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Xisha may open to tourists soon

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" four-day and three-night tour to the Xisha Isds by a supply boat costs 5,500 yuan ($871) per perannson.."

That's expensive, even with "Nice Guy" and his buddies being the tour guides + targets for shooting practices...:rofl:


See, a recent Med Cruise deal was of 14 days onboard of a 4**** gaint lux cruise ship, all food and drinks/cocktails included (with numerous on-board haude cuisine restaurants and pubs), going thru some major coastal cities of Italy, France and Spain...plus one-way fly back to any major W Europe city where you depart! That's only about 900 euro.

Good, good. when target for shooting practise are sea pirates, they robbed our Island.:P
 
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HoangSa Islands belong to Vietnam from long time in our History, China robbed with force 1974. :smokin:


Vietnam belongs to China for long time, too. Vietnam history is partly a Chinese history for long time, so the islands are also Chinese for long time.

For sure that when the concubine the Viet splits from her master the China, of course dispute arises about once common properties. The problem is the PM of the concubine represented by PM Pham declared it belongs to China.

Now the concubine changes her mind, so face some chanllenge before you climb up to other's bed... :lol:
 
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Vietnam gained independence from China from 938 when we wiped out all chinese invaders. According to the Vietnam Encyclopedia, Giao Chi is the name for Vietnam and Vietnamese people in the past, used by Chinese feudal dynasties.

In the past, The country of Giao Chi (Vietnam today) with the Giao Chi Sea in China’s ancient book of maps entitled “Vo Bi Chi”.
This is evident that chinese acepted Giao Chi Sea belong to country of Giao Chi.

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in “Vo Bi Chi” (a book of maps which records the journey of a Chinese man named Cheng Ho from China through the Indian Ocean to Africa in 1405-1433), Vietnam or Giao Chi country was drawn to be adjacent to China’s Qinzhou to the north, Champa to the south, the Giao Chi Sea (the sea of Giao Chi country - East Sea) to the east.

“Giao Chi” is probably 交趾, part of it is current Vietnam, where Chinese criminals were sentenced and condemned to live because it was too hot and humid and full of strange diseases (Australia served such functionalities as well).

Obviously 交趾 was a part of China at a time. Maybe the Qinzhou was Hanoi?

Your map is too small and unclear to read those Chinese characters except for 交趾洋. It may well be faked by your Viet authorities.

BTW, for your educational purposes, many of those maps are no proportional to actuality. In fact, it gives only conceptual relative positions of objects. For instance, Beijing is in NE of Hanoi, they can just position each other nearby in a large scaled map as such.
 
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Vietnam belongs to China for long time, too. Vietnam history is partly a Chinese history for long time, so the islands are also Chinese for long time.

For sure that when the concubine the Viet splits from her master the China, of course dispute arises about once common properties. The problem is the PM of the concubine represented by PM Pham declared it belongs to China.

Now the concubine changes her mind, so face some chanllenge before you climb up to other's bed... :lol:

China invaded Vietnam and were pushed away, like France and US, no more. Invader is aggressor, isn't master. Base on your logic Japan is China's master. Japan can claim Manchukuo.
China lies about nature of letter of PM Pham from north Vietnam. He didn't have right to do it be course Islands belong to South Vietnam after 1954 by Geneva Agreement, China and North Vietnam has been signed. In his letter he stated North Vietnam respect to the 12 miles of China's coastline only.

China climbed up to bed in Moscow 1950, invied US to bed 1972 in Peking, and went to bed in Washington 1979. :enjoy:
 
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“Giao Chi” is probably 交趾, part of it is current Vietnam, where Chinese criminals were sentenced and condemned to live because it was too hot and humid and full of strange diseases (Australia served such functionalities as well).

Obviously 交趾 was a part of China at a time. Maybe the Qinzhou was Hanoi?

Your map is too small and unclear to read those Chinese characters except for 交趾洋. It may well be faked by your Viet authorities.

BTW, for your educational purposes, many of those maps are no proportional to actuality. In fact, it gives only conceptual relative positions of objects. For instance, Beijing is in NE of Hanoi, they can just position each other nearby in a large scaled map as such.

