Will Arab states support Pakistan militarily in future conflict with India?

[BLACKEAGLE]

Guys, We both Arabs & Pakistanis helped each other in times of need, it's unethical to remember the little you gave and forget the much you took. I don't bother searching for military aids in 1971, Arab multi billion aids, free oil, and million of jobs offered to Pakistanis. Belittling/forgetting our help, and over exaggerating yours will not help us getting close. You just remember the 16 pilots were sent in 67 war and forgetting about Jordanian help in 71 war, there are unfortunately some members here claimed they were sent due to US pressure on Jordan, whatever you convince yourselves. Who cares...

 

[somebozo]

4. Certainly and absolutely no Nukie bumb for Arabs that has made in Pakistan stamp. What are you trying to do. Get Pakistan under heavy international sanctions?

You already know how much pressure can Arabs sustain before giving up and blaming it all on Pakistan.

Point in case Ghaddafi and Saddam - both of whom readily gave evidences of Pakistani centrifuge offer by AQ Khan.

Guys, We both Arabs & Pakistanis helped each other in times of need, it's unethical to remember the little you gave and forget the much you took. I don't bother searching for military aids in 1971, Arab multi billion aids, free oil, and million of jobs offered to Pakistanis. Belittling/forgetting our help, and over exaggerating yours will not help us getting close. You just remember the 16 pilots were sent in 67 war and forgetting about Jordanian help in 71 war, there are unfortunately some members here claimed they were sent due to US pressure on Jordan, whatever you convince yourselves. Who cares...

We dont want aid - we want trade and investment but much of the Arab money is invested in India...
We never received free oil - just subsidized or deffered payments for few months after the nuke test. You think we will be having energy crisis if we got free oil.
More Indians work in overall gulf than Pakistanis so dont play the job card.


End of the day we are trying to have a factual discussion but you people have been raised with black and white mentality so any facts which goes against your direction is immediately considered belittling and humiliation...Arab ego is something to talk about...no wonder the west is able to squeeze all your money by simply stepping on your ego....

 

[FaujHistorian]

You already know how much pressure can Arabs sustain before giving up and blaming it all on Pakistan.

Point in case Ghaddafi and Saddam - both of whom readily gave evidences of Pakistani centrifuge offer by AQ Khan.


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Agreed on the main point.

Just a correction. It was Libya-Qaddafi and Iranian-Ayatullahs who sold our Namak Haraam A Q Khan to the dogs.

Saddam nukies were not supported by Khan network. Not that I know off. But Iranians and Libyans were helped.


peace.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Pakistanis live in a made up world when it comes to war and Arabs.

FYI. There were three Arab countries with an army worth noting. They were Egypt, Syria, and Iraq.

All three were commie-campers allies.

Pakistan on the other hand was American-camper aka ally

India on the other hand was a commie-camper too,

So the natural affinity for three big Arabs was India and not Pakistan. All commies flew together and thus Arabs were not going to help Pakistan in 65 or 71.

The only exception was the Jordan who was American ally and thus in the same camp as Pakistan.

In the 70s when Commie-supported Palestinians started militancy against King, then Pakistani army led by none other than Zia-ul-Haq beat the cr@p out of Yasser Arafat's goons and so saved the King.


However many Paks ignore that and keep on singing tunes about non-existent tunes of Arab-Pak bhai bhai.


peace,.

 

[somebozo]

Agreed on the main point.

Just a correction. It was Libya-Qaddafi and Iranian-Ayatullahs who sold our Namak Haraam A Q Khan to the dogs.

Saddam nukies were not supported by Khan network. Not that I know off. But Iranians and Libyans were helped.


peace.

Saddam being a commie camper thought AQ Khan offer was a trap set up by CIA - but still he did give up the cover that once upon a time he was offered by AQ Khan..

Pakistanis live in a made up world when it comes to war and Arabs.

FYI. There were three Arab countries with an army worth noting. They were Egypt, Syria, and Iraq.

All three were commie-campers allies.

Pakistan on the other hand was American-camper aka ally

India on the other hand was a commie-camper too,

So the natural affinity for three big Arabs was India and not Pakistan. All commies flew together and thus Arabs were not going to help Pakistan in 65 or 71.

