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[beijingwalker]

So no Uyghurs were sent to any re-education camp you're saying.

China doesn't have camps, China does have 学习班， which every province, city and even neighobrhood community has, and it has nothing to with with minority groups or any specific province, you basically know nothing about China other than some western propaganda.

 

[AViet]

No, he probably acts like a sensible human being that knows China is a pretty much an evil regime with many human rights problems, but at the same time has many accomplishments in science and technology.

I used to respect Israel (together with Germany, as the only two countries in the Western world) a lot but my feeling is hurt when I see you now acting like Indian (not only on this forum). Always thought that Israeli people were smart and practical, not delusional, chest-thumping like low-IQ people.

Recently going through a paper from Israel news about China so-called copied Israeli technology from Lavi for J-10 aircraft (which related to China selling 25 J-10C to Pakistan).

i still cannot understand, aside from appearance, what China actually "copied" from Israel, and what technologies did (and does) Israel have on an aircraft to make China copy from you. Probably what Israel can do was just some design (with US help, because you are not capable to design alone for sure without necessary facilities like wind tunnel), assembly with 99% imported parts and painting job.

 

[Beny Karachun]

i still cannot understand, aside from appearance, what China actually "copied" from Israel, and what technologies did (and does) Israel have on an aircraft to make China copy from you. Probably what Israel can do was just some design (with US help, because you are not capable to design alone for sure without necessary facilities like wind tunnel), assembly with 99% imported parts and painting job.

I will not even talk to you about your first part. Us Jews, and particularly Ashkenazi Jews, are factually the people with the highest IQ on average, more than any other ethnic group anywhere in the world, you are in no position to call us low IQ.

China definitely had a lot to do with the IAI Lavi.
I have no idea about the details, but the Lavi had an advanced fly by wire system, advanced (for the time) Elta radar, jamming systems, Heads Up Display, mission computer, internal navigation system, integrated the Python 3 (Which China also purchased from Israel in 1983, ), all of those were developed and built in Israel.

Israel has wind tunnels and tested the Lavi with them

The IAI Wind Tunnels Center is a National Center aimed to enhance the development of airborne platforms that comprises three state-of-the-art wind tunnels - the Subsonic, the Trisonic and the Hypersonic tunnels, covering velocity range from 0 to 12 Mach.

The IAI Wind Tunnels Center has over 40 years of experience in performing a variety of Aerodynamics Tests for civil and military programs, including the LAVI aircraft, the Arrow & Barak Missiles, the G-200, G-280 business jets etc. performed by our experts and experienced team that is obliged to the most accurate results.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/wind-tunnels-center

 

[mudas777]

No, he probably acts like a sensible human being that knows China is a pretty much an evil regime with many human rights problems, but at the same time has many accomplishments in science and technology.

Like the West and the Israeli's are saints and virgins of the 21st century human rights singing and dancing groovy train. Clown.
For the China jury is still out but for the Israeli's and the US its open and shut case for the committal of the genocides.

 

[Beny Karachun]

China doesn't have camps, China does have 学习班， which every province, city and even neighobrhood community has, and it has nothing to with with minority groups or any specific province, you basically know nothing about China other than some western propaganda.

China has learning classes?

They provide uniforms that are awfully close to prisoner uniforms.

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[beijingwalker]

China has learning classes?
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They provide uniforms that are awfully close to prisoner uniforms.

'What is happening here?' Chinese ambassador confronted with 'not beautiful' footage

China's ambassador to the UK has struggled to explain confronting footage of shackled prisoners being herde...

www.9news.com.au

So your country doesn't have prisons and criminals, really?

 

[Beny Karachun]

So your country doesn't have prisons and criminals, really?

Our prisoners actually commit crimes, and are not sent into camps for being in a certain minority group.

Honestly our prison system is underwhelming, prisoners enjoy many benefits and can even get an academic degree while serving their time.
I'm not talking about just regular prisoners, I'm talking about full fledged terrorists that killed many people.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's smart at all, prison should be a punishment for terrorists.

 

[MH.Yang]

I will not even talk to you about your first part. Us Jews, and particularly Ashkenazi Jews, are factually the people with the highest IQ on average, more than any other ethnic group anywhere in the world, you are in no position to call us low IQ.

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China definitely had a lot to do with the IAI Lavi.
I have no idea about the details, but the Lavi had an advanced fly by wire system, advanced (for the time) Elta radar, jamming systems, Heads Up Display, mission computer, internal navigation system, integrated the Python 3 (Which China also purchased from Israel in 1983, ), all of those were developed and built in Israel.

Israel has wind tunnels and tested the Lavi with them

The IAI Wind Tunnels Center is a National Center aimed to enhance the development of airborne platforms that comprises three state-of-the-art wind tunnels - the Subsonic, the Trisonic and the Hypersonic tunnels, covering velocity range from 0 to 12 Mach.

