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Yongxing Island: China’s Diego Garcia in the South China Sea?

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Sarabjeet Singh Parmar

August 7, 2012


China’s decision to set up a military garrison on Sansha on the Yongxing Island (also known as Woody Island) in the Paracel chain along with creating a city administration could be seen as a step in firstly expanding its military reach, secondly strengthening its claims in the South China Sea, and thirdly countering the US rebalance towards the region.

Militarily, an established base could provide ‘depth’ to China in terms of defence, offence and increase in its surveillance range. The distance of around 350 km from Hainan and its geographical location in the North West of the South China Sea region provides the island a strategic location. It could effectively extend ‘Lines of Operation’ well south of Hainan and mainland China thereby enabling China to exploit the dictums of ‘sustainability’ and ‘reach’ both in the maritime and air domains in the disputed area. Therefore, this island could well become China’s Diego Garcia in the South China Sea. There are some similarities between Yongxing Island and Diego Garcia that merit attention.

The runway on Yongxing is around 8,200 feet long and will enable operations of Chinese fighters such as the Sukhoi SU-30MKK. The map below indicates the area that can be covered by the combat radius of JH-7 and SU-30 aircraft operating from the island. Extension of the combat radius arcs shown in the map into a full circle indicates that China would be able to cover the full area of the South China Sea. Even though the runway juts out into the sea, there is the possibility of extending the runway by reclamation. This would depend on the topography and depth of water. The runway at Diego Garcia is around 12,000 feet long and has supported US operations in and around the Indian Ocean as well as other theatres.

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The naval base at Yongxing has over the years been upgraded with the construction of a jetty of around 1640 feet and an anti-wave dike to protect ships berthed there. There are also, apparently, no limitations due to the depth for anchorage of large vessels like destroyers and frigates. The depth available could be increased for anchoring or berthing of larger ships by dredging. Diego Garcia supports both ships and submarines and both the anchorage and jetty are protected as they are situated in the lagoon.
The islands around Yongxing, which are under Chinese control, could be used as a station for monitoring maritime activities and also for intelligence gathering. Satellite pictures taken in 2008 revealed the presence of antennae indicating that the Chinese had set up a listening and monitoring station. Radars would add to the network and make these islands a valuable communication node similar to Diego Garcia.

Till the time facilities are not constructed for basing of adequate numbers of ships and aircraft, the island could be used as a forward operating base. These facilities would include bunkering, ammunition depots, logistic and medical support, repair and maintenance, and accommodation. Although the number of assets would be limited due to space constraints, it would nevertheless be a valuable outpost. This much that can be inferred from the statement of Zhang Zhexin, a US studies expert with the Shanghai Institute for International Studies, who said that “China will certainly continue reinforcing its political and military control over Sansha as it has drawn lessons from maritime disputes in the past.”

Although the Chinese forward presence is considered ‘militarily untenable’, it is highly unlikely that any one regional country has the capability of physically stopping China’s augmentation of infrastructure without engaging in a skirmish or military stand-off. They are at best likely to engage in rhetoric and lodging strong diplomatic protests. Any attempt to counter this action of China by means of pausing engagement or dialogue would only paralyse the progress made so far, no matter how miniscule. Efforts to increase aid and military assistance to the regional countries could also result in China hardening its stance.

As per Article 121 of UNCLOS which covers island regimes, an island would have to sustain human habitation or economic life in order to have an exclusive economic zone or continental shelf. While the limited land mass of Yongxing may not be able to sustain any such activity, the proximity of rich fishing grounds and potential oil fields would prompt China to stake a claim for the island’s maritime zones as per article 121. These maritime zones also include a territorial sea and contiguous zone. The mathematics are interesting as the land mass of around 13 square kilometres would accord jurisdiction over 2 million square kilometres of waters. This would push the 200 nautical mile limit of China’s EEZ (stipulated as per UNCLOS – see map below) outwards.

