Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[Politico]

Good Job.. Finish them all!!!

indian will always cheers 4 muslim death.

 

[mpk1988]

indian will always cheers 4 muslim death.

Terrorists deserve death. If you're against humanity, you should die. Get that through your thick skull.

 

[Zsari]

The same way on Chinese media, how much you care or even know about what happened in Mexico, Columbia, Brazil or Argentina? In the US, they related a lot on the issue there, but I don't think China have any major relation toward those place and I don't see CCTV reporting on the relative of Mexico Provincial Sheriff was killed 2 weeks ago in a drug related hit. Nor the Bope (Rio SWAT) Operation in Rio leads to 4 civilian dead just a month prior. Those news would have no value to air in China, then can we also say China have double standard?

People are not complaining that there is no coverage in the west of the event that's taking place in Xinjiang, but rather the content of these reports that are justifying terrorism.

There is no double standards, you have a part of your country which has historically had a large muslim population, no where in Europe has a muslim majority area apart from some shitholes in the Balkans. Its a bit different than 1st/2nd generation immigrants who attack France, they know it isnt truly their home whilst with the Uighurs it is their home.

So terrorism is justifiable past the 2nd generation immigrants?

 

[jkroo]

People are not complaining that there is no coverage in the west of the event that's taking place in Xinjiang, but rather the content of these reports that are justifying terrorism.

Yeah, we will never do that. Terrorism is terrorism and terrorists are terrorists not based at the race, nation and ethnic.

By these reports, the west well defined terrrorism and terrorist. It reflects the morality of the west media.

Well, what you can notice is that some of the west propagenda mechine do work for some filthy purposes.

Look, you have viewed the rediculous viewpoints, haven't you?

 

[Zhang Fan]

Radio Free Asia, just like VOA, is one of the arms of US propaganda machine, so this is expected. And we all know how the so called "main stream media" of "International Community" would spin everything about China, so it is not a big surprise either. We are not going to see anything different from the west anytime soon.

On the surface, it is about the good "free democratic international society" versus "evil totalitarian regime", but in its core, it is about Anglo-Saxon versus Oriental. The west is simply not ready to see China's rising into the world stage so soon and so powerful, and they seem to be unable to stop this from happening, so they will use every opportunity and do everything to defame China. "Double Standard" is an understatement, and it reflects the sharp contrast between their desire to contain China and their inability to do so. Simply put it, the west is not ready to accept China as a great power in equal footing.

What China needs to do, I think, is to strive for its international discourse power, which could be much more effective than ASAT, ASBM, or additional AC battle groups to create a more favorable international climate. CCTV needs to reform and come up with something in line with RT. Otherwise, China will still remind in this hostile international environment for years to come.

Hehe,this guy keeps proping up China while singing the star spangle banner to yankies for gaining himself better resource and social welfare,even if what he says are all correct,he is still unscrupulous.

 

[beijingwalker]

This young girl's legs were blown off by a bomb planted by terrorists in Xinjiang

 

[jhungary]

People are not complaining that there is no coverage in the west of the event that's taking place in Xinjiang, but rather the content of these reports that are justifying terrorism.

What is "Justifying" terrorism?

I can report an ISIS attack without condemning the attack itself, which is what News Organisation SHOULD do as they should stay neutral. So if a news report on an IS attack and does not condemn the attack, does that mean it "Justifying" terrorism?

You, as a viewer can be biased. However, a new report should be neutral. Whenever an attack is covered. I don't think those media outlet will condemn anything as they should report the news as it is. Justifying an attack can mean anything, but for news network, the only way they would justify an attack is as if they agree on the attack, which I don't know what kind of news outlet you watch in the west (or allegedly watch) they don't comment on news report here in the major attack

Here is a CNN example on the Chinese Xinjiang attack not so long ago

Compare to a CNN report on Paris Terror Attack

They have the same style of reporting on both attack 1 year apart. Albeit the Chinese one were reported with less information simply due to the government in China were actually the one withholding it....

Just because they do not use the word "Terrorist" in their report, it does not mean that they "Justified" the attack.

But then if you look at non-mainstream propaganda piece, then well, RT will always pro-Russia and Anti-US, Christian News will always be pro Christian and in a way, anti-China.

The west is fighting an international war on terrorism, it expects support and sympathy. China is fighting its own war on terrorism, it supports the western efforts against terrorists and offers condemnations whenever a terrorist attack happens on civilian targets. This is not case when terrorism happens in China, hardly any condemnations or support for China's anti terrorism efforts. There is a double standard. Your comparison also does not make any sense China is not fighting a war on drugs and condemning Mexico for fighting its own while condemning civilians.

