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For all those China Watchers examining tea leaves for some sign of what sort of Communist party leader and national president Xi Jinping will be, a column in Monday's edition of the magazine Study Times is looming large.

The article argues that in the pursuit of political reform, China should adopt the "Singapore model" of liberalized authoritarian capitalism.

The reason this article is attracting so much attention is that Study Times is published by the Communist party's Central Party School, and the president of the school is incoming leader Xi.

Every time the Chinese Communist Party has gone through its once-a-decade change of leaders since the death of regime founder Mao Zedong in 1976, speculation has run rife that this might be the time when the country finally gets a representative and accountable political system.

And after each change those hopes have been frustrated.

Mao's successor Deng Xiaoping introduced a form of market economy, but crushed demands for political reform in 1989.

The next leader, Jiang Zemin, stayed well clear of political reform, but began the system of collective leadership that has flowered under current President Hu Jintao.

Hu, however, has presided over a systemically corrupt and violently authoritarian state that has also revived the domination of state-owned companies over private enterprise.

From what we know of Xi - who will be appointed party leader next month and president early next year - there is no particular reason to believe that he will be an agent of political reform.

Like many of the incoming batch of leaders, he is a "princeling" from a family with an excellent revolutionary pedigree. His father was one of the leaders of the Communists' revolutionary base at Yanan in 1935 and a minister in Mao's government after he took power in 1949.

So Xi Jinping, 59, grew up in an atmosphere of wealth, privilege and the right to rule. But like very many people of his generation, he also suffered in the chaos of the Cultural Revolution and spent several years living and working with peasants in the countryside.

That experience has bred in Xi a cautious attitude and reluctance to say or do anything that might come back to haunt him.

He has floated to the surface as the logical next candidate for party leader and president because he has kept his head down, worked hard, never shied from taking tough assignments, cultivated friends throughout the party and the military, and offended no one.

However, like all the other princeling families, Xi has a lot to protect. A recent investigation by the Bloomberg news agency of public documents found that Xi's wife and close relatives, though not Xi himself, have portfolios of assets in minerals, real estate and mobile phone equipment manufacturers worth nearly $400 million.

Xi himself seems to be well aware that the business perks of power can all too easily be seen by the bulk of China's 1.3 billion people as evidence of corruption.

Xi is reported to have told delegates to an anti-corruption conference in 2004 to "rein in your spouses, children, relatives, friends and staff, and vow not to use power for personal gain."

So far, all efforts have failed to contain corruption and promote economic efficiency while maintaining the privilege of Communist party members in the one-party state.

That's the attraction of Singapore, which by deft management of what appears on the surface to be a multiparty democracy operating under the rule of law, but which in fact operates an economically vigorous and superficially graft-free one-party state.

For several years, Xi has led a team investigating the Singapore model and envisaging how it might be applied to China.

In the summer of 2010, Xi, who is now China's vice-president, had a meeting at the senior party members' beach resort of Beidaihe with Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's former prime minister and founding father whose son is now prime minister and whose family members continue to watch over every major institution in

the city state. The Singapore model is simple to describe.

There is the rule of law and an independent judiciary. But this is aimed primarily at encouraging foreign investment and businesses to Singapore.

On anything touching politics, the courts have a record of finding opposition party leaders guilty of criminal libel against the Lee family, and making them bankrupt with heavy fines that make government opponents ineligible for public office.

There is also careful gerrymandering of constituencies, including widely distributing the populations of Malay and South Asian minorities, so that even a heavy vote for the opposition has little effect on representation in parliament.

The attractions of Singapore to the Chinese Communist Party are therefore obvious.

Far less certain is whether such an intricate system of social political management can be adapted to such a vast and complex country as China.

Perhaps with the advent of the Xi era, the world will find out.



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Saw this in today's local paper, I can't post the news since its subscription only so found something similar to post.

Of course local papers write it with a Singapore centric flair, thought I post it here to here the thoughts from you guys.
 
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It can, but not now.......

Basically adopting the Singapore Regime will help soften the blow fro mthe Chinese Dissident, but it will bring another problem to China.

The Singapore Model work on Singapore simply because singapore is small and the Nominal GDP gap is small while the Nominal GDP is high. Even with open market policy, while the Singapore have average development over singapore as a whole, the Chinese were only selectively developed, when adopting the Model, they will make the GAP between province increase (Currently a rich province like Beijian have 4 times GDP to a poor province like Yunnan (12,000 USD per year vs 2500 USD per year) If they did that without paraelle development to lower income province, it will simply draw the resident emigrate into wealthier city. In the end, the poor will be poorer and more unhappy, while the rich will become ultra rich.

