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Imagine if you replace chinese gov with US gov.
They you have real protests, killings and burnings.
But for China?
it is all a storm in a tea-cup. For now.
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The Chinese gov. didn't invade two souvereign Muslim majority countries and killing hundreds thousands of Muslims either. There are simply no comparisons.
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go look at venezulas and russias massive reserves you do the math.Russia, Venezuela with respect to Muslim nations..... You do the maths....
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But in the past you posted news about the majority of local Singaporeans are angry with foreigners, etc? Why change of heart?
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Arab/Muslim "love" for USA predates Iraq/Agh fiasco.
Read how US marines and Muslim tribes fought in West African Muslim run ports/areas. This happened few centuries ago.
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Does Islamabad have Israeli Embassy??
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I show my proper flag, and I have an unique account only. I joined PDF only to share my own point of view, not a funded guy.
Let's share truly thinking, feeling.
I want to know truly thinking of you, your friend, Chinese people.
Before visit Islamic countries, I have some different thinkings. Visit and share with others bring more truly knowledge to me.
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There is no change of heart. Singaporeans Chinese are foreigners in Muslim land and they always think we are Israel of East.
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Pakistan mum on Chinese ban on Ramadan fasting
Published: Sunday, 06 July 2014 14:32
ISLAMABAD: In a test case of diplomacy for Pakistan, which has always spoken out in support of Muslims the world over, it is staying clear of interference in the situation in the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang, where the Chinese Communist Party has reportedly placed restrictions on fasting especially on students and teachers for health reasons during the holy month of Ramadan.
Taking an admittedly uncharacteristic neutral position on the issue, Tasneem Aslam, the spokesperson at Pakistan Foreign Office said, “I have no confirmation that the media reports are true. I have no comments on speculative reports.”
The News reports that this is indeed a delicate and tricky issue for Islamabad which is Beijing’s closest ally. While always raising its voice in support of Muslims being suppressed around the globe, this is a major test for Pakistan whether to ignore or comment on this government ban, which it also sees as an internal matter of China.
So far, the ban on fasting appears to be targeting only students and teachers, as Islam is practiced in Xinjiang, an area where tensions between the government and Muslim population have occurred from time to time.
Citing health worries, a statement on the website of the “Number 3 Grade School” in Ruoqiang County in Xinjiang, said, “No teacher can participate in religious activities, instil religious thoughts in students or coerce students into religious activities.”
The news agency reported that cities in Xinjiang had set up news portals saying that fasting was detrimental to the physical well-being of young students, and have also called in retired teachers to stand guard at mosques in order to prevent students from entering.
China has thus far had a policy of non-interference as regards other countries, and sensitive issues with Pakistan have always been discussed behind closed doors. It is only lately that the local administration of Xinjiang has publicly taken issue with Pakistan for harbouring militants who travel from its Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) areas to strike inside Xinjiang.
Published: Sunday, 06 July 2014 14:32
ISLAMABAD: In a test case of diplomacy for Pakistan, which has always spoken out in support of Muslims the world over, it is staying clear of interference in the situation in the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang, where the Chinese Communist Party has reportedly placed restrictions on fasting especially on students and teachers for health reasons during the holy month of Ramadan.
Taking an admittedly uncharacteristic neutral position on the issue, Tasneem Aslam, the spokesperson at Pakistan Foreign Office said, “I have no confirmation that the media reports are true. I have no comments on speculative reports.”
The News reports that this is indeed a delicate and tricky issue for Islamabad which is Beijing’s closest ally. While always raising its voice in support of Muslims being suppressed around the globe, this is a major test for Pakistan whether to ignore or comment on this government ban, which it also sees as an internal matter of China.
So far, the ban on fasting appears to be targeting only students and teachers, as Islam is practiced in Xinjiang, an area where tensions between the government and Muslim population have occurred from time to time.
Citing health worries, a statement on the website of the “Number 3 Grade School” in Ruoqiang County in Xinjiang, said, “No teacher can participate in religious activities, instil religious thoughts in students or coerce students into religious activities.”
The news agency reported that cities in Xinjiang had set up news portals saying that fasting was detrimental to the physical well-being of young students, and have also called in retired teachers to stand guard at mosques in order to prevent students from entering.
China has thus far had a policy of non-interference as regards other countries, and sensitive issues with Pakistan have always been discussed behind closed doors. It is only lately that the local administration of Xinjiang has publicly taken issue with Pakistan for harbouring militants who travel from its Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) areas to strike inside Xinjiang.
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Pakistan mum on Chinese ban on Ramadan fasting
Published: Sunday, 06 July 2014 14:32
ISLAMABAD: In a test case of diplomacy for Pakistan, which has always spoken out in support of Muslims the world over, it is staying clear of interference in the situation in the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang, where the Chinese Communist Party has reportedly placed restrictions on fasting especially on students and teachers for health reasons during the holy month of Ramadan.
