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I call BS on this article. China is not Russia. China never blames "wahhabis/salafis" for unrest or terrorist activities. In fact, it was the Communist party which legalized wahhabism (ikhwan/yihewani and salafi/sailaifengye sects) in China unlike Russia where Russia turned Wahhabi into a dirty word.

Allvoices does not seem to be a legitimate news agency. China didn't say anyone was training ETIM members. All it said was that ETIM members traveled to Syria to join the fight in the globaltimes (an actual news agency from China).

China, while putting the blame on Wahabi/Salafist elements for unrest in its far-western region of Xinjiang, has linked the terrorist activities in China with Syrian opposition fighters stating that Syrian opposition forces are training Muslim extremists. The Syrian opposition fighters are believed to be elements of al Qaeda being funded and armed by Western countries and the US. They are fighting to overthrow pro-Iran Assad regime to enforce in Syria their brand of Islam which is practiced in Saudi Arabia.
Reuters has reported that it was the first time Beijing has blamed a group in Syria and fits a common narrative of the government portraying Xinjiang's violence as coming from abroad, such as Pakistan, and not due to homegrown anger. The extremists operating in Xinjiang want to liberate the area from China to establish a new state, East Turkestan. Xinjiang, though a part of Chinese union has a semi-independent status like Hong Kong and called Special Administrative Region. This province is populated by majority ethnic Uighurs who are predominantly Muslims and seek independence for religious as well as cultural reasons.
According to official Chinese anti-terrorism authorities, some members of the 'East Turkestan' faction have entered Syria from Turkey, participated in extremist, religious and terrorist organizations within the Syrian opposition forces and fought against the Syrian army. This is going on since 2012.
The world is clearly divided on Syrian crisis with Iran openly backing the incumbent regime and Russia extending moral and material support. With China now blaming its internal troubles on anti-Assad rebels, it is expected that pro-Assad support base will widen. The analysts feel that the US and its allies are making huge blunder in supporting Syrian rebels who are al Qaeda elements. Once they seize power in Syria, a remote possibility, then the world will witness increased terrorist activities beyond South Asia and the Middle East.

Terrorists in Xinjiang were trained by Syrian opposition forces, blames China
 
I think that Chinese land is big enough for Han Chinese, so the Han should let return to freedom of Uyghurs and their independent muslim country...

Vietnam invaded Muslim Champa (nearly the entire modern south Vietnam) and slaughtered tens of thousands of Cham, and swamped the entire region with Vietnamese immigrants. Thousands of Cham fled to Cambodia and to China where they were given refuge in Hainan and are now known as Utsuls. Now Vietnamese are majority in former Champa and Cham population is less than 200,000.

I think North Vietnam is enough land for Vietnamese so Vietnam should free Champa and give the Mekong Delta back to Cambodia.

The Chagatai prince joined China for protection against the Dzunghars. that is why the Kumul Khanate lasted until 1930 in China, but no Cham voluntarily submitted to Vietnam but were invaded. Katip Suma led a Jihad from Malaysia against Vietnam in the 19th century to liberate the Cham.

The Art of Champa - Jean-François Hubert - Google Books

The Raja Praong Ritual: A Memory of the Sea in Cham- Malay Relations

Meanwhile, lack document to record the yourneys of Malay came to Champa by sea. Execpt, the yourney of Tuen Phaow from Kelantan come to Champa by sea to lead a Jihad movement to expel theVietnamese army from the land of Champa
 
I do not think those terrorists are actually in/out of China using visas. Look at those mountainous areas between the two countries. BTW, those terrorists find some pretty good hiding spots in those tribe areas in Pakistan, just like those talibans.

I hate to fingering anyone, only if China is good at security issue: if we didn't issue visa and keep boudary tight to any potential suspects, these terrorists will never getting into/out through Pakistan...the worst is that our intelligent don't even have a clue on how the terrorist face look alike.

we have never learn from previous lesson...and I'm pretty sure that this event will repeat again and again.
 
I do not think those terrorists are actually in/out of China using visas. Look at those mountainous areas between the two countries. BTW, those terrorists find some pretty good hiding spots in those tribe areas in Pakistan, just like those talibans.

Just hide out. What about training, weapons and finance?? According to you who takes care of it??
 
Sounds like NATO tricks.

