Will regard Pakistan as brother when in power, seek ties on mutual respect: Afghan Taliba

[Indus Pakistan]

Lets just hope loverboys keep their love of the Russians low and those "ummah" chummah dudes dont croak and piss about the PRC and Xinjiang we are almost there just need Sabr(Patient) to rout Yankee and NA goons out

To be honest even relationships with a Taliban Afghanistan will not be easy. For instance the Durand Line issue will persist but it will be far more easier to deal with a Kabul that does not hate Pakistan and whose tail is being wagged by India. If France and Germany can resolve their issues so can Af-Pak. If this was done it would be win win for this region. The big prize would be seeing a integrated CPEC of Af-Pak, Central Asia and Iran spreading out to Turkey connected with China. Integrating this region with Chinese economic clout driving it would bring vast gas, oil, labour, markets of West Asia together. Something like this -

A integrated economic community in Western Asia - a matured CPEC

The rough translation is apologizing to mai baap for having given shelter to OBL, we will never make this mistake again, and our barey bhai in Pakistan will keep us in line since we will kowtow to them once again. And barey bhai wants to wrap this up quickly in order to save the economy on hold.

The rough translation here is "we owed IOU's to these guys from 1980s when we, yes we all fought to destroy your 'evil mai' and unlike you guys we never forget a friend but now that is in the past we can move forward.

 

[Yankee-stani]

What is done is done. Now, Pakistan must deal with the situation as it exists now. India will be trying its utmost to shatter the impression that Pakistan can control the Taliban enough to deliver on these reassurances that are important to USA.

I know but those past Mistakes of the 1990s should be put in major focus by the geo-strategic thinkers at GHQ Islamabad to prevent a s...tshow from taking place again India can croak about whatever "talks" they have with the Taliban just like they can croak about "vedic supapowa" status Iranians they will try to use but Iran is an independent nation and not beholden to India wants and needs.

To be honest even relationships with a Taliban Afghanistan will not be easy. For instance the Durand Line issue will persist but it will be far more easier to deal with a Kabul that does not hate Pakistan and whose tail is being wagged by India. If France and Germany can resolve their issues so can Af-Pak. If this was done it would be win win for this region. The big prize would be seeing a integrated CPEC of Af-Pak, Central Asia and Iran spreading out to Turkey connected with China. Integrating this region with Chinese economic clout driving it would bring vast gas, oil, labour, markets of West Asia together. Something like this -

A integrated economic community in Western Asia - a matured CPEC

Unlike most people I expect the conflict to continue for some time even if the Americans do leave you will have remenants of those NA goons,warlords and whatever anti-Pakistan and anti-Taliban forces they will be weaken and easily routed out due to lack of support this will centralize the Taliban as for the Durand Line let them scream and moan but at the end of the day all the supplies of goods and food will come from Karachi .As for Af-Pak relations seeing the shifty Afghan mentality unlike the "ummah chummah" crowd and the cough cough here Pakistan should not treat Afghanistan lightly but dominate as our near abroad, you mention France and Germany but who acts like Boss in Europe its Germany, France is the poodle of Germany same should go for Af-Pak

 

[Path-Finder]

I see a lot of posters here from the US etc talking their lords lingo, but a blast from da past mofo's,

notably a contract for gas being brought from CAS via Pakistan to Arabian sea was awarded to an Argentinian firm and well 3 years later a war starts in afghanistan and if only it had been awarded to haliburton and other oil magnets from . TAPI is a kosher pipeline just to let everyone know but even that is no longer feasible.

 

[Winchester]

Everybody take note of this extract. What we call 'Afghanistan' since 2001 is in fact a American imposed gang [stooge] that Musharaf helped to instal. In other words Pakistan helped America to remove Taliban and in their place instal a stooge regime made up of Pakistan haters from Norther Alliance who had spent most of the 1990s hiding in Panjshir valley. They pro India Northern Alliance hiding in Panjshir knew that Pakistan was supporting their enemies the Taliban and accordingly hated Pakistan to no end. In 2001 we in fact helped these Pakistan haters to rule from Kabul.

Is it no wonder that for the last 18 years Pakistan has been bashed non stop and India become the most favoured in Kabul? Below is the Pakistan hater Abdullah Abdullah in late 1990s hiding in Panjshir with Ahmed Shah Masoud of the NA. Centre left.

This is what Pakistan under Musharaf helped to make him.

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I am not sure why you keep ignoring the role Karzai played and Ashraf Ghani is playing. The whole idea behind Pakistani support to the Taliban is to blanket the ethno-fascist tendencies among Afghan Pushtuns. Those tendencies and the effect of that poison within our border areas is the only threat Pakistan faces from Afghanistan.

That was a threat to Pakistan in the days of Najeeb and Daud long before the Northern Alliance even existed. Tajik hostility towards Pakistan started as a result of Pakistani support to the Taliban. Plus Tajiks are in no position to influence anyone in Pakistan.

Abdullah Abdullah just put out a statement condemning Ghani's tweet vis-a-vis PTM. Whatever the past of our relationship with Tajiks-Uzbeks-Hazara in Afghanistan, our policy should now be to reach out to them.

It doesn't mean abandoning our allies but the days of putting our eggs in just one basket should be over.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I dont trust the Central Asian Republics too because they are just puppet states of Moscow anyways so we need to manoneuvr the Russian bear but we got a good superpower card PRC and the OBOR

I don't like the Russians either. They are far worse then Americans. America at it's worse is still better then Russia. USA is the devil Paks know and they think Russians are good. In fact Russians are class A baskets and I despise them. The best you can do is use them like a grenade with extreme care.

