Y-20 heavy transport aircraft News & Discussions

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[bahadur999]

Y-20 cargo plane-Type 15 tank combination enhances Chinese military capability

One Y-20 large transport plane can carry two Type 15 lightweight tanks and realize long-range deployment of 7,800 kilometers. Photo: Screenshot from China Central Television

By Liu Xuanzun

One domestically made Y-20 large cargo aircraft can reportedly carry two newly commissioned Type 15 tanks for long-range transport operations, and this new combination will enhance the Chinese military's strategic transport capability, experts said on Wednesday.

By using this combination, China can quickly send powerful armored reinforcements into difficult environments at high elevations, among mountains or in water-rich locations, they said.

Thanks to the Type 15 tank's light weight of about 30 tons, a Y-20 can carry two of them at once and achieve long-range deployment of 7,800 kilometers, state broadcaster China Central Television (CCTV) reported on Wednesday, revealing this combination for the first time.

The transcontinental flight-capable Y-20 transport aircraft can carry more than 60 tons, and the size of its large cargo bay can fit two Type 15 tanks, Fu Qianshao, a Chinese air defense expert, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

The Y-20 can also carry one Type 99A main battle tank, which weighs about 50 to 60 tons, but this new combination can enhance the Chinese military's strategic transport capability by offering different tactical choices, Fu said.

The lightweight Type 15 is designed to efficiently operate in difficult terrains at high elevations, in mountainous regions and water-dense areas, where a heavy tank like Type 99A may not perform at full potential, Fu said, noting that two lightweight tanks can also outperform one heavy tank in some combat scenarios.

Multiple Y-20s can also transport a mixture of Type 15s, Type 99As and other kinds of armored vehicles, leading to a significant improvement in China's long-range rapid deployment, Fu said.

China has a vast territory, and having a good aerial transport capability will optimize the military's power and structural deployment, military expert Ge Lide said on CCTV.

The Type 15 made its public debut at the National Day military parade on October 1, 2019 in Beijing, and some Type 15s were deployed in exercises in the plateaus of Southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region in January 2020.

The Type 15 tank is the world's only modern lightweight tank in service, Chinese military magazine Weapon reported in 2019, noting it is equipped with a 105-millimeter gun and advanced sensors that can "devastate enemy light-armored vehicles in regions not suitable for heavy main battle tank deployment."

 

[aziqbal]

until the Y20 doesn't have indigenous engine surely it cannot lift 60 tons?

 

[kungfugymnast]

until the Y20 doesn't have indigenous engine surely it cannot lift 60 tons?

Y20 made with technology reverse engineered from IL-76, don't expect it to match C-17 Globemaster III that could carry 2x M-1A2SEP. Since Ukraine breakaway and owned AN-226 Mriya Cossack, China should pay Ukraine for the AN-226 technology buyout to come up with true heavy airlifter

 

[Deino]

Y-20 cargo plane-Type 15 tank combination enhances Chinese military capability

One Y-20 large transport plane can carry two Type 15 lightweight tanks and realize long-range deployment of 7,800 kilometers. Photo: Screenshot from China Central Television

By Liu Xuanzun

One domestically made Y-20 large cargo aircraft can reportedly carry two newly commissioned Type 15 tanks for long-range transport operations, and this new combination will enhance the Chinese military's strategic transport capability, experts said on Wednesday.

By using this combination, China can quickly send powerful armored reinforcements into difficult environments at high elevations, among mountains or in water-rich locations, they said.

Thanks to the Type 15 tank's light weight of about 30 tons, a Y-20 can carry two of them at once and achieve long-range deployment of 7,800 kilometers, state broadcaster China Central Television (CCTV) reported on Wednesday, revealing this combination for the first time.

The transcontinental flight-capable Y-20 transport aircraft can carry more than 60 tons, and the size of its large cargo bay can fit two Type 15 tanks, Fu Qianshao, a Chinese air defense expert, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

The Y-20 can also carry one Type 99A main battle tank, which weighs about 50 to 60 tons, but this new combination can enhance the Chinese military's strategic transport capability by offering different tactical choices, Fu said.

The lightweight Type 15 is designed to efficiently operate in difficult terrains at high elevations, in mountainous regions and water-dense areas, where a heavy tank like Type 99A may not perform at full potential, Fu said, noting that two lightweight tanks can also outperform one heavy tank in some combat scenarios.

