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Your stink is what you smell at sea

While dumping sewage in sea is a poor practice, you don't really smell your stink at sea, for sea is too big to turn into a gutter.
 
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Yes that was true...Karachi was lovely now I just feel like flushing every politician there washing their mouths in the very river they pollute!

Well in this case you see politicians are not the only ones to be blamed for making Karachi what it is today.
 
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Well in this case you see politicians are not the only ones to be blamed for making Karachi what it is today.
Yes but they have a responsibility and take oaths and whatnot...Do you know the porphet said that the leader/ ruler will also be asked about the nation's shortcomings? This is why I am shocked at how stupid people want to run for politics to take the weight of their own sins plus that of a nations!

People are illiterate, govt doesnt provide schooling, awareness programs nor even proper sanitation such as garbage collectors, proper toilets and stuff...To top that we dont have proper treatment plants as OP says out of the 3 the last one just broke and no one cares to revive it or even the first 2 which broke! Heck it is a far cry for them to make a new one as the population IS GROWING!

So yes 80% of the shit is the govt's fault....Then we have 20% of our own ignorance stupidity (for the educated ignorant) and illiteracy + ignorance (for the illiterate)

While dumping sewage in sea is a poor practice, you don't really smell your stink at sea, for sea is too big to turn into a gutter.
I think the OP meant shoreline joining Karachi!
 
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Yes but they have a responsibility and take oaths and whatnot...Do you know the porphet said that the leader/ ruler will also be asked about the nation's shortcomings? This is why I am shocked at how stupid people want to run for politics to take the weight of their own sins plus that of a nations!

People are illiterate, govt doesnt provide schooling, awareness programs nor even proper sanitation such as garbage collectors, proper toilets and stuff...To top that we dont have proper treatment plants as OP says out of the 3 the last one just broke and no one cares to revive it or even the first 2 which broke! Heck it is a far cry for them to make a new one as the population IS GROWING!

So yes 80% of the shit is the govt's fault....Then we have 20% of our own ignorance stupidity (for the educated ignorant) and illiteracy + ignorance (for the illiterate)

You referred so would like to say that Prophet Muhammad's sharia was also not limited to stoning and lashes................... whereas sharia of Pakistanis mainly revolves around these two only. Do normal common Pakistani stop at red light in 2:00 am? Do they care while constructing houses not to extend and try to grab part of street or gali (just visit residential area in Kala pull in Karachi and you will see what I mean)? I think you have not met a government baboo yet, that stupid clerk if he gets a chance he will prove himself more competent at corruption than Zardari.

Politicians are corrupt I know but then again who elects them? Don't you support IK a new branch and business in politics whose team is full of same old thugs and their only achievement is to hold music concerts?

Sorry Government was never competent and honest but most of the people are equally corrupt and these incompetent governments make their day to day business easy.
 
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You referred so would like to say that Prophet Muhammad's sharia was also not limited to stoning and lashes...................
Of course not...Punishment was barely 12% of the Shariah code..

whereas sharia of Pakistanis mainly revolves around these two only.
I am aware...Why? Because it serves their purposes...Does it mean that it is right, no!

This will derail the thread so I will leave you with a video which is worth every second if you can watch it:
. Do normal common Pakistani stop at red light in 2:00 am? Do they care while constructing houses not to extend and try to grab part of street or gali (just visit residential area in Kala pull in Karachi and you will see what I mean)? I think you have not met a government baboo yet, that stupid clerk if he gets a chance he will prove himself more competent at corruption than Zardari.
And this is why again I can blame the stupid politicians for not enforcing the laws...the laws are available but no one wants to implement them...

Politicians are corrupt I know but then again who elects them? Don't you support IK a new branch and business in politics whose team is full of same old thugs and their only achievement is to hold music concerts?
I dont support any 1 politician it makes one a slave mind...I support anyone doing good for Pakistan but I will only support that action not the human being!

Sorry Government was never competent and honest but most of the people are equally corrupt and these incompetent governments make their day to day business easy.
THIS is why laws come in....make them strict implement them and then when people start learning govt is serious then only can we get much done! But when govt (esp crooks like policemen and like you said clerks ) themselves want methai why would the normal people not follow the tracks and make it the norm?
 
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Instead of spending $500 million on a fancy Islamabad - Rawalpindi Metro, why not spend instead on treatment plants and sewage disposal systems? Nawaz needs a re-look at his priorities.

