Work on Hyder Ali, Tipu memorial begins

[I M Sikander]

Then we will reply in a language that you cant tolerate.

Do these bak bak in your shitty indian forums.

 

[HttpError]

Then we will reply in a language that you cant tolerate.

Please try it Mr. Little Baniya

 

[navtrek]

a lie.

What you dont really understand is I am from Karnataka and Tippu's summer palace is right next to my house. He is a far bigger hero to us than you. But the only difference BTW me and you is I am not thinking in terms of religion.

He was a great man but he also had the wrong side to him. good and bad.

Here is a more balanced article which will give a more clear picture.
Why we love to hate Tipu Sultan - Livemint

 

[Whazzup]

@waz , @Oscar can anyone clean this thread and tell me which rules we need to follow?

On topic Tipu fought british thats our history but if he oppressed Hindus well then that too is part of history y so selective?

 

[HttpError]

I can go far worse .More than you can imagine .But I respect those mods I tagged in there .So I am restraining .But dont take that granted.

Heritage ??Tell me Do you know any one language in South India ?Can you say at least one word anyone of these language .If you dont know then what heritage mr ?
Tipu was a South Indian .Since when did he become your national hero ?
About religion .After all these cruel rewards you didnt learn a single lesson.Well that is your fate.

Ok I can say many words , Poda, Podi, Chor Kurcho, Wala Kurcho last but not the least, Ai Ai Ai yo

 

[navtrek]

Because indirectly you are trying to insult our religion by Insulting Tipu.

No we are not insulting any religion. We are talking about a ruler called Tipu Sultan and this has nothing to do with Islam.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ofc they are but If we are not involved then one need to think like a Indian on these issues. I'm from North India had no idea what guys like @SrNair used to think on these issues and since his ancestors has faced the wraith of those glorious kings and it will be people like him who will see that memorial as a ugly remainder of attrocities we need to think for them and not for muslims in general after all Muslim or a hindu might forget such incident but locals will have no choice they will be reminded.

I just cant understand what you are trying to say

30% of Maharaj Shivaji soldiers were muslims and the war slogan of Maratha Soldiers was HAR HAR MAHADEV and ALLAH HU AKBAR.

Shivaji Maharaj Statue near International Airport.

 

[SrNair]

Srnair Saudi accepts 500000 syrian as state huest many here in UAE but they are not announcing for media correct your facts moron

That was Saudi .
Are you a Saudi citizen or Arab ?
Neithier your nation nor you did anything for refugees .Right ?
So dont post stupidity in a subject that you doant have an iota of knowledge.

 

[Burhan Wani]

I can go far worse .More than you can imagine .But I respect those mods I tagged in there .So I am restraining .But dont take that granted.

Heritage ??Tell me Do you know any one language in South India ?Can you say at least one word anyone of these language .If you dont know then what heritage mr ?
Tipu was a South Indian .Since when did he become your national hero ?
About religion .After all these cruel rewards you didnt learn a single lesson.Well that is your fate.

Tipu was from Arab Quresh lineage.
Many sources prove they came from Persia.

 

[Prajapati]

"All the rockets in the world today can be traced to those used during the wars in Mysore," says aerospace scientist Professor Roddam Narasimha, DST year-of-science professor, engineering mechanics unit of Jawaharlal Nehru Centre for Advanced Scientific Research, who has been pursuing Tipu"s rockets as "an interesting sideline" for decades. "There is one single line of technology development that links those rockets to what the US, Russia and India are doing today ," he says. "It was Tipu who realized the full potential of rockets as weapons--both in his mind and on the field--and used them to create havoc in the East Indian Company lines."

The Chinese used rockets in warfare from the 13th century to repulse Mongol invaders, Europeans experimented with them in the 15th century and the Mughals shot them on the battlefield, but rockets were rapidly discarded as cannons and other forms of artillery with greater accuracy were developed."Most of these rockets were made of cardboard and other materials and they were not very different from our Deepavali crackers, lots of smoke and noise," says Prof Narasimha.

Tipu"s new, improved rockets caused as much fear and confusion as damage in the British infantry ranks against which the Mysore army was arrayed.In 1780, at the Battle of Pollilur during the Second Anglo Mysore War, Tipu-under the rule of his father Hyder Ali-launched his supercharged weapons at the East India Company army led by William Baillie. The barrage of rockets set fire to the Company"s ammunition dumps and the British suffered one of their worst ever defeats in India. At its height, Tipu"s rocket corps had more than 5,000 men.

"Tipu had a fairly advanced technological set up, not the same as western science but very advanced for its time," says Dr Narendar Pani, professor, School of Social Science, National Institute of Advanced Studies. "The metal tubes and provision of direction drew the line between fireworks and rocketry." The superior quality iron available in Mysore was an added advantage and Tipu set up Taramandalpets (which translate as star-cluster bazaars) to do his research. "Tipu had four, what we would now call, tech parks--Srirangapatna, Bangalore, Chitradurga and Bidanur (present-day Nagara in central Karnataka) for rocket research," says Prof Narasimha.