Oh yes NATO trick. BTW isn't Pakistan a global partner of the very same organization. So this means if NATO is plotting these things it is very likely that they are executing through their global partner.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NATO_partnerships.svg
 
“helped China become strong”?
Great joke.

Because the administrator is not allowed to discuss this topic, I can not say much,
I can only tell you that ,in 1644-1911, They invaded our country,we Chinese people are their slaves, by the endless slaughter, humiliation, persecution, HAN Chinese culture has been destroyed.

And now some of their(Disguised as Han,Lurking into the Communist Party) descendants still rule over us.

Now, only Japan and South Korea, retained some ancient HAN Chinese culture.
Kimono, hanbok, retained Hanfu shadow.

The Qing dynasty was apparently so intent on "persecuting" Han Chinese culture that the Manchu language went nearly extinct under their rule as the entire Manchu population including the Imperial Family nearly all spoke Chinese. And the same reason they minted all their coins with Chinese characters even in non Han regions. The Qing also introduced Confucian education to non Han minorities like the plains aboriginals in Taiwan and spread Chinese culture to them.

@Hu Songshan

Serial troll is back. Now flinging around patently false claims that Manchus disguised as Han are secretly running the Communist Party.
 
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The Qing dynasty was apparently so intent on "persecuting" Han Chinese culture that the Manchu language went nearly extinct under their rule as the entire Manchu population including the Imperial Family nearly all spoke Chinese. And the same reason they minted all their coins with Chinese characters even in non Han regions. The Qing also introduced Confucian education to non Han minorities like the plains aboriginals in Taiwan and spread Chinese culture to them.

@Hu Songshan

Serial troll is back. Now flinging around patently false claims that Manchus disguised as Han are secretly running the Communist Party.
I thought about that too if they were opossed to Han culture why did the most of them forget their own language?
 
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This is right,
My English is not good,
So using machine translation error occurred.

In fact, I do not want against any person, do not want to kibitz ,
Since the 1990s,
Praise colonization and genocide drama angered me,
Qing Dynasty collapsed, but NOW they did not repent.

Holocaust always wrong, inexcusable,
No matter who it is, what excuse
The manchus were good rulers they didnt impose their own language to the chinese and respected their culture if the manchus would be so evil and prmitive they would have forced you speak their own language why only 75.000 people can speak a tungusic language?
Because most forgot their language and didnt force others to learn their language.
 
China media: Xinjiang warning


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Beijing says paramilitary soldiers are deployed in Xiniang to end violence

State media warn of Xinjiang fighters training in Syria, while Hong Kong newspapers call on the city's government to start political reform dialogue quickly to avert crisis.

Communist Party newspaper the People's Daily and the Xinjiang Daily both call for a tougher crackdown against "terrorist violence" in Xinjiang, days after 35 people were killed in clashes there.

The Global Times says people in Xinjiang and the whole of China should show no fear towards "terrorists" or the "accusations of the West" over the security crackdown in the region.

Beijing traditionally blames attacks in Xinjiang - home to the minority Muslim Uighur population - on "terrorists". Uighurs say ethnic tensions are fuelled by Beijing's heavy-handed rule.

Confirming details of incidents is difficult because the information flow out of Xinjiang is tightly controlled.

Syrian Ambassador to China Imad Moustapha tells the state-run Global Times that at least 30 members of the East Turkistan Islamic Movement (Etim), who are deemed a Xinjiang "terrorist organisation" by Beijing, have sneaked into Syria from Turkey.

"The aim of these 'Etim' members is most likely to be fighting in the Syrian city of Aleppo. This still cannot be fully confirmed, but it is certain that these 'Etim' elements trained at the Pakistan-Afghan border, and then went to southern Turkey," Mr Moustapha says.

The English-language version of the Global Times also interviews Memeti Aili, whom the newspaper describes as a 23-year-old ethnic Uighur who was caught by police recently when retuning to Xinjiang to carry out a "violent attack" ordered by Etim.

It says Memeti Aili was approached by the East Turkistan Education and Solidarity Association, a Turkish-based exile group, while he was studying in Istanbul and asked to go to Aleppo to receiving combat training.

An anti-terrorism official also tells the Global Times that about 100 people like Memeti Aili have gone to Syria to gain experience in combat and terrorist attacks while fighting alongside Syrian rebels since last year.

Democracy march 'censored'

In other news, Hong Kong's annual 1 July protest march was censored by the mainland state media and even the city's handover anniversary celebrations were given low-key and cursory coverage.