The book printed in China, you can find it in China.
When you are talking about fake product, it should be the map made by Viet, Chinese copied. This is evident that Viet has been controlled the Viet Sea (交趾) from ancient time, before Han Dynasty in China. :coffee:
 
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Uneducated guy.
Do you know who was the architecture in chef to build and made a design for Forbidden Stronghold (紫禁城) in Peking China. He is nguyễn An, Vietnamese.

[URL="http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguy%E1%BB%85n_An[/URL]

[video]http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguy%E1%BB%85n_An[/video]






Sorry, sound of this film is dubbing with Vietnamese. I can't find the original Document Film produced by ZDK Germany TV station in German with native Germany Language.

Nguyen An studied the Chinese architecture, therefore his contribution in architecture was Chinese.

Same as many ethnic Chinese scientists has contributed for US.

BTW, the Forbidden City of Beijing was basically a larger replica of the one of Nanjing, but Nguyen An did make some improvement over it. :coffee:
 
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China invaded Vietnam and were pushed away, like France and US, no more. Invader is aggressor, isn't master. Base on your logic Japan is China's master. Japan can claim Manchukuo.
China lies about nature of letter of PM Pham from north Vietnam. He didn't have right to do it be course Islands belong to South Vietnam after 1954 by Geneva Agreement, China and North Vietnam has been signed. In his letter he stated North Vietnam respect to the 12 miles of China's coastline only.

China climbed up to bed in Moscow 1950, invied US to bed 1972 in Peking, and went to bed in Washington 1979. :enjoy:

I thought you offer to PRC in 1950? :lol: don't tell me yr supply during Vietnam war drop from sky?

There is even a monument in Hanoi honouring PLAAF air defense for sacrifacing their life for the defend of Hanoi skies against amerIcan bomber.

I urge you before u shoot those rubbish. Check yr history first.
 
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Vietnam belongs to China for long time, too. Vietnam history is partly a Chinese history for long time, so the islands are also Chinese for long time.

For sure that when the concubine the Viet splits from her master the China, of course dispute arises about once common properties. The problem is the PM of the concubine represented by PM Pham declared it belongs to China.

Now the concubine changes her mind, so face some chanllenge before you climb up to other's bed... :lol:

In the past, China used force to invade Vietnam, it were illegal invasion and occupation. So, It's stupid and uneducated to say that "Vietnam belongs to China".
We waited a thousand years to defeat Han completely from my country. Han ran away with its tail between its legs in 938 at Battle of Bach Dang River.
Today we did, are, will waiting for the opportunity to get back Hoang Sa Island (Paracels), which is occupied illegally by China after it used force to rob the islands from Vietnam in 1974.


There is even a monument in Hanoi honouring PLAAF air defense for sacrifacing their life for the defend of Hanoi skies against amerIcan bomber.

I urge you before u shoot those rubbish. Check yr history first.

Really? Can you show me where is place of the "monument"?
 
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@ EastSea

You do talk a lot of nonsense. How can Japan be China's master by claiming Manchukuo? gpit never said anything that China is Vietnam's master. He only said that Vietnam belonged to China for a very long time. Actually to be more specific a part of the current Vietnam was part of China in a couple of Chinese Dynasties. Look at this animation.

Territories_of_Dynasties_in_China.gif


Here are some facts for you to read.

Jin Dynasty 1115 - 1234 created by Jurchen people (ancestors of the Manchu people)

Yuan Dynasty 1271 - 1368 established by Kublai Khan (grandson of Genghis Khan)
Ming Dynasty 1368 - 1644 Mongols rule ended, this dynasty was established by the Han Chinese
Qing Dynasty 1644 - 1912 This dynasty was created by the Manchu people

1858: Treaty of Aigun signed between Russian empire and empire of the Qing Dynasty
establishing the modern border between Far East Russia and Manchuria

1904: Russia occupies Manchuria, Japan declares war with Russia
1905: Treaty of Portsmouth signed, Russia agrees to return sovereignty to China.
1931: Japan invaded Manchuria
1932: Manchuria becomes puppet state Manchukuo
1937: Japan invades China, start of 2nd Sino Japan war
1945: End of WW II, Manchukuo abolished after Soviet's invasion

China has always been ruled by different ethnic people, by Han Chinese, Mongols, Manchuria people etc. Even Manchuria's ancestors the Jurchen ethnic were part of China (see Jin Dynasty). Manchukuo is just a puppet state created by the Japanese when they invaded China.

