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World's Most Powerful Frenemies Come Together For Joint Naval ExercisesGeoffrey Ingersoll | Mar. 7, 2013, 11:23 AM | 5,344 | 12

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The United States and China recently kicked off a joint counter-piracy naval exercise near Pakistan in what is quickly becoming the most bizarre relationship between two nations in recent history.

The five-day exercise, called "Peace 13" or "Aman 13," is in concert with 14 participating nations, 20 observer nations, and is what Pakistan bills as necessary to widen and maintain oil trade routes from the Strait of Hormuz.

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Pakistan recently approved a Singapore company's selling of an Arabian Sea port to China, in what has been China's recent frenzied bid to expand it's dominance in the area — so frenzied, in fact, that it brazenly vows to "wear out" one of America's closest allies, Japan.

Chinese frigates on a different side of the world are focused on wearing down their smaller Japanese antagonist, Reuters reports. Japan's lighter navy, constantly on watch, is tiring due to the constant deployment and redeployment of Chinese frigates.

Meanwhile state-media in China posts photos of the Japanese Isles it wants and runs commentaries calling for all-out war. Even their military generals have become decidedly hawkish in their recent comments — saying they should "kill a chicken to intimidate some monkeys" (interpret that how you will).

On the U.S. side, the navy practices counter-piracy with China and focuses on pivoting upward of 60 percent of its forces toward "the Pacific" — in what many analysts believe is many to counter Chinese influence.

It may also be to put naval "triad" nuclear assets — submarines — closer to Chinese mainland. A recent report out of the Defense Science Board recommended a boosting and hardening of nuclear capabilities, in order to improve the credibility of the "nuclear threat as a deterrent." A deterrent, in particular, for what it calls "Existential Cyber Attacks" — attacks that could cause the president to "lose control of the country." Oddly, the phrase existential cyber attacks appears 8 times, nuclear appears 113 times, and China not even once.

Yet the report appeared first in a Washington Post article March 5, just three weeks following a groundbreaking Mandiant report about the Chinese Army hacking American companies and infrastructure.

(The American government said it was both aware of the Mandiant investigation and the Defense Science Board report a long time ago.)


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As if to make matters more strange, while all this hacking and espionage and investigation and pivoting was going on, the U.S. was conducting regular secret cyber war games with China. The games are aimed at deterrence and prevention of escalation.

Though the war games and studies are held in secret, the statements by officials on both sides have been brutally public — generals calling for war, American politicians calling for sanctions while the Pentagon indirectly reminds China of its nukes.

The relationship has become a passive-aggressive rope-a-dope, except with potentially catastrophic consequences.

Hopefully these bizarre frenemies remain just a sideshow, and not the main event.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-china-conduct-joint-exercise-2013-3#ixzz2NFIsvS1y
 
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World's Most Powerful Frenemies Come Together For Joint Naval ExercisesGeoffrey Ingersoll | Mar. 7, 2013, 11:23 AM | 5,344 | 12

chinese_navy_excercise.gif

Larry Downing//Getty Images



The United States and China recently kicked off a joint counter-piracy naval exercise near Pakistan in what is quickly becoming the most bizarre relationship between two nations in recent history.

The five-day exercise, called "Peace 13" or "Aman 13," is in concert with 14 participating nations, 20 observer nations, and is what Pakistan bills as necessary to widen and maintain oil trade routes from the Strait of Hormuz.

16997357376192168498.jpg

9879689308423836443.jpg

12963265355537185980.jpg

15711003153342391841.jpg


Pakistan recently approved a Singapore company's selling of an Arabian Sea port to China, in what has been China's recent frenzied bid to expand it's dominance in the area — so frenzied, in fact, that it brazenly vows to "wear out" one of America's closest allies, Japan.

Chinese frigates on a different side of the world are focused on wearing down their smaller Japanese antagonist, Reuters reports. Japan's lighter navy, constantly on watch, is tiring due to the constant deployment and redeployment of Chinese frigates.

Meanwhile state-media in China posts photos of the Japanese Isles it wants and runs commentaries calling for all-out war. Even their military generals have become decidedly hawkish in their recent comments — saying they should "kill a chicken to intimidate some monkeys" (interpret that how you will).

On the U.S. side, the navy practices counter-piracy with China and focuses on pivoting upward of 60 percent of its forces toward "the Pacific" — in what many analysts believe is many to counter Chinese influence.

It may also be to put naval "triad" nuclear assets — submarines — closer to Chinese mainland. A recent report out of the Defense Science Board recommended a boosting and hardening of nuclear capabilities, in order to improve the credibility of the "nuclear threat as a deterrent." A deterrent, in particular, for what it calls "Existential Cyber Attacks" — attacks that could cause the president to "lose control of the country." Oddly, the phrase existential cyber attacks appears 8 times, nuclear appears 113 times, and China not even once.

Yet the report appeared first in a Washington Post article March 5, just three weeks following a groundbreaking Mandiant report about the Chinese Army hacking American companies and infrastructure.

(The American government said it was both aware of the Mandiant investigation and the Defense Science Board report a long time ago.)