A bilingual editorial in the Global Times plays down the march as having a lower turn-out than before and as a routine occurrence that merits little concern or fear from the mainland.

"From the perspective of the mainland public, Hong Kong is a paradise for tourists which provides good bargaining. Few mainland visitors are interested in Hong Kong politics, and almost nobody believes 'severe problems' will happen in Hong Kong, such as a confrontation with the central government or 'Hong Kong independence'," it adds.

However, in Hong Kong, the Beijing-backed the Ta Kung Pao accuses the 1 July march organisers of trying to bring down Chief Executive CY Leung's government, seek covert "Hong Kong independence" and to weaken China's communist rule and curb its modernisation.

"These foreign flunkey 'Hong Kong traitors' who are willing to act as henchmen for foreign anti-China and anti-Communist forces must be attacked and exposed with the sternest attitude and maximum effort," the newspaper stresses.

Commentaries in the Ta Kung Pao and the Beijing-linked the Wen Wei Po also cast doubts over the march organisers' turnout figure of 430,000 as opposed to the police's figure of 66,000.

The Wen Wei Po also insinuates that the organisers may have exaggerated the turn-out figure to secure more money from US government-funded groups. However, most Hong Kong newspapers accept the organisers' tally of 430,000 people at the march.


Editorials in the Hong Kong Economic Journal, the Hong Kong Economic Times and the South China Morning Post say CY Leung's pledge to hold consultations at an appropriate time on introducing universal suffrage in 2017 fell short of the expectations of the demonstrators.

The editorials all urge the government to start consultations as soon as possible to prevent further political turmoil.

The Ming Pao calls on all sides to take advantage of Mr Leung's pledge on consultations and for the pro-establishment camp to start dialogue with the pan-democrats on political reform.

The Oriental Daily News says the typhoon could not deter people from voicing grievances over livelihood difficulties and says incompetent governance, chaos and social rifts have reached "intolerable proportions".

The Sing Tao Daily, however, says the economy is in much better shape than during the 1 July protest march in 2003.

It believes that livelihood policies are less likely to placate the public's impatience over the slow pace of political reform this time.

"The central government should trust the wisdom of Hong Kong people and implement genuine universal suffrage, so that a chief executive with credibility and integrity can come to power," the Apple Daily concludes.

BBC News - China media: Xinjiang warning
 
In 1911, Sun Yat-sen led the revolution ousted qing,
Invaders fled everywhere,
They fled to Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, and some fled to the Northeast to establish Manchukuo (Japan vassal),
They changed the name, speak Chinese, disguised as Han, escape revolution,
So language gradually disappear.
((They are in primitive society, there is no independent characters, have been using the Mongolian alphabet, can not replace the HAN characters))
However, after 1980, they came back.
Shooting a lot of praise colonial drama,
They say slaughter is legal, because they are \"Chinese\" aggression \"civil war.\"
But this angered us.
1644 ago, China is the world\'s most advanced and prosperous country.
1911, China is the world\'s most barbaric and backward country,
This is caused by the destruction of their shameless.
There pig tail, pig tails people think the symbol of the Chinese people, in fact, is not, it is an insult to the Chinese people colonists trick, if you do not dress up as a pig tail, will be slaughtered.

(In the Qing Dynasty, they often incite conflict between Han and Uighurs, the use of these contradictions to maintain colonial rule,
Therefore, after the demise of the Qing Dynasty, Uyghur revenge them, but China has implemented Soviet nationality policy,did not pursue their crimes)

Liar. The majority of Manchu lost the ability to speak Manchu during Qing rule, not after.

The Qing Emperors also required Manchu Bannermen to address themselves as slaves (nucai) to the Emperor while Han officials could just call themselves minister (chen).

The Qing never incited conflict between Uighurs and Han. In fact the people who were causing the violence were raiders from Kokand, not Uighurs revolting, The Uighur separatist Ehmetjan Qasim was incited by the Soviet Union in his rebellion against the Republic of China, not because of revenge for (nonexistent) conflicts incited by the Qing..
 
I'm not even gonna read all 8 pages of discussion.

If you guys kill Uyghurs than I hope napalm covers Beijing. Napalm really works well on you guys

Many Chinese Uighurs got killed by terrorists, and stop acting like an a$$hole here, messing with China won't be good for your country.
 
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