Taking an admittedly uncharacteristic neutral position on the issue, Tasneem Aslam, the spokesperson at Pakistan Foreign Office said, “I have no confirmation that the media reports are true. I have no comments on speculative reports.”
The News reports that this is indeed a delicate and tricky issue for Islamabad which is Beijing’s closest ally. While always raising its voice in support of Muslims being suppressed around the globe, this is a major test for Pakistan whether to ignore or comment on this government ban, which it also sees as an internal matter of China.
So far, the ban on fasting appears to be targeting only students and teachers, as Islam is practiced in Xinjiang, an area where tensions between the government and Muslim population have occurred from time to time.
Citing health worries, a statement on the website of the “Number 3 Grade School” in Ruoqiang County in Xinjiang, said, “No teacher can participate in religious activities, instil religious thoughts in students or coerce students into religious activities.”
The news agency reported that cities in Xinjiang had set up news portals saying that fasting was detrimental to the physical well-being of young students, and have also called in retired teachers to stand guard at mosques in order to prevent students from entering.
China has thus far had a policy of non-interference as regards other countries, and sensitive issues with Pakistan have always been discussed behind closed doors. It is only lately that the local administration of Xinjiang has publicly taken issue with Pakistan for harbouring militants who travel from its Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) areas to strike inside Xinjiang.
yaar, all these things are selective.
Would you as an Indian origin person, like for Pakistan to protest?
Just curious,.
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Breaking up with China?
By Rafia Zakaria
A Chinese Muslim man fans himself as he waits for the time to break his fast. -Photo by AP
It has been a long-standing love affair and there are numbers to prove it.
According to a Pew Research Center survey done just last year, the only country that loves China more than China itself, is Pakistan. Now, suddenly, there is news that threatens to fray these bonds of affection.
According to news reports, the Chinese Communist Party which has long placed restrictions on fasting in the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang has issued a ban on fasting. A Government website announced that all teachers, all students, and all civil servants would be banned from fasting in the month of Ramazan.
The ban is a sudden and severe curb on religious freedom in a province already often beleaguered by religious clashes and political unrest.
In one part of the region, retired school teachers were posted outside mosques to prevent students from entering the premises. In another, a school website announced that fasting could not be permitted because it was detrimental to student health.
The Bureau of Forestry in Xinjiang’s Zhaosu County held an event the day before Ramazan began in which party affiliates signed pledges saying that they and their family members would desist from fasting.
A weather bureau in the Hotan area of the province went even further announcing on its website that all Muslim employees would be required to sign a letter saying that they would not be fasting.
China does not have a stellar record of respecting the rights of minority religions. But this new ban and its accompanying restrictions are the most blatant curb on the freedom to practice religion seen in the country in recent days.
Back in 2012: 'China discourages fasting for Uighur Muslims'
At the same time, there is China’s long record of aid and alliance with Pakistan.
Not only has China been a longtime supporter of Pakistan’s nuclear program, it has recently also pledged to help bolster Pakistan’s civilian nuclear power capacity over the next five years. This includes the construction of a 2200MW nuclear power complex in Karachi that is forecasted to cost over 10 billion dollars.
China is also Pakistan’s largest supplier of military equipment and Beijing operates the strategic port of Gwadar in the Balochistan province.
On the civilian end, the two countries enjoy a free trade agreement, an accord signed last year created the “Pak-China Economic Corridor” The project which involved the construction of a 200 km tunnel, would connect Pakistan ironically to the very location of the problem, the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang.
As a Muslim country, Pakistan has been eager to stand up to the injustices committed against Muslims anywhere in the world. In most cases, these denunciations, whether they are of veil bans in France or pogroms in Gujarat, oft have not posed much of a challenge to the country’s strategic and economic interests.
This issue with China; its outright banning of what is a basic tenet of the Muslim faith may prove to be a trickier proposition.
From last year: 'Chinese anti-veil 'beauty' campaign sows ugly tensions'
Used to denouncing only the West and India, Pakistanis ignore the racism and human rights abuses perpetrated by those they consider to be their 'friends'.
In this respect, the condition of Muslims in Xinjiang requires the solidarity of others who believe in their rights of free exercise and the injustice of this ban.
At the same time, China’s actions against its Muslims are not that different from Pakistan’s indifference toward its own religious minorities.
Pakistani Hindus and Christians, while not facing outright bans, are used to being hounded, harassed and even killed. Viewed from this lens then, the Chinese and Pakistani positions on minorities are perhaps not that far apart; the difference only in the detail of which minority, Muslim, Hindu or Christian, bears the brunt of an intolerant state.