You seem so proud to tell us how you Vietnamese beat the French, Americans and Chinese. How we wanted to invade Vietnam.
You forget that Vietnam was divided in North and South. America supported the South while China supported the North.
If it wasn't for Soviet Union and China , North Vietnam probably would have lost to the South.

In the summer of 1962, Mao Zedong agreed to supply Hanoi with 90,000 rifles and guns free of charge. Starting in 1965, China sent anti-aircraft units and engineering battalions to North Vietnam to repair the damage caused by American bombing, rebuild roads and railroads, and to perform other engineering works. This freed North Vietnamese army units for combat in the South.

Sino-Soviet relations wasn't good after the Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia in August 1968. In October, the Chinese demanded North Vietnam cut relations with Moscow, but Hanoi refused. China began financing the Khmer Rouge as a counterweight to the Vietnamese communists. The Khmer Rouge launched raids into Vietnam in 1975–1978. Vietnam responded with an invasion that toppled the Khmer Rouge. In response, China launched a brief invasion of Vietnam in 1979. After China retreated Vietnam occupied Cambodia.

1) North Vietnam didn't defeat America, USA just retreated from the Vietnam War
2) China didn't want to occupy Vietnam, they just helped Khmer Rouge.
3) China and North Vietnam suffered heavy losses, China decided to retreat just like the Americans.

You and many Vietnamese probably feel like you people have won the war while China and USA just retreated. Unlike Vietnam China had no plan to occupy because that's what Vietnam did with Cambodia.
 
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@ EastSea

You do talk a lot of nonsense. How can Japan be China's master by claiming Manchukuo? gpit never said anything that China is Vietnam's master. He only said that Vietnam belonged to China for a very long time. Actually to be more specific a part of the current Vietnam was part of China in a couple of Chinese Dynasties. Look at this animation.
VN has two parts: North and South. China only controlled North VN , and kicked back home after that. so how can you say :" Vietnam belonged to China" ???

Pls note that: China was erased on the World map when under Mogol occupation. Poor you China.
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Who cares about Mongol Empire nowadays? Mongols is one of China's fifty minorities.

Vice-Foreign Minister Fu Ying said China is fully prepared to respond to anything the Philippine side does on the issue.

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Vice-Minister is Mongol. And if you want to play dirty our Mongol will kick your a-double-s.
 
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Who cares about Mongol Empire nowadays? Mongols is one of China's fifty minorities.

Vice-Foreign Minister Fu Ying said China is fully prepared to respond to anything the Philippine side does on the issue.

2442fuying300.jpg


Vice-Minister is Mongol. And if you want to play dirty our Mongol will kick your a-double-s.

PS the Chinese Mongolian is the main ethnic Mongolian in the world.
 
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mongol-empire-large.gif


This is a big joke because Mongol Empires was defeated 3 times by Trần (Chen) Dynasty, they could not invaded us and certainly, there was not North Vietnam in territory of them. This map may was made by imagine of an idiot!
 
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mongol-empire-large.gif


This is a big joke because Mongol Empires was defeated 3 times by Trần (Chen) Dynasty, they could not invaded us and certainly, there was not North Vietnam in territory of them. This map may was made by imagine of an idiot!

When a small country find itself in a battle against superpower, it must win.

For once it lose, the small country will stop being exist.
 
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Who cares about Mongol Empire nowadays? Mongols is one of China's fifty minorities.

Vice-Foreign Minister Fu Ying said China is fully prepared to respond to anything the Philippine side does on the issue.


Vice-Minister is Mongol. And if you want to play dirty our Mongol will kick your a-double-s.
bcz you keep bragging " VN belonged to China" then, I just showed that: how can we belong to a country that her name was erased on World Map ??
Bo xilai said:
This is a big joke because Mongol Empires was defeated 3 times by Trần (Chen) Dynasty, they could not invaded us and certainly, there was not North Vietnam in territory of them. This map may was made by imagine of an idiot!
Oki, here is a better one, happy now :D
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