Also, currently china have a single party dominate government, they can afford to ignore the dissident voice and outside voice if they keep on the media blackout, they do not need to progress to semi-socialist state like Singapore just to please the west. When they have bring the gap closer and people in the poorer region more align to the rich region (Maybe about 2.5 fold) then the Singapore Model will fit like a glove to the Chinese
 
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It can, but not now.......

Basically adopting the Singapore Regime will help soften the blow fro mthe Chinese Dissident, but it will bring another problem to China.

The Singapore Model work on Singapore simply because singapore is small and the Nominal GDP gap is small while the Nominal GDP is high. Even with open market policy, while the Singapore have average development over singapore as a whole, the Chinese were only selectively developed, when adopting the Model, they will make the GAP between province increase (Currently a rich province like Beijian have 4 times GDP to a poor province like Yunnan (12,000 USD per year vs 2500 USD per year) If they did that without paraelle development to lower income province, it will simply draw the resident emigrate into wealthier city. In the end, the poor will be poorer and more unhappy, while the rich will become ultra rich.

Also, currently china have a single party dominate government, they can afford to ignore the dissident voice and outside voice if they keep on the media blackout, they do not need to progress to semi-socialist state like Singapore just to please the west. When they have bring the gap closer and people in the poorer region more align to the rich region (Maybe about 2.5 fold) then the Singapore Model will fit like a glove to the Chinese


Agreed, the Singapore model only works because as you said the population is small and the land size as well. I think one advantage Singapore had was the country was mostly made up of migrants hailing from distant lands which made them easier to influence and control (Since no one group had a large influence over a particular aspect). Also dissidents are dealt with quickly since there was no place for them to hide really.

That said there are some positives from Singapore that one can take in, I just wonder which ones
 
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Agreed, the Singapore model only works because as you said the population is small and the land size as well. I think one advantage Singapore had was the country was mostly made up of migrants hailing from distant lands which made them easier to influence and control (Since no one group had a large influence over a particular aspect). Also dissidents are dealt with quickly since there was no place for them to hide really.

That said there are some positives from Singapore that one can take in, I just wonder which ones

It's funny you mentioned the Immgration System, yes, this is the dead spot (or blind spot or whatever you call) in the Chinese Government, There are virtually only net output on the migration Scale, I think i saw one publication mark the point are 9:1, where ther are 9 out for everyone in.

Not that the net lost rate can have any impact to China as they simply have heck a lot of people, the meaning behind this is they do not have people that value the Chinese developement staying behind, and there are not many people that look to China as a valuable move to move in. What it was, in term of economic is there are less foreign investment influx than local currency pouring out. Remember every migrate not only bring themselve into a new country, but they also bring some sort of capital (You need to buy a house and/or invest when you migrate to a new country) 9 to 1 mean 9 people bringing the Resource of China OUT and for every people bringing resource from outside into China. This is very alarming consider not average joe can move to another country, you are talking about big businessman and remaining capitalist.
 
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Singapore is a Chinese majority country which got developed, there must be something good in it. Can anyone briefly introduce the political model of Singapore.
 
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basically, it's a semi-socialist state run authoritorian regime pretty much the same as totalitorian regime in China, that although publicly democratic but they were using another, more 'Legal" method to persecute dissident and anti-government. Look at it like this, they don't arrest people just because they are anti-government, they will arrest the same people and trial them for some time and either they will be convicted and/or bankrupt them so to discredit their influence.

Also, the political party are only voteable to some degree of resident, namely those who born and bret there for several generation.

Economically, they are of free market and do not influnce the market flow. Like as yo ucan find in Hong Kogn or Japan.
 
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multi-post by error, can anyone see this and delete it, thanks
 
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Singapore is small so its easy to manage and cared for but in china case she simply too big to adopt Singapore model
 
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I wish China will. But the likelihood that China adopts Singapore model is 0. Singapore is different.
 
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The Singapore model is indeed admirable, even CPC officials have looked at it frequently. It should be noted, however, that no other country could ever hope to adopt Singapore's unique model in its entirety and succeed; many aspects are tailored specifically for the country's conditions, such as its healthcare system, which would be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to replicate in any other country.

