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Wonderful interview in Azerbaijan about Afrin Operation

Neptune said:
If that was the case during the War of Independence and if there ever was a diplomatic, military possibility of keeping the Soviets out of Azerbaijan in 1920, Atatürk would go to as far as Baku, including the brother state on Misak-ı Milli borders. But unfortunately in history there are no IFs and BUTs but just the outcome.
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Imagine a land linked Turkey and Azerbaijan from the Agean to the Caspian sea.
 
blackeyes90 said:
Could you please explain ? Do you have review on the subject that would be nice. I wanna know moer about Azerbaijan. Thanks in advance.
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Everything was perfect until 2003 when Heydar Aliyev died, who was the father of current President. Right after him , people thought its better to keep his son in power, as Azerbaijan was the first country who was against USSR and was the first one made protest with millions of people going out to streets.
Russia decided to push it down with force and People went out to streets and everybody was together...
20 january 1990(you can google video about it). Russian army tanks came in to Baku. They started to kill anybody around. People only had molotov cocktails, busses and trucks.. As nobody had weapon in USSR..
After that, people became even more angry and simply everbody went out to take away president posted by Russia Ayaz Mutallimov and bring in Ebulfez Elchibey, who was extremely Turkish oriented. As soon as he came in, Russia started the Nagorno Karabagh war to control Azerbaijan. Elchibey made very good relationship with Turgut Ozal inTurkey and he also became a bridge between Turkey and Other Turkish nations in middle Asia like Kazakhistan to make big Turkish country. Everybody was ready to be part of it unless Turgut Ozal was poisoned and Elchibey was left alone. He has Interviews in youtube that he asked Suleyman Demirel 100 million dollar just to control the economy as the contry just was created and Turkey refused (He also asked 2 helicopters to move civilians out of war place where later Armenians make massajre and Suleyman Demirel refused) because of that, inflation started, as Russia and Iran stopped to send anything as He was extremely againt Iran and said that he dream to raise Turkish flag in Tabriz, South Azerbaijan...
So the infilation went up to 4000% and economy, life became zero. Thats why people wanted Heydar Aliyev(including Elchibey who personally invited HEydar ALiyev to Baku) who was corrupted but also strong personality as he was the only muslim KKB General in USSR(lets say MIT or CIA). RUssia also was ok with him as they already knowed him..
After that he made balanced politics and he was nice to everybody, call it Iran, Turkey, Russia and EUrope...

But, After he died, Azerbaijan started to receive billions of dollars in 2005 and his son studied only foreign policy and never really controlled anything...
His wife became a strong person and started actually to control the country... He arrested even presidents uncle(home arrest) and presidents sister had to move to London forever... The president became like a cloun as he couldnt even speak proper Azerbaijani..People still make fun as how he spell words as Russian guys learned different language. his family still only speak in Russian and appoint only Russian speaking people...
They started to teach Russian as base langauge in Azerbaijan, only country after USSR that still have it. Those young people get a lot of influence frm Russia and Russian become their main language..

the real story started after that, as he had basically zero control, everybody started to do whatever they want...
They also have one mentality to control people. I will tell you with the joke which Heydar ALiyev told his Son before die.
"He say his son, go choose to ships that almost the same.
the son brings,
he says, now you take one and i take one. Lets see who will have the best sheep..
The son(Ilham ALiyev), take the best shepherd to take care of the sheep, feed it properly and so on..
after several month, Heydar says his son to bring the sheep and compare them...
His sons sheep come in and the sheep is so strong, ready to fight, doesnt really listen to his son what to do.
But, then Heydar asks to bring his sheep which is almost dying from lack of food, and ready to do anything for a piece of food. almost a skeleton..
He goes to him that, people are the same. WHen you feed they, they start to demand more.
This is typical Sovet era mentality... just read the book 1984, the situation in Azerbaijan is the same same as in that book. was copied every piece of it..

According to Presidents and other ministers mind, any person in Azerbaijan shouldnt live good life, if so, they will think about government change and that they started to arrest or make a lot of issues for anybody want to do business or already have one..

the situation came to a level that police basically come to your restaurant and say that i found narcotics here, even though you are islamic or basically there is no way you do it... They either arrest you or ask thousands of dollars as some time end up with people selling their houses...

I believe Azerbaijan will be the same like Syria once its ignited...
you cannot imagine how every single person, call it government, business,student, anybody... just ready to kill high possitioned ministers and the wife side of president...

just to let you know one thing, they builted 100 million dollar hospital and later mentioned that it was purchased for 1 million from a company based abroad and later was found that it was presidents daughters company..

The reason is Azerbaijan still there is Russia, Iran and Turkey are so busy i Syria. After Syria, next place will be Azerbaijan. But, changing anybody wouldnt work to any of them as they will push with all their power to keep their person in Azerbaijan..
 
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Kamil_baku said:
He has Interviews in youtube that he asked Suleyman Demirel 100 million dollar just to control the economy as the contry just was created and Turkey refused (He also asked 2 helicopters to move civilians out of war place where later Armenians make massajre and Suleyman Demirel refused) because of that, inflation started, as Russia and Iran stopped to send anything as He was extremely againt Iran and said that he dream to raise Turkish flag in Tabriz, South Azerbaijan...
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Oh my god ! I didnt knew about this. What does azerbaijani people think of this decision of Turkeys? I am sure they feel betrayed ? The got every right to be ! Als ocan you post that video link to ? Thanks in advance.
 