Islamabad Metro is not by Federal Government but Buy Punjab Government and after 18th Amendment presented by PPP every Provincial Government are responsible for the Province and Federal is too busy and bother to look at Sindh....
 
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THIS is why laws come in....make them strict implement them and then when people start learning govt is serious then only can we get much done! But when govt (esp crooks like policemen and like you said clerks ) themselves want methai why would the normal people not follow the tracks and make it the norm?

Thanks for the video.

Why would the normal people not follow................................... so then normal people should not act as pious Muslims when it serves their purpose only. The tragedy is we keep our houses clean and for our streets we take the full responsibility of and consider it our basic right to litter.

Thandiani is a hill spot like Murree, I hail from there and I have personally seen people bringing packed food from Islamabad and Rawalpindi and throw leftovers there in open where they rest their rears and enjoy the scenery, that place has no janitorial staff, no watchmen, no police. The only thing that place has is the attitude of people visiting it. Those food wrappers could go back with people in their cars and disposed off at proper places but no it has to be thrown there as its that place's responsibility to deal with it, their responsibility was to honor that place with a visit.

Common sense is more important or education?
 
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Why would the normal people not follow...................................
Habit :p:

so then normal people should not act as pious Muslims when it serves their purpose only.
Well advising others is the easiest thing to do in the world...Look at Human rights champion USA always giving us tips which it never follows!

The tragedy is we keep our houses clean and for our streets we take the full responsibility of and consider it our basic right to litter.
I actually never understood this....Why dont we consider the roads and land ours too.....I wish awareness campaigns were increased (I know a few ads on tv, fb and stuff)

Thandiani is a hill spot like Murree, I hail from there and I have personally seen people bringing packed food from Islamabad and Rawalpindi and throw leftovers there in open where they rest their rears and enjoy the scenery, that place has no janitorial staff, no watchmen, no police.
I suggest locals start policing....without guns...Just tell those "tourists" off or put signs of 1000 Rs fine for every piece they leave behind! Another problem is there are no dustbins in sights...

I recall we went to some spot in Pakistan and I was a kid back then and saw someone throw some trash a few meters away from the dustbin and I was like....that guy has bad aim cant even score in the dustbin...He came back to pick up his trash to dump it in...Another time I had actually said maybe (another guy) is blind and missed the dustbin...

I know the same ignorant people would pick up after themselves in the West for fear of implemented laws! Well same should be done in Pakistan! Heck I usually put my garbage in my pockets wherever I see a dustbin I empty them!

Common sense is more important or education?
Both are equally important when I say jahil or ignorant that usually is ignorant about things like common sense!
 
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Thanks for the video once again, good watch and listening.

I suggest locals start policing....without guns...Just tell those "tourists" off or put signs of 1000 Rs fine for every piece they leave behind! Another problem is there are no dustbins in sights...!

Naaah, no sorry we have lived there peacefully for a very long time, Badtameezi mehmano k sath hum say na ho gi :p:. Absence of dustbins is no excuse. Simple solution is use your common sense you don't need to bring food to place that has already hotels available. No sense in buying food from "Savor" in Rawalpindi or Islamabad and bringing it to a place 3 hours away.
 
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Simple solution is use your common sense you don't need to bring food to place that has already hotels available. No sense in buying food from "Savor" in Rawalpindi or Islamabad and bringing it to a place 3 hours away.
:rofl: common sense is not very common :enjoy:
 
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Instead of spending $500 million on a fancy Islamabad - Rawalpindi Metro, why not spend instead on treatment plants and sewage disposal systems? Nawaz needs a re-look at his priorities.

That is good suggestion and Pakistani government should build waste treatment plants before discharging into rivers and sea. Well at least Arabian Sea is not holy to Pakistanis while the Holy Ganges river is polluted where half burned bodies, ashes, industrial waste, garbage and human waste is dumped. Then the same water from Ganges is being used for drinking and bathing. In Banaras Hindu pilgrim take bath in Ganges while few meters away half burned bodies floats in the river.
 
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That is good suggestion and Pakistani government should build waste treatment plants before discharging into rivers and sea. Well at least Arabian Sea is not holy to Pakistanis while the Holy Ganges river is polluted where half burned bodies, ashes, industrial waste, garbage and human waste is dumped. Then the same water from Ganges is being used for drinking and bathing. In Banaras Hindu pilgrim take bath in Ganges while few meters away half burned bodies floats in the river.
1st line was enough rest was not necessary :)
 
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