With that said, there are also a lot of things that can be learned from it and implemented, namely the judicial and political systems, among other things. Any gradual reforms that occur can look to Singapore for inspiration :cheers:
 
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The Singapore model is indeed admirable, even CPC officials have looked at it frequently. It should be noted, however, that no other country could ever hope to adopt Singapore's unique model in its entirety and succeed; many aspects are tailored specifically for the country's conditions, such as its healthcare system, which would be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to replicate in any other country.

With that said, there are also a lot of things that can be learned from it and implemented, namely the judicial and political systems, among other things. Any gradual reforms that occur can look to Singapore for inspiration :cheers:

Your country Hong Kong has an excellent model too. In fact, if CCP can adopt what Hong Kong did, I am sure it would succeed.

Unfortunately, it would mean compromising on certain political point which the Communist regime would not tolerate, causing a lot of political in-fighting in the CCP: something which it cannot afford.
 
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Since the beginning of the economical reform in 1978, Deng Xiaoping and the party leadership had their eyes on the Singapore's economic and political systems as guidelines for China to emulate. They realized too China cannot follow Singapore systems to a tee because of the size, population, cultural, social and political makeups were different. So they developed a similar model called: "Socialism with Chinese characteristics".

If everything go according to the plan the state would run the macro economy as a form of 'command economy' through its SOEs and banking system while at the same time encourage private and foreign entrants. As time go on the private section will matured that would provide competitions and efficiencies. So far economically the system is working very well as they controlled the speed of the reforms perfectly. That's critical for a sudden free for all only creates chaotic turmoils.

Politically, of course, they want and implementing a strict one party control and with 80 million members the party is prevalent and dominate every sector of the society. There's nothing Singaporism here, however because the size of the party, there exist some forms of elections or consensus from within the party itself . Sporadic low level civilian elections began to appear the last few years as well.

Ultimately, IMO, the CPC needs to reform and the signs of reform are there. The forces of the internet are simply too great for them to ignore and ignored they are not. We can see many administrative changes in recent years due to the results of internet and physical protestations. Hopefully these new adaptations will evolve Deng Xiaoping's farsighted dream of "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" into fruition.
 
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Isn't China present political system working very well? Why would we adopt unpredictable other model? Why would we risk our future to make you non-Chinese feel happy?
 
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The problem, as i said, is Singapore have a small GDP gap (Less than 50%) between Cities, the Chinese GDP Gap is huge (From 200-400%) which is a result from the selective development where you got a very best quality of living, a living second to none along the eastern seaboard, but you got your extreme poor province where $300USD a month salary are consider high. If the Chinese do implement the Singapore System, which included Freedom of Media and Freedom of movement, then you simply just flood area like Shanghai and Beijian with Out of state worker.

The question always is not Will they do it, the question have always been can they do it. The answer, sadly is no. The best way for China to develope is they stay as is now, you keep developing the city you have developement and create a need to expand and radiate toward surrounding city, only after they have effective leadership and material, they can think of Developing the west.

Also as far i as think, there are not the need to reform currently as China, unlike Singapore, are too big a tiger for the west to mess with, they can get away with almost everything, no like the west will not deal business if they keep the iron curtain and because of a few dissident. They don't need any political reform now, focus on economic developement now and build the base, when you have enough chip, then you should think of a political reform.

Isn't China present political system working very well? Why would we adopt unpredictable other model? Why would we risk our future to make you non-Chinese feel happy?

You are absolutely right, China is on the right track now, political reform will just confuse and conflict the whole "Status Quo" China is too big for what the west think, west always need to deal business with China doesn't matter if the a dictatorship or totalitarian communist regime. They can afford the appeal unlike soviet russia
 
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China has already learn the biggest lesson from the Singaporean system. And that is pragmatism and do not dwell on blind faith in political ideology. China has wasted nearly a century on political idealism. With million of lives lied in ruined or destroyed. Stability and solidarity is an essential and necessary condition to bring wealth and progress.
The Chinese politicians concentrate their energy on getting thing done and improving the life of their citizenry. Not on pie in the sky ideology and infighting.
In all metrics, China is doing fine. Don't believe in all those chicken little that is crying the sky is falling down. They are just exaggerating in the hope to weaken China in-order for them to gain power.
In my opinion, to give up the learned and proven lesson to pursue some unproven promises is stupidity beyond believe.
China is not broken, please don't try to fix it.
 
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