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Zardari Nawaz Kiyani Shakeel Hamid Raheel ---All Together---???

The only reason a General like Kayani or Raheel would defend the country is because their own empire of luxuries is under threat not because they care about the people. If Pakistan is gone, so are their luxuries and luxuries of the predecessors who are the same breed of industrialists capitalists and feudals.

Pasha remained silent and worked for CIA as he had no other option. Kayani sold the country with Noora and Zardari gang while Musharraf sold the country himself. Every bastard sold the country at every era.
 
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Circumstances were created by Kiyani's incompetence---he was the person totally incharge under Gen Musharraf---.

He should have understood the consequences of the US not killing OBL given multiple opportunities and being allowed to escape int pakistan---.

He shoul dhave known that was intentionally done by the US to stage him for a later date---.

Kiyani---when the quiet man kept his mouth shut after the US tsupposedly took out OBL---Kiyani and Pasha should be hanged for treason against the state by keeping their mouths shut---. The quiet man kept quiet when pakistan was being bashed around the world regarding OBL---.

Pakistani's image forever tarnished and people strutting around Kiyani claiming victories of his QUIET strategies---.

Haha, well you must all be right considering the facts on ground at the time may be, but let me tell you something you guys might not be aware of. Kayani kept very frequent contact with a genuine spiritual mentor, throughout the very tough years of his tenure, to seek foresight/insight into the issues of the time. Again we will see many things come to the fore in the very near future that would make people chant his name in jalsas and rallies.
 
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Don't think we are third world any more.

Third World and the other two designations do not refer to wealth or power; they are Cold War era designations meant to depict alliances. First World meant US allies, Second World referred to the Soviet Bloc and its allies, Third World meant non-aligned and/or post-colonial states. So yes, Pakistan is a third world country and will remain even if it rises to the top in terms of GDP per capita.
 
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this is habit of our media that when one general retires they start criticizing them but not have courage to speak when he was army chief,same will happen with gen bajwa when he retires from army chief office
 
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Wrist slitters, fapping together LoL you guys are hilarious, instead of crying and whining all the time what have you done personally.....yeah right...thought so.


Please go elsewhere---. Never brought anything worthwhile to the forum and just looking important---.

Haha, well you must all be right considering the facts on ground at the time may be, but let me tell you something you guys might not be aware of. Kayani kept very frequent contact with a genuine spiritual mentor, throughout the very tough years of his tenure, to seek foresight/insight into the issues of the time. Again we will see many things come to the fore in the very near future that would make people chant his name in jalsas and rallies.

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Should we now take Bait on that person's hands---Bull sh-it---. Kiyani was a gutless coward---. My brother told Mush not to promote him---he is a ranker's son---. Don't trust him---.

Kiyani first gave Zardari to Pakistan---then sabotaged pakistan thru OBL and then Nawaz Sharif---.
 
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Please go elsewhere---. Never brought anything worthwhile to the forum and just looking important---.



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Should we now take Bait on that person's hands---Bull sh-it---. Kiyani was a gutless coward---. My brother told Mush not to promote him---he is a ranker's son---. Don't trust him---.

Kiyani first gave Zardari to Pakistan---then sabotaged pakistan thru OBL and then Nawaz Sharif---.

LoL mr yankee taxi driver, go and cry at the democratic convention, just a bitter old loser, I pity you mate.
 
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Raheel couldn't do it openly because he didn't want a Marshall law in the country that time and rightly so that is why alternate measures were taken to outsed Nawaz Sharif from the scene i.e Panama case and making sure that pti forms a govt after them. All the planning was done during Raheel Sharif tenure and competed under Bajwa so I don't understand why O. p is blaming Raheel Shareef. 2014 dharna at D chowk was a warning to Nawaz Sharif to get their act straight but he didn't listened. Foreign policy during pmln tenure was virtually made non existence.
 
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PDF ka Haqeeqat TV channel our old Mastan Khan, every now and this channel bring forward unverified crap while Moderators Allow that , using foul languages against the Army and its personnel , Kill switches , and many other conspiracy .. I literally destroyed this old man in a thread after the 27th Feb PAF retaliatory attacks , than this Baba goes into hibernation and now he is back with new kinds of Chawal's , some PDFians believe this baba more than they believe themselves, just because he call everyone " KIDS " :lol: , Oh Baba Khayal Rakhi Apna, Mask pehno and aur Din mai 4 bar Sabon se hath dhona .
 
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LoL mr yankee taxi driver, go and cry at the democratic convention, just a bitter old loser, I pity you mate.

Oayay---koi gali tay changi sari dey-----.

Man---if you want to say something---say something real nasty humiliating and degrading like your other pakistani brothers---.

Why insult the poor hard working pakistani taxi drivers who help send so much foreign exchange to pakistan---.