The IAI Wind Tunnels Center has over 40 years of experience in performing a variety of Aerodynamics Tests for civil and military programs, including the LAVI aircraft, the Arrow & Barak Missiles, the G-200, G-280 business jets etc. performed by our experts and experienced team that is obliged to the most accurate results.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/wind-tunnels-center

The average IQ of Israelis is 95, not as good as that of Vietnamese.

 

[beijingwalker]

Our prisoners actually commit crimes, and are not sent into camps for being in a certain minority group.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=terrorist+attacks+in+xinjiang

Everyone knows that Israel kills civiian including women and children, don't try to play saint here.
And if radical extremists got their way in Xinjiang, the first they would like to destroy will be Israel, be careful what you wish for.

 

[Beny Karachun]

The average IQ of Israelis is 95, not as good as that of Vietnamese.
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You measure the IQ of an ethnically diverse country in an attempt to prove me wrong when I said Jews are the smartest people. This clearly demonstrates the gap in IQ.

Israel has 25% non-Jewish population, mostly Arab Muslims, and 40% of the Jews in Israel are not Ashkenazi, so of course the average IQ, which includes said Arabs which vastly lower the average IQ, and the non-Ashkenazi Jews that would probably average a bit more than 100, would be lower.

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data. They score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average, corresponding to an IQ 112-115. This has been seen in many studies (Backman, 1972; Levinson, 1959; Romanoff, 1976), although a recent review concludes that the advantage is slightly less, only half a standard deviation Lynn (2004). This fact has social significance because IQ (as measured by IQ tests) is the best predictor we have of success in academic subjects and most jobs. Ashkenazi Jews are just as successful as their tested IQ would predict, and they are hugely overrepresented in occupations and fields with the highest cognitive demands. During the 20th century, they made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.

There are as many Israeli nobel prize winners as there are Chinese ones. The difference is just 1.4 billion people.

 

[beijingwalker]

You measure the IQ of an ethnically diverse country in an attempt to prove me wrong when I said Jews are the smartest people. This clearly demonstrates the gap in IQ.

Israel has 25% non-Jewish population, mostly Arab Muslims, and 40% of the Jews in Israel are not Ashkenazi, so of course the average IQ, which includes said Arabs which vastly lower the average IQ, and the non-Ashkenazi Jews that would probably average a bit more than 100, would be lower.

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data. They score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average, corresponding to an IQ 112-115. This has been seen in many studies (Backman, 1972; Levinson, 1959; Romanoff, 1976), although a recent review concludes that the advantage is slightly less, only half a standard deviation Lynn (2004). This fact has social significance because IQ (as measured by IQ tests) is the best predictor we have of success in academic subjects and most jobs. Ashkenazi Jews are just as successful as their tested IQ would predict, and they are hugely overrepresented in occupations and fields with the highest cognitive demands. During the 20th century, they made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.

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There are as many Israeli nobel prize winners as there are Chinese ones. The difference is just 1.4 billion people.

We don't really care about this western oriented award, Nobel peace prize is ofter awarded to the world biggest murderers and anti China activists, it's more of joke in China, we have our own awards to our top scientists.

 

[Beny Karachun]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=terrorist+attacks+in+xinjiang

Everyone knows that Israel kills civiian including women and children, don't try to play saint here.
And if radical extremists got their way in Xinjiang, the first they would like to destroy will be Israel, be careful what you wish for.

Again, the question is who is to blame for any innocents dead. I claim that Hamas is responsible for it since they do military activities near civilians purposefully.


Don't get me wrong, I know how Muslim minorities usually act world wide. As if they deserve everything and forget who is the owner of the country. I would even support Chinese actions if they didn't go to such extreme measures as forcefully sending so many of them into camps.

It would be hypocritical of me as a Jew to support such actions due to obvious reasons.

We don't really care about this western oriented award, Nobel peace prize is ofter awarded to the world biggest murderers and anti China activists, it's more of joke in China, we have our own awards to our top scientists.

Nobel prize isn't western oriented, it's global. Significant enough breakthroughs would get you a nobel prize regardless of your country.

The science community knows no politics as it should.

We don't really care about this western oriented award, Nobel peace prize is ofter awarded to the world biggest murderers and anti China activists, it's more of joke in China, we have our own awards to our top scientists.

Anyways, you're missing my point.
Regardless, Ashkenazi Jews are factually the smartest ethnic group on the planet and I bet most Chinese citizens know Jews for being smart.

 

[MH.Yang]

You measure the IQ of an ethnically diverse country in an attempt to prove me wrong when I said Jews are the smartest people. This clearly demonstrates the gap in IQ.

