Will attack South Korea if drill goes ahead: North Korea

[Yeti]

Think SK mean business now they are in full alert just waiting to see if Nk will pull another stunt like they did b4.

 

[DesiGuy]

In a civil society, when someone violated the social contract, there is a higher authority to whom the victim can appeal for protection, justice, and perhaps even restitution if applicable. There is no such higher authority for this global society despite what the UN and its believers may say. The only recourse any country has are the consensus of its neighbors and allies to justify its responses. What is happening here with the Chinese members who support NKR is typical of blaming the victim, which is South Korea. If someone assault and rob a homeowner, and if the homeowner decided to seek justice and restitution, would anyone in this civil society criticize and condemn the victim for pushing the issue? So how could anyone legitimately criticize SKR, for lack of a higher authority to act on its behalf, assert its military to prepare for war? Yes...It has to stop somewhere and that stopping point is arms.

i am not blaming SK myself, but i disagree on that stopping point you refereed. That is NOT a stopping point, but that might be just the beginning of long term hatred which already exist. war is just not solution in this case, since those both nations are neighbors. it's not like where one nation go and start a war and than finish it. those both nations have border with each other and it's better as long as they avoid a war. we all may know that SK is the victim here, but that arms "stopping point" is not necessary.....Yet!!

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Think SK mean business now they are in full alert just waiting to see if Nk will pull another stunt like they did b4.

i don't think so...

 

[Yeti]

i don't think so...[/QUOTE]


Heads rolled when NK attacked last time I think public pressure would be too great if there was another similar incident they can't back down again otherwise they would lose even more face .

 

[below_freezing]

Your wrong there my friend, having trained with RoK forces I can tell you they are a very well equipped, trained, and motivated force. the North may have numbers but that doesn't mean much when they are so out classed in modern weaponry and training.

I disagree. Looking from their uniforms, which do not use modern digital camoflauge but use backwards traditional camoflauge, their equipment standards are far below that of China, US and Russia. They are well equipped but do not have the manufacturing capability to sustain a war against a more heavily armed opponent - both their F-15 and F-16 are made in USA and cannot be made in korea. In terms of motivation, that's hard to quantify, but if you asked me, the North Koreans are far more motivated. In addition, if South Korean military is so motivated, why do they still have a national draft? In my opinion, any country that enforces a national draft in peacetime cannot be seen to have a truly motivated army.

 

[Thomas]

I disagree. Looking from their uniforms, which do not use modern digital camoflauge but use backwards traditional camoflauge, their equipment standards are far below that of China, US and Russia. They are well equipped but do not have the manufacturing capability to sustain a war against a more heavily armed opponent - both their F-15 and F-16 are made in USA and cannot be made in korea. In terms of motivation, that's hard to quantify, but if you asked me, the North Koreans are far more motivated. In addition, if South Korean military is so motivated, why do they still have a national draft? In my opinion, any country that enforces a national draft in peacetime cannot be seen to have a truly motivated army.

I don't see anything wrong with their uniforms.

As far as the draft goes. Any country that is in perpetual state of war I think should have a military draft. This ensures that it's military age men are well trained and can be called upon in the event the truce ends. And please detail for me where they are lacking in both manufacturing and modern equipment compared to North Korea? (or even Russia, and China)

 

[gambit]

I disagree. Looking from their uniforms, which do not use modern digital camoflauge but use backwards traditional camoflauge, their equipment standards are far below that of China, US and Russia. They are well equipped but do not have the manufacturing capability to sustain a war against a more heavily armed opponent - both their F-15 and F-16 are made in USA and cannot be made in korea. In terms of motivation, that's hard to quantify, but if you asked me, the North Koreans are far more motivated. In addition, if South Korean military is so motivated, why do they still have a national draft? In my opinion, any country that enforces a national draft in peacetime cannot be seen to have a truly motivated army.