I agree with you the media offers what citizens want to hear, however justifying terrorism or condemning the country affected by it is pretty low.

Again, with the "Justifying" part...........

Again, the question is, whether or not the west even "know" about these attack?

Those attack in China in the west would be called "Domestic" terrorism. Which basically in an internal thing. I am not saying those are not terror attack, but just that they are domestic terrorism.

On the other hand, US also had domestic terrorism problem, the question is, you will never hear about them (Domestic Attack in US) when you live all the way in China, as much as a person in US would not hear about any domestic attack in China.

That bring the question to my first post, if any domestic attack (West or China) worth reporting on the other part of the world? The answer is no, even tho you may not know it, but Domestic terrorism is 100 times more complicated to deal with in the US than international terrorism. But then again, it does not concern anyone that does not live in the domain.

What you are saying is that since the US does not response to attack in Xinjiang then they are looking like they "Justified" the attack, how about did you even know who is Shannon Richardson? Do you know she is an actor and a domestic terrorist? Or Did you know Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley, who killed 2 NYC police officer in a terrorist attack in New York (One of the Officer 刘文健 is a Chinese immigrant too)

So if China did not officially condemn what Shannon Richardson or Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley did, does that mean Chinese Government justifying US domestic Terrorism?

 

[TaiShang]

The west is fighting an international war on terrorism, it expects support and sympathy. China is fighting its own war on terrorism, it supports the western efforts against terrorists and offers condemnations whenever a terrorist attack happens on civilian targets. This is not case when terrorism happens in China, hardly any condemnations or support for China's anti terrorism efforts. There is a double standard. Your comparison also does not make any sense China is not fighting a war on drugs and condemning Mexico for fighting its own while condemning civilians.

I agree with you the media offers what citizens want to hear, however justifying terrorism or condemning the country affected by it is pretty low.

The problem with mainstream Western corporate media is that they are very much aligned with the geopolitical interests of the state. Now, this can be expected from VOA, which is supposed to be the voice of its owner.

But, when the US mainstream news media is so powerful and able to set or change the discourse and when they parrot the state line based on geopolitical interests, then you will have loads of suspects and attackers in acts of terror in China's Xinjiang while they are very quick to portray attacks on Western interests as act of terrorism by default.

I say "by default" because they do not have to get access to "miraculously" open Western governments to fathom out that the incident is an act of terrorism or not. From second one, day one, they paint a picture and set the discourse.

The question here is not whether the Western media attend to every criminal incident that happen in China. The question is about how the Western media sets the discourse with respect to mass events that they perceive as having geopolitical value for the state they represent.

Otherwise, I do not care how many NYC police officers are stabbed every day and it is very normal if they do not care what petty crime happened in China.

Like what happened in Oklahoma bombing incident, they first set the political tone and as the hard data came out, they unwillingly stated it, but the "Arab terrorist" discourse was already set in. This is in fact how they managed to manipulate average person's view to recruit enough support for their glorious war on terror in the 2000s.

I do not complain why the Western media is as it is. What is important is to know their tactics and strategy and thereby examine ourselves to fix the shortcomings.

This is not to become just like them when we gather enough power, but to have the required consciousness toward and thus immunity to the Western media's discourse terrorism.

Knowing is empowerment.

 

[beijingwalker]

Thousands of local villagers joined the hunt for the terrorists in Xinjiang

 

[oproh]

This is the right thing, citizens should be united in fighting terrorism.

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

good luck, find them and lynch them.. there should be zero tolerance for jihad.

 

[Zsari]

What is "Justifying" terrorism?

I can report an ISIS attack without condemning the attack itself, which is what News Organisation SHOULD do as they should stay neutral. So if a news report on an IS attack and does not condemn the attack, does that mean it "Justifying" terrorism?

You, as a viewer can be biased. However, a new report should be neutral. Whenever an attack is covered. I don't think those media outlet will condemn anything as they should report the news as it is. Justifying an attack can mean anything, but for news network, the only way they would justify an attack is as if they agree on the attack, which I don't know what kind of news outlet you watch in the west (or allegedly watch) they don't comment on news report here in the major attack

Washington Post
Terrorist attack on market in China’s restive Xinjiang region kills more than 30
​Terrorist attack on market in China’s restive Xinjiang region kills more than 30 - The Washington Post

BBC
Urumqi attack kills 31 in China's Xinjiang region
Urumqi attack kills 31 in China's Xinjiang region - BBC News

CNN
Terrorist attack kills dozens in China's tense Xinjiang region
Terrorist attack kills dozens in China's tense Xinjiang region - CNN.com

Associated Press
31 killed, 90-plus injured in Xinjiang attack
31 killed, 90-plus injured in Xinjiang attack - Yahoo News#

All of them are justifying the terrorist attack via the words of "Uyghur activists", another word for the spokesman for UWC. Would any of these media publish the statement from ISIS under the guise of "Islamic activists"?

