If Pakistan was not declared a terr****t state post OBL-raid, it will never be. Pakistan is a respected member in the international community; it has one of the UN largest peacekeeping forces in the world, it's a temporary UNSC member, it's on the verge of an SCO membership, amongst other things.
Withhold all aid to Pakistan until Afridi is freed: US lawmakers
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If Pakistan was not declared a terr****t state post OBL-raid, it will never be. Pakistan is a respected member in the international community; it has one of the UN largest peacekeeping forces in the world, it's a temporary UNSC member, it's on the verge of an SCO membership, amongst other things.
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If and Buts do not work in the real world. Any number of possibilities can happen with an If. If the next dirty-bomb going off in the US is traced back to Pakistan, If Zawahiri is dragged out of Pakistan alive sovereignty be damned, If Pakistan escalates hostilities with Afghanistan and so on, Pakistan will be an International pariah and on the highway to the next North Korea.
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Withhold the aid, go ahead - politicians will be furious.
Average man in Pakistan could care less. Current politicians don't give a sh*t about them anyways - AID hardly reaches the public.
Fact is Pakistan is never going to free Afridi.
Even if he is freed, he'll be hunted down and killed anyways.
Take your pick.
Free him and let him die.
Or let him stay in Jail, alive.
Average man in Pakistan could care less. Current politicians don't give a sh*t about them anyways - AID hardly reaches the public.
Fact is Pakistan is never going to free Afridi.
Even if he is freed, he'll be hunted down and killed anyways.
Take your pick.
Free him and let him die.
Or let him stay in Jail, alive.
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Good idea, all aid to Pakistan should be withheld and in return we get to kick out all americans out of our country and also demolish the super embassy they are constructing in Islamabad
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how many times you hold same damnt aid uncle snake ?
again and again BLA BLA aid and then aid which stopped since 2 years 
again and again BLA BLA aid and then aid which stopped since 2 years Moazam Khan
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WASHINGTON: US Senator Rand Paul has introduced legislation in the Senate which seeks to eliminate aid to Pakistan until the conviction of Dr. Shakil Afridi is overturned and he is released.
Paul has submitted another bill which seeks to grant Afridi US citizenship for his efforts in leading the United States to Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad.
Last week, Paul wrote a letter to US President Barack Obama, urging a delay in the release of foreign military financing to the government of Pakistan, and to hold all aid until Afridi, the informant who assisted intelligence services in identifying the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, is released.
Earlier US State Department Spokesman Mark Toner said that the United States was still waiting for clarification from Pakistan regarding Dr. Afridis case. Last week it was revealed that Dr. Afridi was sentenced for his ties with a banned organization and not for helping the CIA in the hunt for Osama bin Laden.
Paul has submitted another bill which seeks to grant Afridi US citizenship for his efforts in leading the United States to Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad.
Last week, Paul wrote a letter to US President Barack Obama, urging a delay in the release of foreign military financing to the government of Pakistan, and to hold all aid until Afridi, the informant who assisted intelligence services in identifying the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, is released.
Earlier US State Department Spokesman Mark Toner said that the United States was still waiting for clarification from Pakistan regarding Dr. Afridis case. Last week it was revealed that Dr. Afridi was sentenced for his ties with a banned organization and not for helping the CIA in the hunt for Osama bin Laden.
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Looks like Pakistani govt, unlike members here, is a little petrified in admitting that they jailed the good doctor for helping catch Osama Bin Laden 
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its getting interesting now
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The peculiar thing is the attitude of Raun paul which has been changed after the Doc issue. He was the staunch acolyte of Pakistan in drone attacks.
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An interesting point of view in a letter published in the 'Dawn' of today.
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Dr Afridi and ‘Tuesday Garden’From the Newspaper | 8 hours ago 0 TWO weeks ago when a political agent’s ‘honour killing’ jirga decided to incarcerate a citizen of Pakistan for 33 years for helping the CIA/US axis nail the world’s most wanted terrorist a clear message was broadcast.
