Xi: There is no gene for invasion in our blood

[Nike]

The 9-dash line is a historical reference that need to be discussed between relevant party. I want to remind you that the US didn't ratify UNCLOS and we did. We like to have maritime flexibility within the 9-dash line just as the US will not ratify UNCLOS to keep their flexibility in their NAVY operation.

It is not a disputed territory. You have no control over anything. You cannot just turn back and call any territory that others control a "dispute", then it means a dispute in international law. That is the equivalent of Columbia claiming Virgin Island a "dispute" with the US, do you think the world or the US will listen? No, that is not how international law works. The dispute territory must not be control by other party to consider a dispute. We control fullly, 100% since 40 years ago. It is fait accompli. What done is done.

Hoho, so it was settle then, Senkaku was in the hand of Japanese since Shimonoseki treaty had been ratified. Your and Taiwanese claim will be illegal based on your theory beforehand

 

[xunzi]

Hoho, so it was settle then, Senkaku was in the hand of Japanese since Shimonoseki treaty had been ratified. Your and Taiwanese claim will be illegal based on your theory beforehand

The treaty of San Francisco in 1945 superseded any unequal treaty sign with Japan in 1895. Japan agreed to the treaty to return all territories back and accept the Allied demand that they shall only maintain the 4 main islands. This is one of the reason why Japan cannot legally sue Russian in Kuril Island. Nice try, thought.

Your country will be ready with Vietnam go to an international tribunal to resolve disputes over the Paracel Islands?
Both will have the opportunity to show evidences at there.

And if you lose the case, are you willing to stop your unreasonable claim?

 

[Nike]

The treaty of San Francisco in 1945 superseded any unequal treaty sign with Japan in 1895. Japan agreed to the treaty to return all territories back and accept the Allied demand that they shall only maintain the 4 main islands. This is one of the reason why Japan cannot legally sue Russian in Kuril Island. Nice try, thought.


And if you lose the case, are you willing to stop your unreasonable claim?

Are Chinese the ones to put the Japan under pressure in San Francisco treaty? It was USA, and USA with Sovyet Union is the one who make the Japan surrender, not the Chinese. Japan just obliged to USA allied forces and Sovyet Union, not to the PRC. Oh hey, your People Republic doesn't exist before time, it still Republic of China and which you crushed them in Civil war. Nice try thought

 

[fromdesert]

Consider the map of Qing and our current map, it is a shame that we lost 10% of our inherent territory. But you see? We will not complain and reclaim them as we accept the current border settlement with relevant party, except India. On the sea side, Paracel had never been under North VN. We retake what belong to us only. Tibet and Xinjiang are inherent territory that belong to our country historically, even the West will not dispute that fact.

A boder that was drawn by someone at 1948, you call that is history. you tell that it be long to you. some European Country,
Portugal, Spain may be lost the earth.

 

[xunzi]

Are Chinese the ones to put the Japan under pressure in San Francisco treaty? It was USA, and USA with Sovyet Union is the one who make the Japan surrender, not the Chinese. Japan just obliged to USA allied forces and Sovyet Union, not to the PRC. Oh hey, your People Republic doesn't exist before time, it still Republic of China and which you crushed them in Civil war. Nice try thought

The Allied consist of 5 members who are UN security Counselor. Japan agreed to the condition set by the Allied. Fact is fact. You cannot twist fact. KMT-ROC and CPC-PRC are concurrent representatiive during WWII. We are in the mid of civil war and the ultimate representation of China was won by CPC-PRC. Learn history, my friend. Keep trying, though.

A boder that was drawn by someone at 1948, you call that is history. you tell that it be long to you. some European Country,
Portugal, Spain may be lost the earth.

When we made the 9-dash line, why nobody make a big fuss over it. Why now?

 

[Beast]

A boder that was drawn by someone at 1948, you call that is history. you tell that it be long to you. some European Country,
Portugal, Spain may be lost the earth.

Portugal, spain has the ability to hold onto their boundaries line. Vietnam don't.

Throw away your 70s and 80s mentality and accept the rise of China. Welcome to 2014.

When US invaded Iraqi 2003, does US needs the approval of UN? Until now that invasion is still illegal. I hope you do not bank too much to so called international law. Law is dictated by winner.

 

[BoQ77]

The 9-dash line is a historical reference that need to be discussed between relevant party. I want to remind you that the US didn't ratify UNCLOS and we did. We like to have maritime flexibility within the 9-dash line just as the US will not ratify UNCLOS to keep their flexibility in their NAVY operation.

It is not a disputed territory. You have no control over anything. You cannot just turn back and call any territory that others control a "dispute", then it means a dispute in international law. That is the equivalent of Columbia claiming Virgin Island a "dispute" with the US, do you think the world or the US will listen? No, that is not how international law works. The dispute territory must not be control by other party to consider a dispute. We control fullly, 100% since 40 years ago. It is fait accompli. What done is done.

historical invented by Taiwanese not you !

do you means Senkaku island is historical ... and you never claime it last 100 years

When we made the 9-dash line, why nobody make a big fuss over it. Why now?