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The inability of the ASEAN ministerial meeting to issue a joint communiqué at the recently concluded meeting of foreign ministers is indicative of the weakness of the concerned nations to join hands and take a multilateral stance. This helps China in its quest for bilateralism, an aspect covered by China’s foreign ministry spokesperson Liu Weimin during a press conference on July 10, 2012 prior to the ASEAN foreign ministers meeting thus:

“The South China Sea issue is not an issue between China and ASEAN, but one between China and some ASEAN countries……. China is ready to peacefully resolve the South China Sea disputes through dialogue and negotiation with countries directly involved.”

Therefore, it is possible that China, taking advantage of the situation, is looking at an ‘island hopping’ strategy to strengthen its claims and presence in the region. Should China decide to set up similar cities and jurisdictions on other islands that it controls, it could cover its entire South China Sea claim as well as strengthen its presence in the area. This would complicate the US rebalancing strategy.

Yongxing Island: China
 
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China has used of force to invade Paracel Islands of South Vietnam from 1974 [while in Vietnam was happening Vietnam War], then occupied illegally until today.
Any action of China on the Paracel Islands of Vietnam that is violation of the sovereignty of Vietnam.
So-called shasa city is illegal and worthless.
 
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The Yongxing Island is too close to home for China to label it as her own 'Diego Garcia' however, I suspect, that's the first step of her plan of building a land based carrier group hundreds of kilometer further south in one of bigger islands in the Sprately group. She can also builds runway in one of a in between island so that fighter jets can refuel on the way to the final base in the south.

I think Taiping Island is her best 'Diego Garcia' if she can negotiate to buy it from Taiwan.
 
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The Yongxing Island is too close to home for China to label it as her own 'Diego Garcia' however, I suspect, that's the first step of her plan of building a land based carrier group hundreds of kilometer further south in one of bigger islands in the Sprately group. She can also builds runway in one of a in between island so that fighter jets can refuel on the way to the final base in the south.

I think Taiping Island is her best 'Diego Garcia' if she can negotiate to buy it from Taiwan.

I don't think this is a bad ideas for China. Viet Nam can also built run ways, missile on 40 islands which are China will be surround it by Viet Nam. More over, Philippines could do the same too. With those islands value and worthy more than China AC.

Taiwan also upgrades its more fire power on Taiping [Thai Binh], that is more chances and legally for Viet Nam mounting its missiles, and air patrol on those Islands that being held on Viet Nam.

At this points, China, Taiwan could blame Viet Nam due to its acted first, Viet Nam just responding back for whatever both China's did in SCS.
 
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I don't think this is a bad ideas for China. Viet Nam can also built run ways, missile on 40 islands which are China will be surround it by Viet Nam. More over, Philippines could do the same too. With those islands value and worthy more than China AC.

Taiwan also upgrades its more fire power on Taiping [Thai Binh], that is more chances and legally for Viet Nam mounting its missiles, and air patrol on those Islands that being held on Viet Nam.

At this points, China, Taiwan could blame Viet Nam due to its acted first, Viet Nam just responding back for whatever both China's did in SCS.


I assume the bold word is a mistype for the word 'good', otherwise you have a double negatives which means good.

Despite all the rhetoric by you guys here you and the Filipinos boys know well enough you simply don't have the resources and technologies to compete with China and Taiwan in arming this area. In a few years they'll leave you guys well in the dust.

China's arming the SCS is not Vietnam oriented even though the consequence happens to be that way. It has more to do with competing against the US in what she views as her own backyard. It's paramount for China to have a full control of this area for her long term nation security.

The US knows this but doesn't have legitimate reasons (not that she needs one) to deter her and that's why sent all different signals to you guys and hope some of you would do the job for her. That's a good strategy for her because it doesn't cost her anything but it's not going to work for she underestimate the determinations of China.

The way I see it, China will go to limited forms of war to achieve her goal and the unfortunate few who are doing Uncle Sam's bidding will be sacrificed.
 
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China is sea pirate.

Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belong to Vietnam from long time ago.

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Yes, Diego Garcia and Itu Aba is different in legal circumstances.
Itu Aba is one Island in Truong Sa Islands Group of Vietnam, it has been controlled by Viets from ancient time. In colony time there was radio communication station. Taiwan occupied with force 1956 when in South Vietnam changed the regime after Geneva Agreement 1954.
Vietnam will take it back.
 