Israel has 25% non-Jewish population, mostly Arab Muslims, and 40% of the Jews in Israel are not Ashkenazi, so of course the average IQ, which includes said Arabs which vastly lower the average IQ, and the non-Ashkenazi Jews that would probably average a bit more than 100, would be lower.

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data. They score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average, corresponding to an IQ 112-115. This has been seen in many studies (Backman, 1972; Levinson, 1959; Romanoff, 1976), although a recent review concludes that the advantage is slightly less, only half a standard deviation Lynn (2004). This fact has social significance because IQ (as measured by IQ tests) is the best predictor we have of success in academic subjects and most jobs. Ashkenazi Jews are just as successful as their tested IQ would predict, and they are hugely overrepresented in occupations and fields with the highest cognitive demands. During the 20th century, they made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.

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There are as many Israeli nobel prize winners as there are Chinese ones. The difference is just 1.4 billion people.

Nobel Prize is the result of professional efforts. It can only show that the education in Germany and other countries is excellent, not IQ.

If Jews have a high IQ, why have they been discriminated against and enslaved by mankind for thousands of years, wandering everywhere and living in no fixed place, and almost extinct in World War II? Have Jews achieved outstanding results in various intellectual games and Olympic competitions? No.
So Jewish IQ is not high.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Nobel Prize is the result of professional efforts. It can only show that the education in Germany and other countries is excellent, not IQ.

If Jews have a high IQ, why have they been discriminated against and enslaved by mankind for thousands of years, wandering everywhere and living in no fixed place, and almost extinct in World War II? Have Jews achieved outstanding results in various intellectual games and Olympic competitions? No.
So Jewish IQ is not high.

Again with your naiveness, how would you explain the fact Jews produce much more nobel prizes relative to their population, in all countries with major Jewish population? If the only factor would be the education of the said country, why are Jews more successful than non-Jews? They both enjoy the same education according to you.

And even that is wrong, Jews usually study in Hebrew schools, separate from the rest of the schools up until the university.

IQ is a measure that directly predicts academic success and academic success implies higher IQ. Ashkenazi Jews have on average an IQ of 115 and their academic success is in accordance with that measure.

You're confusing the cause with the effect. Jewish IQ is caused by the discrimination and enslavement we suffered. Jews weren't allowed to own land and had to work in more business and intelligence oriented jobs. Killings of Jews generally left out Jews that were smart enough to evade death.
That resulted in a loop, hatred of Jews led to smarter Jews that led to hatred of Jewish success and so on.

If you read what I said, you would have known that over half of the world's chess champions are Jewish, so how is that a no? Many friends on mine played chess before they played catch. The first game I played was checkers and I'm very good at it.

You mean athletic olympic competitions? This is unrelated to IQ, but many Jews are elite athletes. Michael Phelps is one great example.

 

[AViet]

I will not even talk to you about your first part. Us Jews, and particularly Ashkenazi Jews, are factually the people with the highest IQ on average, more than any other ethnic group anywhere in the world, you are in no position to call us low IQ.

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China definitely had a lot to do with the IAI Lavi.
I have no idea about the details, but the Lavi had an advanced fly by wire system, advanced (for the time) Elta radar, jamming systems, Heads Up Display, mission computer, internal navigation system, integrated the Python 3 (Which China also purchased from Israel in 1983, ), all of those were developed and built in Israel.

Israel has wind tunnels and tested the Lavi with them

The IAI Wind Tunnels Center is a National Center aimed to enhance the development of airborne platforms that comprises three state-of-the-art wind tunnels - the Subsonic, the Trisonic and the Hypersonic tunnels, covering velocity range from 0 to 12 Mach.

The IAI Wind Tunnels Center has over 40 years of experience in performing a variety of Aerodynamics Tests for civil and military programs, including the LAVI aircraft, the Arrow & Barak Missiles, the G-200, G-280 business jets etc. performed by our experts and experienced team that is obliged to the most accurate results.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/wind-tunnels-center

I did not know about your wind tunnel, probably you actually have some design experience. And I never say Israel is a low-IQ country.

With regards to the aircraft program, some days ago, I went through someone's comment in a Vietnamese forum, saying that US F-35 is just a copy of the Soviet Yak 141 program. I am not a specialist and do not know if the claim above has any basis. But it is a belief by the pro-Russia faction in Vietnamese society, which is still very strong.

Anyway, at least the Soviet had a great aerospace industry, and that the US copied / stole something from them is understandable and much more trustworthy than saying China copied from Israel, a country never manufactured any aircraft, other than assembly of imported parts and re-brand.

Not to mention that the modern J-10 (or J-10C) is a 21 century-technology workpiece, while your Lavi was just 1980-technology one