 

[jhungary]

Washington Post
Terrorist attack on market in China’s restive Xinjiang region kills more than 30
Terrorist attack on market in China’s restive Xinjiang region kills more than 30 - The Washington Post

BBC
Urumqi attack kills 31 in China's Xinjiang region
Urumqi attack kills 31 in China's Xinjiang region - BBC News

CNN
Terrorist attack kills dozens in China's tense Xinjiang region
Terrorist attack kills dozens in China's tense Xinjiang region - CNN.com

Associated Press
31 killed, 90-plus injured in Xinjiang attack
31 killed, 90-plus injured in Xinjiang attack - Yahoo News#

All of them are justifying the terrorist attack via the words of "Uyghur activists", another word for the spokesman for UWC. Would any of these media publish the statement from ISIS under the guise of "Islamic activists"?

Are you blinded? Or have some kind of comprehension problem?

WASHINGTON POST

Terrorist attack on market in China’s restive Xinjiang region kills more than 30
Terrorist attack on market in China’s restive Xinjiang region kills more than 30 - The Washington Post

It already said Terrorist attack on the title, what more do you want?

BBC

Urumqi attack kills 31 in China's Xinjiang region
Urumqi attack kills 31 in China's Xinjiang region - BBC News

The Ministry of Public Security called it a "violent terrorist incident".

Again, it said on the article itself it WAS a terrorist attack.

CNN

Terrorist attack kills dozens in China's tense Xinjiang region
Terrorist attack kills dozens in China's tense Xinjiang region - CNN.com

Again, they already said it was a terrorist attack in the title, what more do you want?

Associated Press
31 killed, 90-plus injured in Xinjiang attack
31 killed, 90-plus injured in Xinjiang attack - Yahoo News#

The Xinjiang regional government said in a statement that the early morning attack in the city of Urumqi was "a serious violent terrorist incident of a particularly vile nature."

Basically the same piece of news on BBC, again, the article mentioned it was a Terrorist attack.

And also, calling them activist does not mean they are not terrorist, in the US, Domestic Terrorist Group are seldom called terrorist to begin with. They are

White Supremacist
Anarchist
Nationalist
Militant and also
Activists

British Islamist activists detained in Hungary to be deported to UK | World news | The Guardian


Just because they don't use the word "terrorist" that does not mean they are not terrorist. So, if an American News Network calling an IRA operative an Ireland Nationalist (Which by the way, is their official title) instead of terrorist on a bombing in Belfast, UK, then did the US "justified" the bombing?? Your logic is funny.

The word terrorist have a very board meaning, in fact, activists is called exclusively for eco and political/religious terrorist because both were activists in title..

 

[Brainsucker]

Why would the west care about terrorist or civilian kills in China? The same way did China care about War on Drug victim in Mexico? Or do people in China know how many people killed by Military Police in Brazilian favela?

Media report on news that their own people want to hear, so they would tune in, and so they sell ads time. How much do you care about the sphere out of your own influence? Do you know how many country have war going on? And ever wonder why your local TV station did not report any of those?

People in America is more sympatric to French, than to Chinese, hence people are more interested in news regarding the French then China, The same way people in US or Canada (Especially Canada) would care much more about what happened in France than what happened in China, unless the news in China comes with broadcasting value, there won't even be a slot time for those, simply there are only 30 minutes to 1 hour program, and you cannot possibly show news from all around the world and then what you have to do is to show news that you can sell.

The same way on Chinese media, how much you care or even know about what happened in Mexico, Columbia, Brazil or Argentina? In the US, they related a lot on the issue there, but I don't think China have any major relation toward those place and I don't see CCTV reporting on the relative of Mexico Provincial Sheriff was killed 2 weeks ago in a drug related hit. Nor the Bope (Rio SWAT) Operation in Rio leads to 4 civilian dead just a month prior. Those news would have no value to air in China, then can we also say China have double standard?

People in different country buy what they care, so if they don't care, they don't know and you cannot say since they don't care, then they have double standard amongst things, that's simply because we as human can't possibly care about all the things. What you think is of value does not mean they are in the other part of the world, and simply, You have to choose.

And what about you? Do you care about what happen to China? The killing in Kunming, the Mine, etc?

 

[Dungeness]

Read the comments section, the readers' reaction may just surprise you.

Chinese police shoot dead 28 from 'terrorist group' - Yahoo News