@Rafi ---that comment of yours about ' taxi drivers " was absolutely pathetic and disgusting---. Your true pakistani self came out and here---you are the praise of the board---wow---.
 
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Oayay---koi gali tay changi sari dey-----.

Man---if you want to say something---say something real nasty humiliating and degrading like your other pakistani brothers---.

Why insult the poor hard working pakistani taxi drivers who help send some much foreign exchange to pakistan---.

You insult my brothers in arms, me and you gonna have a problem sonny.
 
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Hi,

When Banazir made her infamous speech at Harvard of handing over pakistani assets when she came to power showed that she had sold out pakistan to return to power.

After she got assassinated---Kiyani accepted the most hated person zardari to be the president of pakistan.

I had stated that at that time on this forum and am going to say it again---Zardari---Nawaz / Shabaz had sold out out pakistan to the US and india---. Zardari to the US---Nawaz sold out to India and Kiyani was the first facilitator and Gen Raheel Sharif became the second facilitator of this deceit.

There were then some people in the media who had also teamed up with both the political leadership---namely---Mir Shakeel and Hamid Mir as well---along with quite a few other anchors that included some high level High Court judges as well playing on the Nawaz team.

Nawaz had two or three major plans---to make sure tha---

He does not respond when India claims to the world that pakistan is a terrorist state---. Nawaz never ever countered anything to the contrary---.

Case in point Kalbhoshan Yadev for one---and prior to that Ajmal Kasab aka "supposed mumbai terrorist"---.

To take as much useless loans as was possible so that pakistan would be buried under their weight and would have go give away their nuc to get out from under the burden---.

These loans would not be industrial by nature but for useles projects like national highways local trains like the orange line---bus services etc etc etc---.

Through all this deceit deception and plunder of pakistan---the military command kept quiet---as a matter of fact it was in cohoots with Zardari and Nawaz families---both the Generals Kiyani and Raheel---.

Throughout our existence---our military has been the balancing force between anti pakistan element in power and national interest---but this time the generals also stood in lineto let the image and identity of pakistan be smashed in front of the world from where there was no come back---.

One time foreign office spokes person Tasneem Aslam verified in her interview on ARY news network that no one was allowed to speak against India or indian terrorist activities against or Kalbhoshan Yadev in the foreign office.

No one could speak against India at---.

Now that bring some serious concerns about the standings of Gen Kiyani and Gen Raheel Sharif and other generals in the top positions---. Why did they not speak up or act against Nawaz Sharif---.

Looks like Pak generals were also in cohoots with the Sharif family---.



Hi so the Pakistani generals were in line with India and USA? Sad because of Pakistani generals USA was able to win entire Afghanistan and India was able to take back AJK from Pakistan?

You don't know how the game of deceptions is even played. Yes India was able to recruit Nawaz but Pakistan was able to recruit Modi at the same time and trump as well.

Lets see the result of this great game in today's terms.

India burning and defamed around the world. Indian economic growth went from 7% to 3.4% Indian Air force humiliated by PAF on modis order. 80% of Indian make in India defence projects have stalled.

Coming to USA yes pentagon recruited Nawaz but Pakistan recruited trum and result?

From do more to peace deal.

Hope I explain my self. In the end what matters is results.
 
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You are a joke . Interview is about Nawaz Sharif and u are bringing Army in it . Hamid Mir attack ( 2014 ) , Dawn leaks ( 2016 ) , Khalai Makhlooq ( 2017-2018 ) we remember all that . You have one problem with General Raheel Shareef i.e not joining Yemen War ( around 2015 ) which was good decision because we had mess at our own house at that time i.e ( APS attack ) , Zarb E Azb operation was not even in the middle plus now looking at the results of Yemen War . General Kayani was 1st general after General Pervez Musharraf ( image of army was not good that time , Iftkhar Chaudhry, Lal Masjid operation , Bugti killing and TTP emergence were all new while Benazir was killed what would he have done to make u happy . I feel pity for u . Dont share your stupid ideas without evidence against Army Chiefs of Pakistan atleast .
 
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You insult my brothers in arms, me and you gonna have a problem sonny.

Screw you---brothers in arms---.

Hi so the Pakistani generals were in line with India and USA? Sad because of Pakistani generals USA was able to win entire Afghanistan and India was able to take back AJK from Pakistan?

You don't know how the game of deceptions is even played. Yes India was able to recruit Nawaz but Pakistan was able to recruit Modi at the same time and trump as well.

Lets see the result of this great game in today's terms.

India burning and defamed around the world. Indian economic growth went from 7% to 3.4% Indian Air force humiliated by PAF on modis order. 80% of Indian make in India defence projects have stalled.

Coming to USA yes pentagon recruited Nawaz but Pakistan recruited trum and result?

From do more to peace deal.

Hope I explain my self. In the end what matters is results.