It is always amusing to see how you occasionally contradict yourself. North Korea is a 'draft' state but in your opinion, its military is highly motivated. South Korea military also has compulsory military service, but the troops are not as motivated. So based upon what that you can make these assertion? As for the air forces, what make you think the North Korean air force is superior to US made F-15s and F-16s? Does North Korea even have an air force worth talking about?

 

[gambit]

i am not blaming SK myself, but i disagree on that stopping point you refereed. That is NOT a stopping point, but that might be just the beginning of long term hatred which already exist. war is just not solution in this case, since those both nations are neighbors. it's not like where one nation go and start a war and than finish it. those both nations have border with each other and it's better as long as they avoid a war. we all may know that SK is the victim here, but that arms "stopping point" is not necessary.....Yet!!

If you refuse to grant South Korea the right to assert its military and to retaliate then you are blaming South Korea indirectly. The UN is not going to send forces to apprehend Kim Junk-whoever is in charge.

 

[Thomas]

Pictures of RoK forces (Republic of Korea)

This one looks pretty motivated to me

 

[below_freezing]

I don't see anything wrong with their uniforms.

As far as the draft goes. Any country that is in perpetual state of war I think should have a military draft. This ensures that it's military age men are well trained and can be called upon in the event the truce ends. And please detail for me where they are lacking in both manufacturing and modern equipment compared to North Korea? (or even Russia, and China)

I'm only going by the pictures here:

Google Image Result for http://kamfamily.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/korea-dmz-002.jpg

In addition, the F-15 and F-16 used by South Korea are not able to be made in south korea. This forces them to buy from the US, a dangerous strategy if the shipments from the US are not able to be made - final assembly is made in St. Louis.

McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Thomas]

I'm only going by the pictures here:

Google Image Result for http://kamfamily.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/korea-dmz-002.jpg

In addition, the F-15 and F-16 used by South Korea are not able to be made in south korea. This forces them to buy from the US, a dangerous strategy if the shipments from the US are not able to be made - final assembly is made in St. Louis.

McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

70% of the weapons for the South Korean military are home built. and who cares if they buy f-15's and f-16's from the U.S. when we are the best at it. How many other countries of the world also buy advanced aircraft from us?

The fatigues in your picture are the older woodland pattern. However it is still an effective pattern. It just isn't as styling as digital camo. Let me ask you what is North Koreas reg uniform pattern?

Here is a good comparison

good link to view different camo patterns by country

 

[SpArK]

South Korea starts naval drills in Sea of Japan​

South Korea started on Wednesday three-day military exercises in the Sea of Japan some 100 km south of the disputed border with North Korea, Yonhap news agency cited a spokesman for the South Korean Defense Ministry as saying.

The move comes amid growing tensions between Pyongyang and Seoul, which escalated when North Korea shelled the South's Yeonpyeong Island on November 23, killing four people and provoking an exchange of fire between the hostile nations.
At least six naval ships and antisubmarine helicopters are taking part in the drills, which Yonhap said were aimed at demonstrating that the South Korean military is ready for "any surprise attacks from North Korean."


The North does not recognize the sea border between the two countries, known as the Northern Limit Line, and claims the waters around Yeonpyeong as its territory.
MOSCOW, December 22 (RIA Novosti)

 

[SpArK]

 

[applesauce]

apparently NK is backing on its threats now that sk is saying they will go ahead with more drills, and says now it ready for talks, which sk and us refuses

 

[mayankmatador]

sk is superior in military and has a modernized weaponry and has gud no. of strong allies usa (NATO), India,japan etc.
wheras
nk has inferior weaponry and few friends like china and communist countries but is compensated by wmd and long range missiles.....

not keep ur finger crossed something exciting is going to happen.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

sk is superior in military and has a modernized weaponry and has gud no. of strong allies usa (NATO), India,japan etc.
wheras
nk has inferior weaponry and few friends like china and communist countries but is compensated by wmd and long range missiles.....

not keep ur finger crossed something exciting is going to happen.

India doesn't have any military pact with SK,also i doubt SK would seek help from Japan on this issue.