Yom Kippur War 1973: The Egyptian Revenge

[King Solomon]

then you say you won how ?
sainai is ours and we brought it back
your army got destroyed your once supierior air force was shot down your tanks destroyed the barlev line which was the most advanced defence line was captured in 6 hours

It must be admitted that it was a military defeat for Egypt, even though political victory was achieved by getting back Sinai (the peace deal).

The Egyptian plan initially was a super one. Israel was almost wiped out when its intelligence failure allowed Egypt to attack surprisingly (an egyptian spy acted as a double agent for Israel). But in the end, tide was turned and Israel achieved military victory even though after much help from US. Israel conceded Sinai because it saw the potential of Egypt in that war.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

It must be admitted that it was a military defeat for Egypt, even though political victory was achieved by getting back Sinai (the peace deal).

The Egyptian plan initially was a super one. Israel was almost wiped out when its intelligence failure allowed Egypt to attack surprisingly (an egyptian spy acted as a double agent for Israel). But in the end, tide was turned and Israel achieved military victory even though after much help from US. Israel conceded Sinai because it saw the potential of Egypt in that war.

Fair enough...

 

[aamerjamal]

PAF also shoot down some of Isreali Jets. dont know much info about this although. btw whats isreal's point of view about it coz they called them self as invincible AF.

 

[500]

PAF also shoot down some of Isreali Jets. dont know much info about this although. btw whats isreal's point of view about it coz they called them self as invincible AF.

Israel lost 102 jets in Yom Kippur war, the overwhelming majority of them to SAMs. PAF did not shot any Israeli jet in that war.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

PAF also shoot down some of Isreali Jets. dont know much info about this although. btw whats isreal's point of view about it coz they called them self as invincible AF.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! I got a headache with the three Israeli jets you shot down! why don't you adopt the victory?

Israel lost 102 jets in Yom Kippur war, the overwhelming majority of them to SAMs. PAF did not shot any Israeli jet in that war.

@500: How do you evaluate Jordanian engagement in 1973 war?

 

[500]

@500: How do you evaluate Jordanian engagement in 1973 war?

On 10-12 Oct Israeli forces captured a salient inside Syria. Jordanian 40th brigade participated attacks on this salient on 16th and 19th Oct together with Iraqis and Syrians. Since it was attack of three different countries together, it was poorly coordinated and executed and doomed to fail. For example in 16th Oct attack Syrians who attakced first stopped very fast and Iraqis attacked much later with little strength as result Jodanian bigade alone attacked entire Israeli division. Also since Jordanians had same Centurion tanks as Israelis, Iraqis and Syrians fired at them in both attacks.

Overall perfromance of Jordanians was best, Syrians second and Iraqis were worst.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

On 10-12 Oct Israeli forces captured a salient inside Syria. Jordanian 40th brigade participated attacks on this salient on 16th and 19th Oct together with Iraqis and Syrians. Since it was attack of three different countries together, it was poorly coordinated and executed and doomed to fail. For example in 16th Oct attack Syrians who attakced first stopped very fast and Iraqis attacked much later with little strength as result Jodanian bigade alone attacked entire Israeli division. Also since Jordanians had same Centurion tanks as Israelis, Iraqis and Syrians fired at them in both attacks.

Overall perfromance of Jordanians was best, Syrians second and Iraqis were worst.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

It must be admitted that it was a military defeat for Egypt, even though political victory was achieved by getting back Sinai (the peace deal).

The Egyptian plan initially was a super one. Israel was almost wiped out when its intelligence failure allowed Egypt to attack surprisingly (an egyptian spy acted as a double agent for Israel). But in the end, tide was turned and Israel achieved military victory even though after much help from US. Israel conceded Sinai because it saw the potential of Egypt in that war.

i wont admit it is a defeat unless you say what did isreal do to say they had the victory

 

[King Solomon]

i wont admit it is a defeat unless you say what did isreal do to say they had the victory

At the end of the war

- Israel had recaptured all of Sinai as well as territories on the western side of the Suez

- Israel captured Suez canal.

- Israel sorrounded all of Egypt's 3rd Army and could kill them all at will

- Egypt suffered 3-4 times casualty (men and material) to that of Israel

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

At the end of the war

- Israel had recaptured all of Sinai as well as territories on the western side of the Suez

- Israel captured Suez canal.

- Israel sorrounded all of Egypt's 3rd Army and could kill them all at will

- Egypt suffered 3-4 times casualty (men and material) to that of Israel

not true at all

as you can see we had most of what we gaiend in sainai
they tryed to do anything with this gap but they couldnt
the attack on suez didnt succed and it was beaten by the people of suez and some remining from infantry
the attack on ismailia was stopped by sa3ka commandos who won faced alot of armour and was outnumberd
if they tryed to attack the 3rd army they would have suffered the same
not to mention the heavy losses before in their air force and tanks
do you know that sharoun has faked an injiry and got out
we had the replacian guard unites in cairo and some troopes in sudan
their economy cant stand a long war
we could get help from sudan
after their heavy losses our commandos could strike deep in their territory

 

[500]

not true at all

as you can see we had most of what we gaiend in sainai
they tryed to do anything with this gap but they couldnt
the attack on suez didnt succed and it was beaten by the people of suez and some remining from infantry
the attack on ismailia was stopped by sa3ka commandos who won faced alot of armour and was outnumberd
if they tryed to attack the 3rd army they would have suffered the same
not to mention the heavy losses before in their air force and tanks
do you know that sharoun has faked an injiry and got out
we had the replacian guard unites in cairo and some troopes in sudan
their economy cant stand a long war
we could get help from sudan
after their heavy losses our commandos could strike deep in their territory

You should read Shazly's memories.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

You should read Shazly's memories.

i did he was a great aman but he had issues with el sadat and the defence minster at the time so i dont know how accurite they are but we agree that there was a gap and the attacks on suez and ismailia happened and we defended so any one who say that you could attack cairo or finish the 3rd army is a liar
do you agree ?

 

[500]

i did he was a great aman but he had issues with el sadat and the defence minster at the time so i dont know how accurite they are but we agree that there was a gap and the attacks on suez and ismailia happened and we defended so any one who say that you could attack cairo or finish the 3rd army is a liar
do you agree ?

3rd army was cut off supplies in open desert withour air defence. If war continued it would not survive a week. Thats why Saddat literally begged for cease fire.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

3rd army was cut off supplies in open desert withour air defence. If war continued it would not survive a week. Thats why Saddat literally begged for cease fire.

we egyptians dont fear death and the 3rd army could have attacked anyway and try to kill as much as he can
remeber we can take losses but you cant you dont have the numbers

 

[The SC]

3rd army was cut off supplies in open desert withour air defence. If war continued it would not survive a week. Thats why Saddat literally begged for cease fire.

And why did you beg for a cease fire in the first place!!!