The only exception was the Jordan who was American ally and thus in the same camp as Pakistan.

In the 70s when Commie-supported Palestinians started militancy against King, then Pakistani army led by none other than Zia-ul-Haq beat the cr@p out of Yasser Arafat's goons and so saved the King.


However many Paks ignore that and keep on singing tunes about non-existent tunes of Arab-Pak bhai bhai.


peace,.

Thanks for nailing it right on!

 

[Mercenary]

Pakistanis live in a made up world when it comes to war and Arabs.

FYI. There were three Arab countries with an army worth noting. They were Egypt, Syria, and Iraq.

All three were commie-campers allies.

Pakistan on the other hand was American-camper aka ally

India on the other hand was a commie-camper too,

So the natural affinity for three big Arabs was India and not Pakistan. All commies flew together and thus Arabs were not going to help Pakistan in 65 or 71.

The only exception was the Jordan who was American ally and thus in the same camp as Pakistan.

In the 70s when Commie-supported Palestinians started militancy against King, then Pakistani army led by none other than Zia-ul-Haq beat the cr@p out of Yasser Arafat's goons and so saved the King.


However many Paks ignore that and keep on singing tunes about non-existent tunes of Arab-Pak bhai bhai.


peace,.

Then if India and Arabs were in the Soviet Camps and Pakistan and Israel in the American Camp.

Why didn't India help out the Arabs in the 1967 and 1973 Wars?

Why was Pakistan helping them out?

 

[somebozo]

Then if India and Arabs were in the Soviet Camps and Pakistan and Israel in the American Camp.

Why didn't India help out the Arabs in the 1967 and 1973 Wars?

Why was Pakistan helping them out?

We were just charged up with stupid sensationalism of brotherhood and ummah!
Going against Israel turned a neutral country into a best ally of our arch foe!

 

[FaujHistorian]

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Why was Pakistan helping them out?

How many brigades if not divisions of Pak army went over to help Arabs? Zilch, nada, zero, shunny.

not in 67 when Arabs lost everything and their mother-in-law, Pakistan was no where to be found
not in 73 when Arabs lost everything and Egypt's 3rd army was encircled by tiny Israel, Pakistan was no where to be found

The only exception was the Jordan who was American ally and thus in the same camp as Pakistan.

In the 70s when Commie-supported Palestinians started militancy against King, then one brigade of Pakistani army led by none other than Zia-ul-Haq beat the cr@p out of Yasser Arafat's goons and so saved the King.

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Why didn't India help out the Arabs in the 1967 and 1973 Wars?

?

Ask Indians . Perhaps they too were afraid of Israel and American retaliation.


peace

 

[ashokdeiva]

Then if India and Arabs were in the Soviet Camps and Pakistan and Israel in the American Camp.

Why didn't India help out the Arabs in the 1967 and 1973 Wars?

Why was Pakistan helping them out?

we were in no ones camp, we just had good friendship with the SOVITs which we have maintained till today.
Have you heared about NAM?
if two countries wage war, its their idiocracy not to have solved the issue on table. the Arab Isreali war was started by the Arabs, and claiming a piece of land that you sold to some one is mear stupidity. Besides no one else could have done wonders to the land that Jews bought except Jews. Look at the way they have progressed and made their Home a place of development and prosperity to their people.

 

[FaujHistorian]

We were just charged up with stupid sensationalism of brotherhood and ummah!
Going against Israel turned a neutral country into a best ally of our arch foe!

Oh my dear,

Israel is not our "arch foe". Show me one Israeli leader who says a democratic or even Military led Pakistan is any threat to Israel. Show me just one. Please just one.

The reason is that we did not help in 67 war and neither in 73. Do not believe in made up heroic stories of this Pakistani pilot or that.

Israeli airforce utterly destroyed Arab airforce in combat every time any time. 67 they didn't even let the Arab airforce off the ground, In 73, Arab victories only came thanks to SAMs and not due to Arab piloting skills.

How can an sane Pakistani want to send Pakistani pilots into that kind of mess. Some privately may have gone. but that all.


The real strength of Pakistan is Pak army. And we did not send even a platoon to defend Jerusalem or Cairo, or Golan.

These are the facts.

