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Within three years, Pakistan will be able to defeat India on its own

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Economy growth as such may never come until you wage war but that is unnecessary as of what Pakistan has of economy is enough for them to evolve and they are already capable and evovled. You can mark my words Pakistan will defeat India in the future and occupy it whole. It is also not wise to reveal any domestic productions keep it for surprise at another date. What has india developed? Nothing? They don't have the stomach for such massive war but Pakistan does and they will be on the defensive not the other way around. You should change your flag. Pakistan will always have the predator mindset and India prey this will never change
Oh my god here we go again what we develop with total indigenous product 100% without any help i think few bombs and small arms we develop 100% INDIGENOUSLY don't say we develop JFT 100%at home do you know what is the meaning of JF

And india is almost on a same page but have slightly better they were developing and manufacturing SSBN/ AIRCRAFT CARRIER
DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DEVELOP/ MANUFACTURE EVEN A CONVENTIONAL SUBMARINES WITH FOREIGN HELP I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO MANUFACTURE SUBS AT HOME CURRENTLY
 
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it's entertaining.opening post.
what China can't today with a 14 trillion GDP and j20 and drones etc
pakistan is going to do in 3 years time..

hilarious
but entertaining
I'm.sure he can't be older than 10.years
China has the ability to defeat India independently.
 
China is willing to provide J16 if Pakistan needs it.After the Taiwan issue is resolved, China may even give Pakistan some advanced fighter jets for free.
China is not a warlike country.China's military development is primarily aimed at reunifying Taiwan.
NO J16 is not allowed to export by Russia to any third country because its design is Russian INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (based on
Su-30MKK)
And this world no items is free
You might sell us fc-31 but when its development will complete
 
NO J16 is not allowed to export by Russia to any third country because its design is Russian INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (based on
Su-30MKK)
And this world no items is free
You might sell us fc-31 but when its development will complete

FC 31 will be available for Pakistan and Pakistan will go for it that I am sure....
 
China is willing to provide J16 if Pakistan needs it.After the Taiwan issue is resolved, China may even give Pakistan some advanced fighter jets for free.
China is not a warlike country.China's military development is primarily aimed at reunifying Taiwan.
Not possible brother j16 design is based upon your su-30mkk Russian will not allow China to sell their design to any third country because its their intellectual property
 
Please don't mention tanks as strength of an army, it's most over rated strengt. Recent war showed tanks are bad investment
In recent years, Pakistan has imported a large number of advanced weapons and equipment from China at a very low price. With the help of these advanced equipments, Pakistan will be able to fight India independently within three years.
The air force
Pakistan will be imported from China 100 JF - 17 block Ⅲ. The aircraft is equipped with an active phased array radar with a detection range of up to 170 kilometers. And, JF - 17 block Ⅲ can also launch PL - 15 missile which has a range of more than 200 kilometers. The PL-15 air-to-air missile is China's most advanced air-to-air missile and is currently equipped with the J20 and J16. The PL-15 was also exported for the first time.

India's fighters are dominated by Russian-made aircraft, along with some old F-16s and 36 Rafale. Russian jets have a poor avionics system. Rafale is the only Indian fighter aircraft currently equipped with an ACTIVE phased array radar.
The air-to-air missile that the Indian fighter aircraft is equipped with has the longest range of the Modified Russian R-77, which has a range of 150 kilometers. It's still not as good as PL-15. This gives Pakistan's air force the ability to fire out of range of Indian warplanes.
Also, Pakistan has imported four ZDK-03 early Warning aircraft from China, which can detect Indian warplanes from 500 km away.
The ZDK-03, in conjunction with the JF-17, allows the PaF to detect and fire first.

Although the JF-17 is a light fighter with less payload, range, power, and flexibility than the Su 30, the PL-15's longer-range makes it a sitting target.

Pakistan also was introduced into China from 48 Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV. Look at the recent Nagorno-Karabakh war. Tanks, armored vehicles are useless against drones.

The army
Pakistan has imported 300 VT4 tanks from China. The arrival of the tanks will significantly increase the strength of the Pakistani army.

The navy
Pakistan has imported 4 054APS and 8 S20 from China. The fleet will double Pakistan's naval strength. The most advanced vessels in the Indian Navy are the kilo-class submarine. The Kilo-class submarine is more than 30 years old, and many systems lag behind the S20. The S20's comprehensive performance far exceeds the Kilo-class submarine.

If India wants to get more advanced equipment, it will have to pay several times or even dozens of times the price. An aircraft Wing Loong Ⅱ UAV is only $2 million, while India buys from the United States MQ - 9 Reaper UAV, units more than 100 million dollars. A JF - 17 block Ⅲ just $40 million, while a Rafale unit price $220 million.
 