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Yes, Diego Garcia and Itu Aba is different in legal circumstances.
Itu Aba is one Island in Truong Sa Islands Group of Vietnam, it has been controlled by Viets from ancient time. In colony time there was radio communication station. Taiwan occupied with force 1956 when in South Vietnam changed the regime after Geneva Agreement 1954.
Vietnam will take it back.


How come in you map, both the Paracel Islands and Sprately group of islands are so close to the mainland of Vietnam, they almost touching each other. Take a look at Google map they are actually hundreds of kilometers apart. Someone must did a copy-paste here.

BTW ROC (Taiwan) took possession of Taiping Island (Itu Aba) in 1946, that was before the country named Vietnam was formed, and erected a headstone that indicates her sovereignty.
 
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@afatzia:

Thank's for correcting me and I appreciated. I got really bad [lagged] internet connection lately, plus going through proxy servers that could has been worst.
 
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How come in you map, both the Paracel Islands and Sprately group of islands are so close to the mainland of Vietnam, they almost touching each other. Take a look at Google map they are actually hundreds of kilometers apart. Someone must did a copy-paste here.

BTW ROC (Taiwan) took possession of Taiping Island (Itu Aba) in 1946, that was before the country named Vietnam was formed, and erected a headstone that indicates her sovereignty.


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First, that is a map drawn in 1834, it's scale could not exactly like today.

Second, the islands were surrounded by a dotted line and was deliberately to draw near the coast of Vietnam to assert that both Paracels and Spratlys belong to Vietnam.

Look on the two archipelagos, they were noted by the Chinese characters meaning "Hoàng Sa(Paracels)" and "Vạn lý Trường Sa (Spratlys)".
Note that at the time, Vietnamese feudal state still used Chinese characters.




See a color map of China in 1904, was published by Shanghai Publishing House under the Qing dynasty, it admitted that the two archipelagos were not sovereignty of China:

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So you're saying Vietnam can and allows to deliberately draw the islands close to her shore but China has to put her possessions within a set space of a map even if the space is not large enough for a larger scaled map because the islands were far and apart. Even a scaled insert would take up a large space. The map certainly was drawn by some foreigners and approved by some northern mandarins that had no knowledge of the south. There are all kind of possibilities and if one use that as proof of non sovereignty is a little absurd.

But anyway the insert on the Vietnam map looks copy-paste to me because I can clear see those parallel line directly under the insert. If you look at the Chinese map the insert for her NW territories is clear and distinct.
 
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First, that is a map drawn in 1834, it's scale could not exactly like today.

Second, the islands were surrounded by a dotted line and was deliberately to draw near the coast of Vietnam to assert that both Paracels and Spratlys belong to Vietnam.

Look on the two archipelagos, they were noted by the Chinese characters meaning "Hoàng Sa(Paracels)" and "Vạn lý Trường Sa (Spratlys)".
Note that at the time, Vietnamese feudal state still used Chinese characters.




See a color map of China in 1904, was published by Shanghai Publishing House under the Qing dynasty, it admitted that the two archipelagos were not sovereignty of China:

bandohoan%20chinh-kocoHSTS.jpg
Well, it is true that in 1904 Qing government wasn't in pocession of those islands since they are administrated by someone else, and guess what it was not Vietnam. That is right because Vietname was not even an independent country at that time.
 
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How the hell can China claim waters that run up right beside the Philippine coast?

Is this map for real?

Yes it is a real map, cited from BBC, in the bottom of the map noted "sources: UNCLOS and CIA"

It is a claim map of China over the entire South China Sea, also known as "nine dotted line".

A map "11 dotted line" painted in 1947 and first published in 1948 in a private publication.
Then Chiang's government relied on it to claim the entire SCS.

After the Chinese Communist took power, it removed 2 sections in Gulf of Tonkin, the map became "nine dotted line", and communist China still continue to use it to claim over the entire SCS.

It was a map drawn arbitrary, no coordinates, no size, no basis, and no one understands the meaning of what it is.

But in 2009 Chinese government still submitted it to the UN and continue to claim over the entire SCS.

Maps of China before 1910 admitted two archipelagoes of Paracels and Spratlys non-Chinese territory, and certainly they did not has a monster of the map "nine dotted line".

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