World Ahamadi Muslim leader condemns recent terror attacks in Calgary visit

[gambit]

Sir if you are not educated about the subject being discussed here then I advice you to learn the facts provided here.

And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers. 5-44 quran.

Its a established fact that Prophet Mohammed PUBH is the final prophet and this fact alone is enough to conclude that Ahamadis are not MUSLIMS! Get your facts straight instead of beating behind the bush.

That is absurd.

How do you prove someone a 'prophet' in the first place, let alone if Mohammed is the 'final prophet'? There is no 'fact' here but a selfish hope.

fact: A thing that is indisputably the case.

For the Christian sect Mormonism, Joseph Smith (deceased) is the 'final prophet' and they can declare his status to be a 'fact' as well. In other words, whoever is declared a 'prophet' can be disputed and therefore his/her status can never be a fact. If you dispute what the Mormons said about Joseph Smith, then the rest of the world can dispute your claim about Mohammed.

Gravity is a fact. No one can dispute that. You eat because you are hungry. That is a fact because humans everywhere and anytime have the same physical characteristic. A fact -- a real fact -- is something that can be proven to be true by anyone anywhere anytime independent of each other.

Looks like you need to learn logical thinking before trying to debate theology.

 

[Zabaniyah]

That is absurd.

How do you prove someone a 'prophet' in the first place, let alone if Mohammed is the 'final prophet'? There is no 'fact' here but a selfish hope.

fact: A thing that is indisputably the case.

For the Christian sect Mormonism, Joseph Smith (deceased) is the 'final prophet' and they can declare his status to be a 'fact' as well. In other words, whoever is declared a 'prophet' can be disputed and therefore his/her status can never be a fact. If you dispute what the Mormons said about Joseph Smith, then the rest of the world can dispute your claim about Mohammed.

Gravity is a fact. No one can dispute that. You eat because you are hungry. That is a fact because humans everywhere and anytime have the same physical characteristic. A fact -- a real fact -- is something that can be proven to be true by anyone anywhere anytime independent of each other.

Looks like you need to learn logical thinking before trying to debate theology.

There's no scientific proof of that. The existence of God, or whether or not His prophets were His agents cannot be proven by science.

Yes, in Islam Prophet Muhammad S.A.W is the last prophet. However, other Abrahamic religions reject this; saying that Jesus and Moses completed the job.

The point that Myth_buster_1 was referring to was the issue of Ahmedis. Ahmedis see the matter is discussed differently, and yet claim themselves Muslims.

"There is no god but God, and Muhammad was the last prophet".

This is absolute, and one of the five pillars of Islam.

To put things simply, if one rejects as much as a single word from the Holy Koran, he/she is not Muslim.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

That is absurd.

How do you prove someone a 'prophet' in the first place, let alone if Mohammed is the 'final prophet'? There is no 'fact' here but a selfish hope.

fact: A thing that is indisputably the case.

For the Christian sect Mormonism, Joseph Smith (deceased) is the 'final prophet' and they can declare his status to be a 'fact' as well. In other words, whoever is declared a 'prophet' can be disputed and therefore his/her status can never be a fact. If you dispute what the Mormons said about Joseph Smith, then the rest of the world can dispute your claim about Mohammed.

Gravity is a fact. No one can dispute that. You eat because you are hungry. That is a fact because humans everywhere and anytime have the same physical characteristic. A fact -- a real fact -- is something that can be proven to be true by anyone anywhere anytime independent of each other.

Looks like you need to learn logical thinking before trying to debate theology.

Their was a reason why I used analogy of conditions for US citizenship!
The point here is not to prove Islam as the true religion but to prove Ahmadis WRONG as Muslims. A preacher and a practitioner of polytheistic religion can not be defined as a monotheistic believer just because he/she said so! Just like a person can not become an American by just declaring himself, he has to abide by the rules!