The unknown guy made 9 dashed line , by mark it with pen onto a printed map ,,, and keep in his chest ... who know ?
China never explain about it ... clearly. I heard that USA requesting China to explain it
officially, China reveal it in 2009 as give to UN

 

[Nike]

The Allied consist of 5 members who are UN security Counselor. Japan agreed to the condition set by the Allied. Fact is fact. You cannot twist fact. KMT-ROC and CPC-PRC are concurrent representatiive during WWII. We are in the mid of civil war and the ultimate representation of China was won by CPC-PRC. Learn history, my friend. Keep trying, though.


When we made the 9-dash line, why nobody make a big fuss over it. Why now?

The fact is Japan still occupying Senkaku, the Allied never made a fuss against them since San Francisco treaty has been ratified, and until 70's China starting to make a fuss about Senkaku. But no one give a ****. Then recently you made a noise again over Senkaku. Why waiting so long? Then Japan argued they had effective occupation for the last centuries, finally the same argument when China claims Paracel islands from Vietnam based on effective occupation. Nice try though

 

[t_for_talli]

Indian invaded and occupied kashmir. Simple. All the population living inside kashmir are muslim. Don't lie and say they volunteering to join the Hindu gang themselves.

So what?? this proves that u know nothing about Kashmir
There are lot of areas in India where Muslims are in majority
This is what u r taught that Muslims cannot be Indians

 

[B+ Dracula]

India entered Kashmir on request of the king of Kashmir to prevent Pakistani invasion of Kashmir, and that too only after he signed the accession papers to join India. This has been discussed a thousand times here, read the old threads and get educated instead of starting another mindless debate on this. Same advise to @Beast .

What a Worthless answer I ever have....
World BiggA$$ Democratic India Favoring Kashmir KING?? It is an INSULT for the Local Residents of Kashmir
Kashmir KING is Son of GOD!!! ...U following his HOLY Cow Shit ORDERS?? Is that make any sense in a modern world of 21st Century
.
Come to the ointt, "MIGHT IS RIGHT"
If what you done in Kashmir is ...OK
then what we're doing right now in Kashmir is BIG OK

 

[Beast]

The fact is Japan still occupying Senkaku, the Allied never made a fuss against them since San Francisco treaty has been ratified, and until 70's China starting to make a fuss about Senkaku. But no one give a ****. Then recently you made a noise again over Senkaku. Why waiting so long? Then Japan argued they had effective occupation for the last centuries, finally the same argument when China claims Paracel islands from Vietnam based on effective occupation. Nice try though

Diayutai was under US occupation until they handed over the ownership to Japan in the 70s. That is why we start to make a fuss over it and claim ownership. Diayutai is part of Taiwan until Japan annex Taiwan in 1895.

 

[fromdesert]

Diayutai was under US occupation until they handed over the ownership to Japan in the 70s. That is why we start to make a fuss over it and claim ownership. Diayutai is part of Taiwan until Japan annex Taiwan in 1895.

Japan occupied Okinawa, Okinawa belong to Japan, If it really belong to china then when Japan surrenders allied why didnt china take it back?

 

[steelseries779]

Japan occupied Okinawa, Okinawa belong to Japan, If it really belong to china then when Japan surrenders allied why didnt china take it back?

The US did want to give it to China, but Chiang Kai-shek didn't accept it. He was afraid of any collateral protocol that will be proposed by the US, as something for return.

 

[Knight of Tang]

Let me tell you what is the fact, Diaoyu island has always been claimed by PRC and it was settled with a common understanding that the dispute should be passed to the future when China normalized diplomatic relationship with Japan in 1972. It was Japan who broke the status quo with the action of nationalize the Diaoyu island in 2012. That's why the issue was on the table right now, and our coast guard maintained a routinely patrol within 12 miles of the Diaoyu island these days, is that what you call an "effective occupation" by Japan?
pls don't ever show your ignorance off as the individual character...not cool at all.

The fact is Japan still occupying Senkaku, the Allied never made a fuss against them since San Francisco treaty has been ratified, and until 70's China starting to make a fuss about Senkaku. But no one give a ****. Then recently you made a noise again over Senkaku. Why waiting so long? Then Japan argued they had effective occupation for the last centuries, finally the same argument when China claims Paracel islands from Vietnam based on effective occupation. Nice try though

 

[Rechoice]

Let me tell you what is the fact, Diaoyu island has always been claimed by PRC and it was settled with a common understanding that the dispute should be passed to the future when China normalized diplomatic relationship with Japan in 1972. It was Japan who broke the status quo with the action of nationalize the Diaoyu island in 2012. That's why the issue was on the table right now, and our coast guard maintained a routinely patrol within 12 miles of the Diaoyu island these days, is that what you call an "effective occupation" by Japan?
pls don't ever show your ignorance off as the individual character...not cool at all.

Surrender document of Japan, Japan given up control on Taiwan and Panghu only. Japan did not given up right over Senkaku.

Do you understand that the drilling platform fall just 17 miles off Paracel and only 30 miles off Woody Island. It is 120 off your closest island facing east and 150 miles from your coast. In international law, such as UNCLOS, a settlement on overlap EEZ will be the midpoint equidistant of two territories. 120 miles from your closest de factor island + 17 miles from de facto island from us = 137 miles will split into half which you can only maintain an EEZ control for about 70 miles West (from 1-70 miles out) while 71-140 miles East are under our EEZ on Paracel. Under this potential settlement, 17 miles is still falling under our continental shelf, not your.

Hoang Sa is Islands of Vietnam, China illegally occupied with force. China EZZ is calculated from coast of Hainan Island.


Mark stone of Vietnam in the past.