met him to solicit his support for Zardari in the election. “I have no objection over Mr. Zardari contesting presidential election, if he removes the 17th amendment,” Sharif told reporters at his residence after meeting the PPP delegation led by Information Minister Sherry Rehman. Sharif said he had a firm agreement with Zardari on the reinstatement of the deposed judges and clarified that neither he nor anyone from his party wanted to become president. “The agreement says that next president will be elected after removing the 17th amendment. The PPP will then have a right to nominate its own president,” Sharif said. Sharif said Zardari had also agreed that the deposed judges would be reinstated within 24 hours of Pervez Musharraf’s impeachment or resignation and lamented that the agreement had not been honoured. “It had been agreed that when Musharraf would resign or get impeached, judges were to be reinstated automatically within 24 hours,” Sharif said and added that he had given a new ultimatum to Zardari. “We have asked them to tell us by Saturday night whether or not judges can be reinstated on Monday or not,” Sharif said. He said he was flexible over Monday's deadline previously because the presidential election schedule had not been announced and it was announced without asking him when he was addressing a press conference Friday. Reuters adds: Sharif was non-committal on Zardari's nomination, saying he had to discuss the matter with his party. But he said he wanted the presidency stripped of the power to dismiss parliament. But if the presidency retained that crucial power, then Sharif said he wanted to see a neutral president. “It should be someone who is a national figure, has national stature and is non-partisan,” he told a news conference. (First Posted @ 14:40 PST Updated @ 19:30 PST)
- DAWN - Latest Stories; August 23, 2008
 
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