Hard as it may be on the poor Muslims of Xinjiang, this ban on fasting may not bring a break-up between Pakistan and China, becoming instead the wilful compromise on which marriages of convenience are built.
Rafia Zakaria is a columnist for DAWN. She is a writer and PhD candidate in Political Philosophy whose work and views have been featured in the New York Times, Dissent the Progressive, Guernica, and on Al Jazeera English, the BBC, and National Public Radio.
She is the author of Silence in Karachi, forthcoming from Beacon Press.
By Rafia Zakaria
A Chinese Muslim man fans himself as he waits for the time to break his fast. -Photo by AP
It has been a long-standing love affair and there are numbers to prove it.
According to a Pew Research Center survey done just last year, the only country that loves China more than China itself, is Pakistan. Now, suddenly, there is news that threatens to fray these bonds of affection.
According to news reports, the Chinese Communist Party which has long placed restrictions on fasting in the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang has issued a ban on fasting. A Government website announced that all teachers, all students, and all civil servants would be banned from fasting in the month of Ramazan.
The ban is a sudden and severe curb on religious freedom in a province already often beleaguered by religious clashes and political unrest.
In one part of the region, retired school teachers were posted outside mosques to prevent students from entering the premises. In another, a school website announced that fasting could not be permitted because it was detrimental to student health.
The Bureau of Forestry in Xinjiang’s Zhaosu County held an event the day before Ramazan began in which party affiliates signed pledges saying that they and their family members would desist from fasting.
A weather bureau in the Hotan area of the province went even further announcing on its website that all Muslim employees would be required to sign a letter saying that they would not be fasting.
China does not have a stellar record of respecting the rights of minority religions. But this new ban and its accompanying restrictions are the most blatant curb on the freedom to practice religion seen in the country in recent days.
Back in 2012: 'China discourages fasting for Uighur Muslims'
At the same time, there is China’s long record of aid and alliance with Pakistan.
Not only has China been a longtime supporter of Pakistan’s nuclear program, it has recently also pledged to help bolster Pakistan’s civilian nuclear power capacity over the next five years. This includes the construction of a 2200MW nuclear power complex in Karachi that is forecasted to cost over 10 billion dollars.
China is also Pakistan’s largest supplier of military equipment and Beijing operates the strategic port of Gwadar in the Balochistan province.
On the civilian end, the two countries enjoy a free trade agreement, an accord signed last year created the “Pak-China Economic Corridor” The project which involved the construction of a 200 km tunnel, would connect Pakistan ironically to the very location of the problem, the Chinese Muslim province of Xinjiang.
As a Muslim country, Pakistan has been eager to stand up to the injustices committed against Muslims anywhere in the world. In most cases, these denunciations, whether they are of veil bans in France or pogroms in Gujarat, oft have not posed much of a challenge to the country’s strategic and economic interests.
This issue with China; its outright banning of what is a basic tenet of the Muslim faith may prove to be a trickier proposition.
From last year: 'Chinese anti-veil 'beauty' campaign sows ugly tensions'
Used to denouncing only the West and India, Pakistanis ignore the racism and human rights abuses perpetrated by those they consider to be their 'friends'.
In this respect, the condition of Muslims in Xinjiang requires the solidarity of others who believe in their rights of free exercise and the injustice of this ban.
At the same time, China’s actions against its Muslims are not that different from Pakistan’s indifference toward its own religious minorities.
Pakistani Hindus and Christians, while not facing outright bans, are used to being hounded, harassed and even killed. Viewed from this lens then, the Chinese and Pakistani positions on minorities are perhaps not that far apart; the difference only in the detail of which minority, Muslim, Hindu or Christian, bears the brunt of an intolerant state.
Hard as it may be on the poor Muslims of Xinjiang, this ban on fasting may not bring a break-up between Pakistan and China, becoming instead the wilful compromise on which marriages of convenience are built.
Rafia Zakaria is a columnist for DAWN. She is a writer and PhD candidate in Political Philosophy whose work and views have been featured in the New York Times, Dissent the Progressive, Guernica, and on Al Jazeera English, the BBC, and National Public Radio.
She is the author of Silence in Karachi, forthcoming from Beacon Press.
Pakistan could do a lot of things to force Chinese to treat their Muslims better. Pakistan should threaten to break-off all defense related cooperation with China Viz. stop buying their fighter jets, warships etc. Pakistan can also threaten to close the Gwadar port or the stop all trade with China.
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Would you suggest Pakistanis do the same to India, the next time a BJP leader starts a bad policy.
We should then shut the borders down, break off all the diplomatic ties, and ban Indian posters from PDF
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Isn't Pakistan already been doing that? What happened to whole issue of giving MFN status?Would you suggest Pakistanis do the same to India, the next time a BJP leader starts a bad policy.
We should then shut the borders down, break off all the diplomatic ties, and ban Indian posters from PDF
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