Yes, Central Asia is under Russian spell. But as @Sher Shah Awan said in another thread it's all about money. CA is on the way to becoming a Sinosphere. All Pakistan has to do is help and leverage Chinese via CPEC and make itself relevant as in the map I pasted above. And leave the Russians to drink Vodka and whore their women. And that will happen when their gas/oil dries up.

 

[S.Y.A]

Unlike most people I expect the conflict to continue for some time even if the Americans do leave you will have remenants of those NA goons,warlords and whatever anti-Pakistan and anti-Taliban forces they will be weaken and easily routed out due to lack of support this will centralize the Taliban as for the Durand Line let them scream and moan but at the end of the day all the supplies of goods and food will come from Karachi .As for Af-Pak relations seeing the shifty Afghan mentality unlike the "ummah chummah" crowd and the cough cough here Pakistan should not treat Afghanistan lightly but dominate as our near abroad, you mention France and Germany but who acts like Boss in Europe its Germany, France is the poodle of Germany same should go for Af-Pak

so you want Pakistan to fight the Taliban to ensure Pakistani domination? wow what a freaking genius. why in the hell would they listen to Pakistan? thank god people up there dont think like you, or else we will be repeating the entire wot exercise in a few years.

 

[El Sidd]

i like how after the rapture of 25th july, PDF Pakistanis are now pro Afghans.

it is so adoring

 

[Yankee-stani]

so you want Pakistan to fight the Taliban to ensure Pakistani domination? wow what a freaking genius. why in the hell would they listen to Pakistan? thank god people up there dont think like you, or else we will be repeating the entire wot exercise in a few years.

Do you have a brick in your head did I say we need to fight the Taliban I said those groups who oppose the Taliban will try their best to fight them off till the end I said Pakistan should play the wait game and the Taliban will win anyways all I am saying unlike a lot of excited dudes here we gotta wait and see it aint easy there will be twist and turns

 

[Verve]

I don't like the Russians either. They are far worse then Americans.

Data to back this statement?

Exclude the Soviets, just Russia only please.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I don't like the Russians either. They are far worse then Americans. America at it's worse is still better then Russia. USA is the devil Paks know and they think Russians are good. In fact Russians are class A baskets and I despise them. The best you can do is use them like a grenade with extreme care.

Yes, Central Asia is under Russian spell. But as @Sher Shah Awan said in another thread it's all about money. CA is on the way to becoming a Sinosphere. All Pakistan has to do is help and leverage Chinese via CPEC and make itself relevant as in the map I pasted above. And leave the Russians to drink Vodka and whore their women. And that will happen when their gas/oil dries up.

America and Russia are the same sides of the coin in fact you will see they co-operate a lot more than fight it depends what conflict zone they are in, as much I despise the Americans I would welcome investments not so called Aid just like how China and Ganga benefited what does Russia offer besides oil, gas and whores lol, yeah I anticipate Central Asians will come under the Chinese sphere and Pakistan will benefit from that cause we will finally no longer be isolated in South Asia, Afghanistan will be our Mexico where we can leverage our external influence and trade .Russians Slavs despise Asians be it Central or East cause of the Mongol Horde Loverboys and "ummah chummah" types need to sidelined and to the TURKS I love your bros but drop thise Pan-Turkist and Xinjiang croaking it aint benefiting anyone and the Russians are treating you like loverboys too so calm your asses down as well

Data to back this statement?

Exclude the Soviets, just Russia only please.

Same crap different name the USSR did not fall it just dissolved and became the Russian Federation and Putin talks all the time about how he misses the "good ole days" as for Russia keep dreaming the Eurasian Union is a pipedream and their ganga lovers can croak about How we isolating Pak in CAS all they want

 

[S.Y.A]

Do you have a brick in your head did I say we need to fight the Taliban I said those groups who oppose the Taliban will try their best to fight them off till the end I said Pakistan should play the wait game and the Taliban will win anyways all I am saying unlike a lot of excited dudes here we gotta wait and see it aint easy there will be twist and turns

no you said that you want Pakistan to act like a boss, which if we do will only make matters worse.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Exclude the Soviets, just Russia only please.

Mmm .... this is what they do to Muslims who dare talk about Sharia. Genocide of Chechens.

 

[Yankee-stani]

no you said that you want Pakistan to act like a boss, which if we do will only make matters worse.

I guess you want the same repeat of 1996 and the missed oppurtunity when we had a "laissez-faire" attitude we could go back to days of Nawaz and Mushy and not maintain our influence on Afghanistan besides what state Afghanistan is in there is no state but a facade of a state maintained by NA goons and the Mayor Of Kabul they will automatically turn to us anyways and this time we should take advantage of that

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Data to back this statement?

If the Russians had got hold of your posterior, your name would be Vervolakdska, your dad would be sipping Vodka, that is if you knew who you dad was. I have met enough Muslims from Russia and ex-Soviet republics to know. Before you croak "Soviets" the Tsarist Russia was as worse if not more worse. Find out what they did when they colonised Muslim lands. Make the british/Americans look angels.

Like I said the devil you know hides the the bigger devil ...

 

[Yankee-stani]

Mmm .... this is what they do to Muslims who dare talk about Sharia. Genocide of Chechens.

Not Just Muslims but anyone Kavakaz(Caucasians) or Churka(Asiatic) is bad they hate their fellow whites also Russians view themselves the center of Slavdom