But Still Mullahs in Pakistan keep on telling lies.

peace

p.s. The only thing an Israeli may say is that a Taliban led Pakistan is dangerous. But then we the Pakistanis say the same thing. Haven't we seen what the Talibobs did to Bajor and Swat? Do we want to see the same thing done to Pindi and Lahore?

 

[FaujHistorian]

we were in no ones camp, we just had good friendship with the SOVITs which we have maintained till today.
Have you heared about NAM?

NAM was a ruse for socialists and commies who didn't want to admit it openly that they are with commies.

We have those kind in Pakistan too. Some wear jubba and appear as Mullah but inside they are commies. Perhaps Green or Subzee commies but still commies.

Oh and BTW, Sham sham NAM disappeared with the demise of commies. You know why? Because NAM's funding disappeared when Commies died.

peace.

 

[somebozo]

Oh my dear,

Israel is not our "arch foe". Show me one Israeli leader who says a democratic or even Military led Pakistan is any threat to Israel. Show me just one. Please just one.

The reason is that we did not help in 67 war and neither in 73. Do not believe in made up heroic stories of this Pakistani pilot or that.

Israeli airforce utterly destroyed Arab airforce in combat every time any time. 67 they didn't even let the Arab airforce off the ground, In 73, Arab victories only came thanks to SAMs and not due to Arab piloting skills.

How can an sane Pakistani want to send Pakistani pilots into that kind of mess. Some privately may have gone. but that all.


The real strength of Pakistan is Pak army. And we did not send even a platoon to defend Jerusalem or Cairo, or Golan.

These are the facts.

But Still Mullahs in Pakistan keep on telling lies.

peace

p.s. The only thing an Israeli may say is that a Taliban led Pakistan is dangerous. But then we the Pakistanis say the same thing. Haven't we seen what the Talibobs did to Bajor and Swat? Do we want to see the same thing done to Pindi and Lahore?

I did not say arch foe...i said best ally of our arch foe..pointing to Indian-Israel Alliance..you need to read twice before posting once.

 

[ashokdeiva]

NAM was a ruse for socialists and commies who didn't want to admit it openly that they are with commies.

We have those kind in Pakistan too. Some wear jubba and appear as Mullah but inside they are commies. Perhaps Green or Subzee commies but still commies.

Oh and BTW, Sham sham NAM disappeared with the demise of commies. You know why? Because NAM's funding disappeared when Commies died.

peace.

we have not been any part of any NATO, SENTO, SETO, etc and non of the NAM members are? guess what NAM is still alive and you forgot to be in the real world.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Pakistanis live in a made up world when it comes to war and Arabs.

FYI. There were three Arab countries with an army worth noting. They were Egypt, Syria, and Iraq.

All three were commie-campers allies.

Pakistan on the other hand was American-camper aka ally

India on the other hand was a commie-camper too,

So the natural affinity for three big Arabs was India and not Pakistan. All commies flew together and thus Arabs were not going to help Pakistan in 65 or 71.

The only exception was the Jordan who was American ally and thus in the same camp as Pakistan.

In the 70s when Commie-supported Palestinians started militancy against King, then Pakistani army led by none other than Zia-ul-Haq beat the cr@p out of Yasser Arafat's goons and so saved the King.


However many Paks ignore that and keep on singing tunes about non-existent tunes of Arab-Pak bhai bhai.


peace,.

WTFFFF!!
Pakistan saved the king? are you kidding me? Jordanian army personal at that time were 55000, this army performance in all Arab-Israeli wars was relatively the best. Yes Pakistan HELPED in fighting PLO but the major fighting was by Jordanian army which half of it were Palestinians. Guys come on!

 

[Armstrong]

Guys, We both Arabs & Pakistanis helped each other in times of need, it's unethical to remember the little you gave and forget the much you took. I don't bother searching for military aids in 1971, Arab multi billion aids, free oil, and million of jobs offered to Pakistanis. Belittling/forgetting our help, and over exaggerating yours will not help us getting close. You just remember the 16 pilots were sent in 67 war and forgetting about Jordanian help in 71 war, there are unfortunately some members here claimed they were sent due to US pressure on Jordan, whatever you convince yourselves. Who cares...

You're not going to let me forget that bit...are you ! I said...sorry !