Y-20 heavy transport aircraft News & Discussions

[shy@SJTU]

 

[Deino]

The image is not visible (at least for me) ...however if You follow You link then it is.

Thanks for posting.

Deino

 

[cirr]

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All tasks concerning the development of Y-20 have been successfully accomplished:

中航工业--图片新闻

See paragraph 5.

 

[Beast]

I hope Y-20 is able to participate this year Sino-Russo exercise in Russia and airdrop our airborne unit.

 

[Deino]

Surely not ! Following the latest reports it is currently evaluated by the PLAAF at the 4. Division at Qionglai North ... to be ready this year in an international exercise is simply too early.

 

[Beast]

Surely not ! Following the latest reports it is currently evaluated by the PLAAF at the 4. Division at Qionglai North ... to be ready this year in an international exercise is simply too early.

I don't think the evaluation is long and the production plant is ready. I can predict mass production has already started

PLAAF desperate need this baby to be operation for the fleet. The fact they buy used IL-76 shows how important strategic airlift is critical to PLAAF.

 

[sheik]

Some news about the status of Y-20 development from AVIC's official website:
中国航空工业集团公司

'2015年，航空业务发展亮点纷呈。航空装备研制生产再创佳绩。作为我国“三个大飞机”研制的主力军，圆满完成了大运研制的各项工作，大型水陆两栖飞机AG600全面进入总装，全力支持的C919大型客机顺利下线。民机和通用航空产业发展进入历史新阶段，“新舟”700获185架订单，首个部件下线，运完成适航取证。'

Not sure if it means finish of all development work or the work scheduled in 2015.
Anyway, at least it's going well.

 

[Tipu7]

Some news about the status of Y-20 development from AVIC's official website:
中国航空工业集团公司

'2015年，航空业务发展亮点纷呈。航空装备研制生产再创佳绩。作为我国“三个大飞机”研制的主力军，圆满完成了大运研制的各项工作，大型水陆两栖飞机AG600全面进入总装，全力支持的C919大型客机顺利下线。民机和通用航空产业发展进入历史新阶段，“新舟”700获185架订单，首个部件下线，运完成适航取证。'

Not sure if it means finish of all development work or the work scheduled in 2015.
Anyway, at least it's going well.

Translation plzzzzzz

 

[sheik]

Translation plzzzzzz

中航工业--集团要闻 (AVIC - Group News)

This is published on AVIC's official website under a special topic 'Salute to 2015, Embrace 2016' in which AVIC summed up its achievement and performance in the year of 2015. There is a paragraph mentioning Y-20, AG-600 (also known as TA-600) and C-919. The Y-20 part can be translated as follows:

In the year of 2015, AVIC successfully finished all development works of Y-20.

 

[cirr]

Y-20 788

 

[nang2]

Y-20 788

Looks more like 786 to me

 

[Beast]

中航工业--集团要闻 (AVIC - Group News)

This is published on AVIC's official website under a special topic 'Salute to 2015, Embrace 2016' in which AVIC summed up its achievement and performance in the year of 2015. There is a paragraph mentioning Y-20, AG-600 (also known as TA-600) and C-919. The Y-20 part can be translated as follows:

In the year of 2015, AVIC successfully finished all development works of Y-20.

The rumour of Y-20 still being evaluate is simply nonsense. How can Y-20 still being evaluate if the design and development of Y-20 is finished and totally over. It Y-20 still being evaluate by PLAAF division and PLAAF airbone division suddenly not happy with the design and ask for modification. Who the hell is going to do it since the Chief designer has gone for other project as Y-20 development and design project is already declared over?

The truth is Y-20 has already enter production phase and accepted service, we will see service Y-20 very soon and hoped they will joined Sino-Russia exercise this year.

 

[Deino]

Sorry my friend, You are dreaming simply too much !

The latest AVIC statement did not confirm that ALL test - including operational testing, tactical exercises ... -were completed. In just about three years this is simply not possible with only four flying aircraft.
IMO this statement concluded the flight trails ... and now the PLAAF-testing will begin.

You sure will argue, the C-17 needed even less time but just take into consideration, how much experience the US have in building testing and operating large aircraft; for Chine it's a first.

As such even if already assigned to a front line unit, they won't use it at a joint exercise abroad so soon.

Deino

 

[Beast]

Sorry my friend, You are dreaming simply too much !

The latest AVIC statement did not confirm that ALL test - including operational testing, tactical exercises ... -were completed. In just about three years this is simply not possible with only four flying aircraft.
IMO this statement concluded the flight trails ... and now the PLAAF-testing will begin.

You sure will argue, the C-17 needed even less time but just take into consideration, how much experience the US have in building testing and operating large aircraft; for Chine it's a first.

As such even if already assigned to a front line unit, they won't use it at a joint exercise abroad so soon.

Deino

Ok, if you claimed so, how can development phase is consider close if further modification needs to be done? If PLAAF has not approved yet, development phase cannot be freeze and designer is gone. Who is in better position for further changes if evaluation fails? Since everything is close and designer is gone?

 

[Akasa]

Ok, if you claimed so, how can development phase is consider close if further modification needs to be done? If PLAAF has not approved yet, development phase cannot be freeze and designer is gone. Who is in better position for further changes if evaluation fails? Since everything is close and designer is gone?

The developmental and evaluation phases are mutually exclusive (note: the evaluation phase is neither the test flight phase nor IOC). Test-flight involves the gradual evolution and improvement of the design/subsystems, usually at a civilian airfield, and is the phase in which actual design work is being carried out.

Evaluation is usually done after the aircraft configuration has settled (usually at the behest of the potential customer), and during which the final form of the aircraft is operated as if it were in active service; this is done to iron out any last-minute problems with either the inherent design (forcing CAC to make changes) or an individual airframe. This also allows the customer to assess the aircraft's collective capabilities during operational circumstances (which could not always be faithfully replicated during non-military testing).

It is important to note that, during evaluation, the aircraft is not actually in service, but merely subjected to the circumstances it will face as if it were operational. A successful evaluation paves the way for subsequent orders and induction of the said aircraft.

All aerospace products (including every individual airframe built by Boeing/Airbus/Embraer/etc.) goes through an evaluation phase, irregardless of when each aircraft type was "developed".