Those land are Azerbaijani lands anyway, called Zengezur mahali..
Armenian has no chance against Azerbaijan, if Russians are not there..
 
Kamil_baku said:
Everything was perfect until 2003 when Heydar Aliyev died, who was the father of current President. Right after him , people thought its better to keep his son in power, as Azerbaijan was the first country who was against USSR and was the first one made protest with millions of people going out to streets.
Russia decided to push it down with force and People went out to streets and everybody was together...
20 january 1990(you can google video about it). Russian army tanks came in to Baku. They started to kill anybody around. People only had molotov cocktails, busses and trucks.. As nobody had weapon in USSR..
After that, people became even more angry and simply everbody went out to take away president posted by Russia Ayaz Mutallimov and bring in Ebulfez Elchibey, who was extremely Turkish oriented. As soon as he came in, Russia started the Nagorno Karabagh war to control Azerbaijan. Elchibey made very good relationship with Turgut Ozal inTurkey and he also became a bridge between Turkey and Other Turkish nations in middle Asia like Kazakhistan to make big Turkish country. Everybody was ready to be part of it unless Turgut Ozal was poisoned and Elchibey was left alone. He has Interviews in youtube that he asked Suleyman Demirel 100 million dollar just to control the economy as the contry just was created and Turkey refused (He also asked 2 helicopters to move civilians out of war place where later Armenians make massajre and Suleyman Demirel refused) because of that, inflation started, as Russia and Iran stopped to send anything as He was extremely againt Iran and said that he dream to raise Turkish flag in Tabriz, South Azerbaijan...
So the infilation went up to 4000% and economy, life became zero. Thats why people wanted Heydar Aliyev(including Elchibey who personally invited HEydar ALiyev to Baku) who was corrupted but also strong personality as he was the only muslim KKB General in USSR(lets say MIT or CIA). RUssia also was ok with him as they already knowed him..
After that he made balanced politics and he was nice to everybody, call it Iran, Turkey, Russia and EUrope...

But, After he died, Azerbaijan started to receive billions of dollars in 2005 and his son studied only foreign policy and never really controlled anything...
His wife became a strong person and started actually to control the country... He arrested even presidents uncle(home arrest) and presidents sister had to move to London forever... The president became like a cloun as he couldnt even speak proper Azerbaijani..People still make fun as how he spell words as Russian guys learned different language. his family still only speak in Russian and appoint only Russian speaking people...
They started to teach Russian as base langauge in Azerbaijan, only country after USSR that still have it. Those young people get a lot of influence frm Russia and Russian become their main language..

the real story started after that, as he had basically zero control, everybody started to do whatever they want...
They also have one mentality to control people. I will tell you with the joke which Heydar ALiyev told his Son before die.
"He say his son, go choose to ships that almost the same.
the son brings,
he says, now you take one and i take one. Lets see who will have the best sheep..
The son(Ilham ALiyev), take the best shepherd to take care of the sheep, feed it properly and so on..
after several month, Heydar says his son to bring the sheep and compare them...
His sons sheep come in and the sheep is so strong, ready to fight, doesnt really listen to his son what to do.
But, then Heydar asks to bring his sheep which is almost dying from lack of food, and ready to do anything for a piece of food. almost a skeleton..
He goes to him that, people are the same. WHen you feed they, they start to demand more.
This is typical Sovet era mentality... just read the book 1984, the situation in Azerbaijan is the same same as in that book. was copied every piece of it..

According to Presidents and other ministers mind, any person in Azerbaijan shouldnt live good life, if so, they will think about government change and that they started to arrest or make a lot of issues for anybody want to do business or already have one..

the situation came to a level that police basically come to your restaurant and say that i found narcotics here, even though you are islamic or basically there is no way you do it... They either arrest you or ask thousands of dollars as some time end up with people selling their houses...

I believe Azerbaijan will be the same like Syria once its ignited...
you cannot imagine how every single person, call it government, business,student, anybody... just ready to kill high possitioned ministers and the wife side of president...

just to let you know one thing, they builted 100 million dollar hospital and later mentioned that it was purchased for 1 million from a company based abroad and later was found that it was presidents daughters company..

The reason is Azerbaijan still there is Russia, Iran and Turkey are so busy i Syria. After Syria, next place will be Azerbaijan. But, changing anybody wouldnt work to any of them as they will push with all their power to keep their person in Azerbaijan..
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The artificial map in caucassia was created in favour of immigrated armenians with the well-known assimilation and relocation policy of Russians in Turk dominant-majority lands like today's geography called 'Armenia''.

With this policy backed by mullahs, the link between Turkey to Turkestan and Nahçıvan to Azerbaijan and South Azerbaijan is interimly changed.

In the last conflict a reason among some explains why this link is not welcome with help of a figure in Turkey, however, among the Turks in Azerbaijan, South Azerbaijan and Turkey the story is totally different, otherwise there would not be such pictures:

Karabağ war:
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R%C3%BCzgar_Birliyi_1.jpeg


Turkish Stars at Bakü in 24 August 2001:


A piece could be tricky for exited minds with poor knowledge unless the whole picture along with hictorical facts on the ground is seen.
 
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