U86P4T426D182140F16470DT20130308223103.jpg

U86P4T426D182141F16470DT20130308223133.jpg

U86P4T426D182139F16470DT20130308222924.jpg



As if to make matters more strange, while all this hacking and espionage and investigation and pivoting was going on, the U.S. was conducting regular secret cyber war games with China. The games are aimed at deterrence and prevention of escalation.

Though the war games and studies are held in secret, the statements by officials on both sides have been brutally public — generals calling for war, American politicians calling for sanctions while the Pentagon indirectly reminds China of its nukes.

The relationship has become a passive-aggressive rope-a-dope, except with potentially catastrophic consequences.

Hopefully these bizarre frenemies remain just a sideshow, and not the main event.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-china-conduct-joint-exercise-2013-3#ixzz2NFIsvS1y

Lol. I see what they did there. :woot:
 
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LOL where are the nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers? Where are the Marines?

I wonder how many pirates operate in the region, so 14 nations need to join their forces, carrying out this propaganda show "counter-piracy naval exercise".

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obviously China got love for pakistan so they came even Japan was their thank you China, the writer must be you know who

:china:

LOL where are the nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers? Where are the Marines?

I wonder how many pirates operate in the region, so 14 nations need to join their forces, carrying out this propaganda show "counter-piracy naval exercise".

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it is in some what pirate safe waters where they needed the excersise to be conducted and in case of medical emergency they have access to a real hospital not some field make shift military hospital out in the open Sea in hostile water
 
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@bigzgvr4

So you want to scare potential pirates who come with small speed boats by mighty warships?
The article rather assumes a show of force between America and China.

A show, nothing more. :hitwall:
 
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@bigzgvr4

So you want to scare potential pirates who come with small speed boats by mighty warships?
The article rather assumes a show of force between America and China.

A show, nothing more. :hitwall:

THE article is written by some one who dont know sqaut this type of pirate based war games had been done before hence the name AMAN-13 (peace-13)

and in any war game you place safety first so giving the scope of this they have live fire air assualt and boat assualt a lot can go wrong so they did it in a friendly water and the article is written by some Fox news Fan
 
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Meanwhile state-media in China posts photos of the Japanese Isles it wants and runs commentaries calling for all-out war. Even their military generals have become decidedly hawkish in their recent comments — saying they should "kill a chicken to intimidate some monkeys" (interpret that how you will).

Perhaps they are just too ignorant to know that this is a Chinese proverb which means "to make an example of our enemy".
 
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China to attend major US-hosted naval exercises, but role limited

China's People's Liberation Army has accepted an invitation to participate for the first time in a major U.S.-hosted naval drill, but legal restrictions will limit its role to less sensitive exercises, like disaster relief, U.S. officials say.

Beijing's agreement to join the drills being held next year comes at a moment of heightened tensions between China and U.S. ally Japan over disputed East China Sea islets, and unease in the United States about China's rapid military buildup and its cyber capabilities.

The Rim of the Pacific exercise, known as RIMPAC, is billed as the world's largest international maritime exercise, with 22 nations and more than 40 ships and submarines participating the last time it was held off Hawaii in 2012.

Not all the participants are treaty allies with the United States. Last year's participants included Russia and India.

But China has never participated in the event, although it did send observers to RIMPAC in 1998, the Pentagon said.

Deputy Defense Secretary Ashton Carter acknowledged China had agreed to participate in RIMPAC during a little-noticed speech on Wednesday in Jakarta. Carter said he was "delighted that they have accepted" the American invitation, extended last year by then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

At the time, Panetta said he asked China to send a ship to the exercises. Beijing said later it would give the offer "positive consideration.

"We seek to strengthen and grow our military-to-military relationship with China, which matches and follows our growing political and economic relationship," Carter said, according to prepared remarks on the Defense Department's website.

U.S. law prohibits the Pentagon from any military contacts with the PLA if it could "create a national security risk due to an inappropriate exposure" to activities including joint combat operations.

There is an exemption for operations or exercises related to search and rescue and humanitarian relief, and China participated with the United States last year in a counter-piracy drill.

Lieutenant Colonel Catherine Wilkinson, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said China's participation in RIMPAC would adhere to U.S. law and noted precautions taken by the Navy in drills to avoid revealing sensitive information.

"The U.S. Navy has operational security safeguards to protect U.S. technology and tactics, techniques and procedures from disclosure," Wilkinson said.

Dean Cheng, an analyst at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank, questioned whether Chinese intelligence operatives would not benefit from their participation in RIMPAC, which also includes live-fire exercises by key U.S. allies.

"If they have a frigate, or even a hospital ship, in the middle of that exercise, the hospital ship is going to be staffed by intelligence officers," Cheng said.

He noted that if the drills were designed in a way that was unhelpful to the Chinese, they would also be unhelpful to allies.

Wilkinson declined to speculate about which drills China might participate in, noting the agenda had not yet been set for next year's event.

"U.S.-China military-to-military engagements can include a range of activities in areas of mutual interest including maritime security, military medicine and humanitarian assistance/disaster relief," she said.

Commander Charles Brown, a spokesman for the Navy's Third Fleet, said the initial planning conference for RIMPAC 2014 would take place in May.

"We're proud of our ability to design an exercise that everyone feels meets their objectives and is comfortable with," Brown said.

China to attend major US-hosted naval exercises, but role limited | The Nation
 
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