Multiple Y-20s can also transport a mixture of Type 15s, Type 99As and other kinds of armored vehicles, leading to a significant improvement in China's long-range rapid deployment, Fu said.

China has a vast territory, and having a good aerial transport capability will optimize the military's power and structural deployment, military expert Ge Lide said on CCTV.

The Type 15 made its public debut at the National Day military parade on October 1, 2019 in Beijing, and some Type 15s were deployed in exercises in the plateaus of Southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region in January 2020.

The Type 15 tank is the world's only modern lightweight tank in service, Chinese military magazine Weapon reported in 2019, noting it is equipped with a 105-millimeter gun and advanced sensors that can "devastate enemy light-armored vehicles in regions not suitable for heavy main battle tank deployment."

Concerning this news I must admit it is indeed surprising, skeptical and in fact question its credibility, since we usually thought, the Y-20 won't be able to carry one of the Type 99A MBTs (or about 58t).
As such to carry 2 Type 15 (with about 33-36 t each) would surpass with 66-72 t even the officially mentioned maximum payload of 60 t.

But these are just my thoughts.

Best,
Deino

 

[Deino]

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Via @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

At first I thought this might be the well known Y-20A no. 11056 (4. TD), but it lacks the yellow stripe ... then I thought it might be a so far not confirmed 20046 (13. TD), but also those attached to the 13th Transport Division lack that yellow stripe. So in fact I'm confused.

Mystery solved

https://twitter.com/x/status/1248193772736872451

 

[juj06750]

to deino & other west foreigners
again, it's our arms; listen to what china says
our state media NEVER lie (if it says, then it is)
yes it's true that our new transport aircaft Y20A can carry up to 66 tons (one type 99 tank or two type 15 tanks)
although it has never shown dropping any tank from its flight yet
it had passed all necessary tests and activities as of strategic transport aircraft before it entered the service in 2016

 

[zhxy]

Y-20 is a great plane. But China needs bigger transport aircraft. Similar to AN-225

 

[LKJ86]

Y20 made with technology reverse engineered from IL-76

I can't agree with you.

Why does Y-20A equipped with weak engines still perform better than the latest IL-76MD-90A (IL-476)?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Y20 made with technology reverse engineered from IL-76

i would like to say from both project (IL-76 and from C-17) Y-20 have High lift device on the wings similar to C-17s , whereas IL-76 lack these high lift devices on wings

 

[kungfugymnast]

I can't agree with you.

Why does Y-20A equipped with weak engines still perform better than the latest IL-76MD-90A (IL-476)?

Y20 is newer ofcourse better than the old IL-76

i would like to say from both project (IL-76 and from C-17) Y-20 have High lift device on the wings similar to C-17s , whereas IL-76 lack these high lift devices on wings

It copied some design cue and features from C-17 to improve lift. Nothing more. Ukraine is hit with economic downturns and won't hesitate to sell technology to China. While Antonov is still open to offer, China should quickly buy technology for AN-226 Mriya Cossack. It is one fine beast, China could build 4x engines and 6 engines heavy airlifter.

Y-20 is a great plane. But China needs bigger transport aircraft. Similar to AN-225

Yes they do need it

 

[Ultima Thule]

It copied some design cue and features from C-17 to improve lift. Nothing more. Ukraine is hit with economic downturns and won't hesitate to sell technology to China. While Antonov is still open to offer, China should quickly buy technology for AN-226 Mriya Cossack. It is one fine beast, China could build 4x engines and 6 engines heavy airlifter.

In your above post you said that Y-20 only based upon IL-76, that's why i said you're wrong Y-20 is also inspired by C-17

 

[kungfugymnast]

In your above post you said that Y-20 only based upon IL-76, that's why i said you're wrong Y-20 is also inspired by C-17

I said technology derived from IL-76 out of reverse engineering.

Antonov is desperate for business and China should buy aircrafts such as AN-72 Coaler, AN-225 Mriya and fund some of their new airlifter project to reverse engineer.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I said technology derived from IL-76 out of reverse engineering.

Antonov is desperate for business and China should buy aircrafts such as AN-72 Coaler, AN-225 Mriya and fund some of their new airlifter project to reverse engineer.

And same goes to C-17 why are you not referring to C-17 and i think few year back the deal was done by Anatov and China to transfer the tech of AN-225 to China