China has the ability to defeat India independently.


sticking to topic In 3 years time
what weapons will defeat India allow you to totally defeat India
and what do you mean by defeat
to you mean minor border excursion
retake Kashmir
invade India to new Delhi or even Mumbai
do you mean nuke our cities
please,explain defeat

remember China has 100000 men on ladakh border and they have not fired a shot and will most likely withdraw in the himlayers,because,they could not contemplate or risk a full.war with India

so why can you
how you going sustain a war with 14 billion in forex 100.billion debt against a giant country 4 times your geography 50 times your forex and 10.times your gdp
they have usa Russia France and Israel.ready to pour in spares and arms and the forex to buy in minutes .

how 'long can you sustain a war against India before going bankrupt
 
Pakistan has no intentions of attacking any one. Pakistan is capable to defending its border and India knows that.
 
sticking to topic In 3 years time
what weapons will defeat India allow you to totally defeat India
and what do you mean by defeat
to you mean minor border excursion
retake Kashmir
invade India to new Delhi or even Mumbai
do you mean nuke our cities
please,explain defeat

remember China has 100000 men on ladakh border and they have not fired a shot and will most likely withdraw in the himlayers,because,they could not contemplate or risk a full.war with India

so why can you
how you going sustain a war with 14 billion in forex 100.billion debt against a giant country 4 times your geography 50 times your forex and 10.times your gdp
they have usa Russia France and Israel.ready to pour in spares and arms and the forex to buy in minutes .

how 'long can you sustain a war against India before going bankrupt
China can beat India in just two weeks.Indian air force, missile is very bad.And the Indian capital is only 300 kilometers from the border.China's stealth aircraft can fly over New Delhi and kill Modi at any time.
 
China can beat India in just two weeks.Indian air force, missile is very bad.And the Indian capital is only 300 kilometers from the border.China's stealth aircraft can fly over New Delhi and kill Modi at any time.

App kitne years ke ho, bhai jaan.... just asking for my knowledge. Thanks
 
Oh my god here we go again what we develop with total indigenous product 100% without any help i think few bombs and small arms we develop 100% INDIGENOUSLY don't say we develop JFT 100%at home do you know what is the meaning of JF

And india is almost on a same page but have slightly better they were developing and manufacturing SSBN/ AIRCRAFT CARRIER
DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DEVELOP/ MANUFACTURE EVEN A CONVENTIONAL SUBMARINES WITH FOREIGN HELP I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO MANUFACTURE SUBS AT HOME CURRENTLY

You seem rustled but India itself admits that it's airforce and military is not doing well. You are just repeating the same things again and again. First you said Upgraded mirages and 29-MIG were better then F16s which is a 1st grader mistake then proceeded making other hyperbolic claims such as the notoriously trash that is s-300 and now you seem to come back to reality after I fact checked you hard. India has no advantages and pretty much on the same page and recently admitted that their entire airforce fleet needs to be changed.

Coming from the higher ups in India this is a reality on the ground can't be denied. You have to realize this
 
They are evolving fc-31 to further its improve form named J-35 for PLAAN and i am sure we are looking j35 for a replacement of our f16
China can beat India in just two weeks.Indian air force, missile is very bad.And the Indian capital is only 300 kilometers from the border.China's stealth aircraft can fly over New Delhi and kill Modi at any time.
China has no interest in occupying all of India in the event of an all-out war.All China needs to do is to gain air superiority and then paralyze India with missiles by destroying some of its key targets.Finally, China will provide money and arms to some separatist groups in India.Let indians fight Indians.Keep India in chaos to compete with China for hegemony.
 
Is this a "flame bait" thread?
There is an old game on forums and earlier used in the Cold War media wars:
-Pretend to be a hyper-nationalist and make an unfounded claim which shows "your side" as unrealistic illogical and delusional.
In the Cold War calculated media leaks by rival Western and Eastern bloc media would often indulge in this type of activity.
Some of the leaks dubbed "LOLs"
- The USA has established a base on the moon and has developed a giant death ray machine that can target any nation on earth and fry it from there.
( "leaked" by a Soviet media establishment, when in fact the USA had terminated its manned flights to the moon after the Apollo 17 mission in 1972. )

- The Soviet Union recovered an alien spacecraft that provided it with technology that enabled it close the technology gap with the west.
( "Leaked" by a western media source, when in fact the Soviet Union lagged behind the West in microchips and computer technology).
Leaks such as these caused a tremendous distraction to the adversaries. The canard would be spread by the adversaries forcing one side ( the target) to defend an untrue position with the other side would be ridiculing the ludicrous statement.
This thread is similarly making an atrocious claim evoking a vigorous response to debunk it.

That's the idea !
 
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