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Kiyani was american---not Raheel Sharif---. It was with Kiyani's permission that Zardari became president---.

After OBL demise---the only thing that Kiyani needed to do was openly state that the US acted with the pakistan military to take out pakistan---.

Kiyani let pakistan's image be smashed to a pulp on the world forum and would not change for the next few decades---.

That was simply the worst thing to happen to pakistan after all the sacrifices that Pakistan and pakistani military has given---.

When pakistan needed someone to take a stand Gen Kiyani was not their to give it support---.

Raheel Sharif just let Nawaz get away destroying pakistan economically---.

You are a joke . Interview is about Nawaz Sharif and u are bringing Army in it . Hamid Mir attack ( 2014 ) , Dawn leaks ( 2016 ) , Khalai Makhlooq ( 2017-2018 ) we remember all that . You have one problem with General Raheel Shareef i.e not joining Yemen War ( around 2015 ) which was good decision because we had mess at our own house at that time i.e ( APS attack ) , Zarb E Azb operation was not even in the middle plus now looking at the results of Yemen War . General Kayani was 1st general after General Pervez Musharraf ( image of army was not good that time , Iftkhar Chaudhry, Lal Masjid operation , Bugti killing and TTP emergence were all new while Benazir was killed what would he have done to make u happy . I feel pity for u . Dont share your stupid ideas without evidence against Army Chiefs of Pakistan atleast .

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Why was the army image bad---because the army fckd up bad---. Openly started giving TV licenses to channels without any checks and balances---.

Pakistan has more open channels than USA and UK put together and they are all talking against the pakistan---.

The military allowed the media to sabotage pakistan's integrity---allowed idiots to come on the live tv shows and talked negative about the doings of the military---.

Media mughals kept talking about US creating own scene of toppling twin towers---but no one talked about how to stop this monster known as the US military to invade a muslim nation---.

All of you guys were busy talking about the american taking down the twin towers---.

But none of you had the intelligence of how to stop the US army in a timely manner---.

Pak army generals wanted to make a Vietnam of the US military in AFG---. These generals build their palaces over the dead bodies of innocent afghans--.

If afghan invasion had been stopped---. Iraq invasion would not have gone thru---.

APS school attack or other attacks---at that time you did not want to believe that TTP would attack muslims---you were busy blaming indians for that and other outsiders---.

As for Bugti---he had started and insurrection---he was old---he was in physical pain---he wanted to die like a Lion which he did---he was a warrior all his life and died a warrior in the nd---so what was the big deal---.

As for red mosque---that masjid is built on property stolen by the mosque management---. That mosque is haram in its form---.

Again the military fckd up in its action---. It let the media openly talk to everyone and incited violence---.

You want to know how it is done---then read up how the FBI acted against David Koresh in texas---.

It was Red Mosque USA---. Someone from David Koresh side fired at the FBI killed an agent---the FBI lit fire to the compound and burnt David Koresh---his followers---women and children alive inside the building---media was no allowed to get close and no phones were allowed---no one could communicate with Koresh---.

And over here---everyone was talking to everyone else---. Maulana was on the media---after the military action---the idiot general allowed the media inside---who incited further hatred by showing burnt pages of Qura'an---.

Madrassah women were allowed on the TV---again inciting further violence---.

Pak military should have held onto all the boys girls men and women students in a holding area for months and re-educated them as pakistani citizens---.

It is me who pities you and your likes---Jahil Dangar Qaum---.
 
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Hi,

Kiyani was american---not Raheel Sharif---. It was with Kiyani's permission that Zardari became president---.

After OBL demise---the only thing that Kiyani needed to do was openly state that the US acted with the pakistan military to take out pakistan---.

Kiyani let pakistan's image be smashed to a pulp on the world forum and would not change for the next few decades---.

That was simply the worst thing to happen to pakistan after all the sacrifices that Pakistan and pakistani military has given---.

When pakistan needed someone to take a stand Gen Kiyani was not their to give it support---.

Raheel Sharif just let Nawaz get away destroying pakistan economically---.

Lol.

Okay let's be hypothatical and say they did all that and what was the out come. Because of Kiyani USA got deceived and had to leave Afghanistan and because of Raheel sharif image of Pakistans economy got destroyed and Modi won and whole India is burning. So still you lose the argument.

Do you think that joining the name of army chiefs will give a division of the blame to army. No it will not. Kiyani never brought zardari. The death of Benazir brought him. I remember that elections very well. It was a land sliding victory for pppp. Yousif Raza gilani pledged half of his multan house to fight elections.

Army is not ruler in Pakistan they are servants of this nation. Politicians are rulers and they take immoral decisions. Learn to call a horse a horse and donkey a donkey.

Raheel sharif was with Nawaz? Raheel was army chief and Nawaz was PM so don't blame the servant for the mistakes of rulers.
 
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