Osama bin Laden, and by extension, all his ilk skulking around in our national killing fields were our dearest friends and should never have been identified and caught from the sanctuary our handlers had created.
Our press convulsed in for and against, and many papers devoted nearly half a page to the high treason decree. The news of a man sentenced to jail for 33 years for having actually done the job he was employed to do by his employers created much consternation in our republic where no one consequential — judiciary, military, political or (ir)religious — has ever been held accountable for any act of deliberate commission or omission even when those acts have shredded the constitutional base of this nation’s foundations. More uniquely, this was a trial constituted by one of the many quasi ‘kangaroo courts’ that dot our landscape and in the absence of suitable enforceable legislative governance routinely give us such good repute.
Now, in what can only be described as the mother of all somersaults we are informed that the jirga did not accuse and convict Afridi of helping eliminate our late friend/enemy Bin Laden but for working, treating and funding our present enemy, Mangal Bagh (Tuesday Garden) and his breed, presumably also of same ‘brotherly country’ funded murderous zealots who, we have only just realised, apparently are doing much damage to our beloved motherland.
And to put the nails correctly in the coffin, the jirga has dated Dr Afridi’s crimes as starting from 2002 when they first found he was not kosher. It would seem our intelligence services required a further nine years and Bin Laden’s dramatic death to figure out just how much of a bad terrorist asset Afridi was. In fact, Bin Laden must be turning in his watery grave at the gross ignominy of not even being mentioned in the current charge sheet as being ‘out of jurisdiction’. Now let the Americans chew on that piece of hide. Soon they will not only return our $33 million worth of ‘blood money’ but will fall over themselves to give us more in gratitude.
Unless Mangal is also an, as yet indispensable, American agent like Bin Laden certainly once was. In which case the opportune high-profile visits of the Chinese and Russians to jump into the vacuum will be most certainly needed to bring them to their senses.
On behalf of this pitiful nation, I wonder if Dr Afridi can claim immunity under the NRO or at least merit a few more lines from Gibran?
DR MERVYN HOSEIN
Karachi
Dr Afridi and
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Without going into the rights and wrong of the US actions; let us for moment dispassionately analyse what Dr Afridi is really guilty of?
He had links with terrorist for a while. But that should come as no surprize. How are the terrorists being supported and helped in their nefarious activities? I can say with certainty that many of the sectarian parties who form Defence of Pakistan Council are involved in providing succour to the terrorists. PML-N Law Minister Rana Sana Ullah is openly hobnobbing with SSP leaders. Does not that mean he has contacts with sectarian terrorists?
Lal Masjid mullah fought PA Commandos with guns, is this not high treason? But our very biased CJ Mr Chaudhry has released him and the mullah is running around free showing two fingers to the State of Pakistan.
In Layari, criminal groups fought with Police and Rangers with guns and rockets and we have many in the society who say that Police were wrong!
What Dr Afraid is guilty of is helping the US identify OBL; a wanted criminal for a long time.
What Dr Afridi did was a bad thing and clearly he did it for money. But does it call for 33 years punishment when compared to the crimes against the State of Pakistan by other terrorists and sectarion parties?
And we say that West has double standards?
Let us face it; Dr Afridi has been made a scape goat because he has made Pakistan Army and Security Agencies look bad and his actions resulted in great embarrassment to the GOP and especially so because US was the other party.
I am not against punishing the guy, but for heaven’s sake, let us come out and say it why?
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Dr Afridi and ‘Tuesday Garden’From the Newspaper | 8 hours ago 0 TWO weeks ago when a political agent’s ‘honour killing’ jirga decided to incarcerate a citizen of Pakistan for 33 years for helping the CIA/US axis nail the world’s most wanted terrorist a clear message was broadcast.