Tipu"s manufacturers were largely craftsmen who were pushed to do the best they could and improve their casting and firing through experimentation. His rocketmen were taught to make basic calculations for launch-they knew how to vary elevation depending on the size and weight of the rocket and the distance of the object to be struck. "Tipu was an interesting character. He promoted art and craft, including those that would help him in warfare," says Prof Narasimha.

Tipu"s rocketeers launched about a dozen missiles at a time using wheeled carts with three or more rocket ramps.One of these barrages ended up scaring Arthur Wellesley silly in 1799--long before Wellesley became the hero of Waterloo and the Duke of Wellington--during the fourth and final Anglo-Mysore wars. Wellesley was sent out to reconnoiter a grove in Sultanpet in Srirangapatna and found himself under attack."He"d never encountered rocket fire before and he ran away . He should have been court martialed but he got away because his brother was the Governor General in Calcutta at the time," says Narasimha. "Wellesleys" biographer says the event changed him, he determined never to show fear again. He came to be known as the man who could not be rattled by anything. So you see, Mysore influenced Waterloo and the Iron Duke was forged in Sultanpet," he says.

Only two specimens remain of the Mysore rocket, both in the Royal Artillery Museum, Woolwich, and the details left are what the British recorded during their tests. "There was no proper documentation of our capability ," says Dr W Selvamurthy, former chief controller of R&D at DRDO, and currently president of Amity Science Technology and Innovation Foundation. "That"s one reason why we fell behind. The other is that this was the time of the Industrial Revolution, and Europe made great strides. We, under British rule, were left behind."

Which is why Ignorances and Propaganda cannot substitute Facts

Tipu Sultan is credited with the "discover/invention" of rockets because it was from him that the BRITISH learn to used Rockets in war. The guy who learnt it was General Charles Cornwallis who later on used it during the American war of Independence.

Now since the British WROTE the History, Tipu got the Credit. See how that works ?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Nope.
Insult to the people of Kerala.
Perhaps he was a good leader for Mysore people.
But he was religious bigot only for us Keralites.

It's pointless to look for 'clean' characters before 1947. The idea of india as you know it was very vague then. That way some of our other leaders - Bal Gangadhar Tilak and Lajpat Rai leaned to the hindu right wing side and some even led 'Shuddhi' a key issue that led to partition. Technically for a long time Jinnah was a leader of Hindu Muslim unity until he took the fateful decision to lead separation. That's why you shouldn't nitpick on these things. The common enemy at the time was British and anyone that opposed them should be revered. You know for a fact that during the first war of independence everyone from Jhansi Rani to Tope were actually fighting for royal previlages right? You should just forget these things and look at their valour and spunk in opposing the British than make it about their personal policies.

 

[Maarkhoor]

LAMO WHAT

since when you pakistanis were central asian Chugtai and timurids ?

Its like a somali christian claiming that his ancestors ruled India as british indian empire.

THESE ARE CENTRAL ASIAN TIMURIDS
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even jahangir who had half rajput hindu blood was nowhere identical to you
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These are central asian
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this is pakistani
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Imagine how disgusting this sound when these pakistani calimed "we ruled you for 1000 years"

Tuney abhi Pakistani delhey nahien kabhi ana dikhaoon gha kushboo lagha k

 

[Prajapati]

Tipu was from Arab Quresh lineage.
Many sources prove they came from Persia.

That is funny since his Grandfather, Fath Muhammad was from Kolar in Karnataka

 

[Hindustani78]

LOL.... Is that a Threat ?

That I must bow to "muslim sentiment" and recognize Bigots like Tipu and Aurangzeb as "Heroes" or India will NOT be a united nation under one flag ?

Sorry, no can do. India WILL Continue to be a Single United Nation under one Flag and the TRUTH shall be set free and Bigotry and Bigots will be exposed for who they are.

Now to the only relevant fact you stated, introductions of Rockets. You are wrong as usual.

Tipu's GRANDFATHER, Hyder Ali's father, was the Naik or chief constable at Budikote where he commanded 600 men, 500 horses and 50 Rocketmen for the Nawab of Arcot

His name as Fath Muhammad. But he did not invent the Rockets either.

Rockets were first used by the Marathas (let by Tara Bai) against Aurangzeb when he invaded south India. It is recorded that during the Siege of Wagingera in 1704, Aurangazeb's commander Rao Dalpat Bundela elephant was killed when it was hit by a Rocket fired by the marathas.

Zulfiqar Khan Nusrat Jung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

THIS was the rocket which was passed on to the Nawat of Arcot and from him to Fath Muhammad, son Hyder Ali and his son Tipu Sultan.

Tipu Sultan added sword and blade to the Rocket. That was his people's contribution.

So NOW tell me, WHO introduced Rockets in India ? or used them in Warfare First ?

All this doesnt change the real fact that rocket technology was introduced in India .

 

[Bornubus]

Tuney abhi Pakistani delhey nahien kabhi ana dikhaoon gha kushboo lagha k

Abey ab apney bandi bhi disown kar diyey tune ... farji mughal.