Osama bin Laden, and by extension, all his ilk skulking around in our national killing fields were our dearest friends and should never have been identified and caught from the sanctuary our handlers had created.
Our press convulsed in for and against, and many papers devoted nearly half a page to the high treason decree. The news of a man sentenced to jail for 33 years for having actually done the job he was employed to do by his employers created much consternation in our republic where no one consequential — judiciary, military, political or (ir)religious — has ever been held accountable for any act of deliberate commission or omission even when those acts have shredded the constitutional base of this nation’s foundations. More uniquely, this was a trial constituted by one of the many quasi ‘kangaroo courts’ that dot our landscape and in the absence of suitable enforceable legislative governance routinely give us such good repute.
Now, in what can only be described as the mother of all somersaults we are informed that the jirga did not accuse and convict Afridi of helping eliminate our late friend/enemy Bin Laden but for working, treating and funding our present enemy, Mangal Bagh (Tuesday Garden) and his breed, presumably also of same ‘brotherly country’ funded murderous zealots who, we have only just realised, apparently are doing much damage to our beloved motherland.
And to put the nails correctly in the coffin, the jirga has dated Dr Afridi’s crimes as starting from 2002 when they first found he was not kosher. It would seem our intelligence services required a further nine years and Bin Laden’s dramatic death to figure out just how much of a bad terrorist asset Afridi was. In fact, Bin Laden must be turning in his watery grave at the gross ignominy of not even being mentioned in the current charge sheet as being ‘out of jurisdiction’. Now let the Americans chew on that piece of hide. Soon they will not only return our $33 million worth of ‘blood money’ but will fall over themselves to give us more in gratitude.
Unless Mangal is also an, as yet indispensable, American agent like Bin Laden certainly once was. In which case the opportune high-profile visits of the Chinese and Russians to jump into the vacuum will be most certainly needed to bring them to their senses.
On behalf of this pitiful nation, I wonder if Dr Afridi can claim immunity under the NRO or at least merit a few more lines from Gibran?
DR MERVYN HOSEIN
Karachi
Dr Afridi and
Unquote
Without going into the rights and wrong of the US actions; let us for moment dispassionately analyse what Dr Afridi is really guilty of?
He had links with terrorist for a while. But that should come as no surprize. How are the terrorists being supported and helped in their nefarious activities? I can say with certainty that many of the sectarian parties who form Defence of Pakistan Council are involved in providing succour to the terrorists. PML-N Law Minister Rana Sana Ullah is openly hobnobbing with SSP leaders. Does not that mean he has contacts with sectarian terrorists?
Lal Masjid mullah fought PA Commandos with guns, is this not high treason? But our very biased CJ Mr Chaudhry has released him and the mullah is running around free showing two fingers to the State of Pakistan.
In Layari, criminal groups fought with Police and Rangers with guns and rockets and we have many in the society who say that Police were wrong!
What Dr Afraid is guilty of is helping the US identify OBL; a wanted criminal for a long time.
What Dr Afridi did was a bad thing and clearly he did it for money. But does it call for 33 years punishment when compared to the crimes against the State of Pakistan by other terrorists and sectarion parties?
And we say that West has double standards?
Let us face it; Dr Afridi has been made a scape goat because he has made Pakistan Army and Security Agencies look bad and his actions resulted in great embarrassment to the GOP and especially so because US was the other party.
I am not against punishing the guy, but for heaven’s sake, let us come out and say it why?
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If I got a penny every time US threatened to withhold aid in the last 5 years, I would be the world's richest man right now.how many times you hold same damnt aid uncle snake ?
Keep the embassy and anything to do with the U.S inside Pakistan - but prevent anything from reaching them such as aid & intelligence information. Just keep them lying towards our feet. After all they're now claiming to lose patience.
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So all aid goes to politician bank account directly and none is added to your economy. Amazing.
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Pakistan will pay the US few Billion Dollars if they would take a hike and leave our neighborhood.
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