WikiLeaks: Narendra Modi, the lone honest Indian politician

[Rig Vedic]

For your mental edification, the Supreme Court was so skeptical about the propensity to protect brother officers on the part of the SIT chairman that it appointed an amicus curiae to assist it. This is nothing but an admission that the SIT failed, and other, safer alternatives are needed.

If RK Raghavan, the SIT Chairman, is a part of any conspiracy to shield anybody, then why the delay in prosecuting and jailing him under relevant sections of the IPC.

That is the problem with the rabid industry of Modi baiters - lots of insinuations which never seem to be able to withstand any sober scrutiny. One does hope this woman Teesta will be held accountable for perjury.

Anyway, here is what the man has to say -

For SIT chief Raghavan, law comes above religion - Rediff.com India News

‘I will not allow the victims to be let down'

Full transcript: Stand by my report on no evidence against Modi, says SIT chief RK Raghavan to NDTV | NDTV.com

 

[Rig Vedic]

Madhu Kishwar's ongoing Magnum Opus -

MODINAMA 1 - Narendra Modi through the Eyes of Gujarati Muslims, Christians and…

MODINAMA 2 - Actions Taken by Narendra Modi to Control the Riots following Godhra Train Massacre

MODINAMA 3 - Economic Profile of Muslims in Gujarat: Some Key Indicators

MODINAMA 4 - Did Muslims Vote for Modi Led BJP out of Fear?

MODINAMA 5 - Of Skull Cap, Miyan Musharraf and Modi's Sadbhavana Yatra

... more parts to come.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir you are a senior member here. Surely you are aware the the Congress has butchered far more people than Modi is alleged to have harmed, even by his most rabid critics?

I am indeed aware of this, and it accounts for a small part of my opposition to the Congress.

Please note that in the post you have referred to, my objection was specifically to the scurrilous attacks made on an individual who even in the midst of scoundrels and rogues kept his integrity and his spirit of patriotism, and did not hesitate to embarrass his father-in-law by exposing the corruption of his minister.

As for the Congress, the earlier we see an end to it, the better.

 

[manojb]

one cable says namo is bully, controlling another says he is honest .. hm

 

[sankranti]

Move on. Can't be bothered educating you.

LOL...you make allegation and when ask for proof you ask us to 'move on'. Why not just admit that you were wrong ?

Which part of "I have read the entire account by both the gentlemen in question" do you not understand? Don't need your part that you managed to ferret out. in case you have no idea & obviously you don't, I hold the highest respect for both Vajpayee & Jaswant Singh & I do believe that Jaswant Singh's engagement with the U.S. through Talbott was one of Indian diplomacy's finest hours.

It does portray them in a very unflattering light suggesting that they are not able to put the country's interest over their own partisan one, something that they often accuse then Congress of doing.

Let us get this part straight .....India is still a 'Dalit' as far as Global Nuclear caste system is concerned. Only thing congress has negotiated is to allow this 'Dalit' into the temple. MMS has made India accepted Indias 'Dalit' status globally. Let us not get carried away with your absurd rhetoric.

Now second part.....As the Bhagwat Gita says ...Everybody has to do their duty. If a lawyer does his role in supporting a rapist, it does not mean he supports Rape.

Ruling party has a responsibility and Opposition has its responsibility. Nothing the BJP has done has gone against its role as a opposition. You might want BJP to play a more pliable role to satisfy your ego and silly belief that the nuclear deal was a god send to India. That does not mean BJP need to or that it will. You do not see this due to your obvious bias, others do.

There is a silly fellow here but that's you I'm afraid. National interests are not quid pro quo areas & anyone insinuating it is shows where they stand.

Btw, I have no issues if you don't feel like discussing with me. Please feel free not to bother.

You are the one making allegations and failing to provide proof for the same at the same time trying to showcase Indo US Nuclear deal as a gift to Indians. I think we all understand who is the silly boy in this debate.

 

[sankranti]

That's like saying Stalin is better than Idi Amin - either way, India is f..ed.

LOL ....After comparing Modi to Hitler, Modi has become Stalin......it wont be long before you compare him to satan

You are truly the most objective of us lot.

 

[sankranti]

What's with this canard?

From your same source ...

Indira's father Jawaharlal Nehru opposed her marriage and approached Mahatma Gandhi to dissuade the young couple, but to no avail. However, over the years, father-in-law and son-in-law resolved their differences. By now, Feroze had adopted his mother's surname Gandhy (which was spelled as Gandhi to match Mahatma Gandhi's surname) for himself.

If Gandhy was his mother name, clearly his siblings will not have the same surname unless you are going to claim parsis adopt their mothers surnames as their own instead of their fathers.

Second point is if Congress is 'SECULAR' what is the need for Nehru's Son In Law to change his surname ? ....clearly Nehru wanted a SIL who would not hamper his career in his 'secular' party.

 

[sankranti]

For a person who calls himself 'apolitical', unless the nick you have adopted is intended to be sarcastic, you do seem to spend a lot of time, considering how long you have spent on the forum, defending one set of people. It is not new for hired assassins to be removed forcibly from membership and then come around again under a false name, but I sincerely hope that this is not your case.

Is Joe Shearer a name for person who is a hired character assassin ? but I sincerely hope that this is not your case.

Regarding the point that you made, it is utterly indefensible. The BJP is known, prominently and in public knowledge, to the political front of the RSS, which has other fronts as well, together constituting the Sangh Parivar. It has no views of its own. Those in the BJP who have the audacity to drift too far from the RSS line are soon reduced to the ranks. This was displayed most prominently in the recent rearrangements made by Rajnath Singh, on taking over from Gadkari.

Therefore, the RSS has brought itself into the forefront, and cannot claim a privileged 'apolitical' position. That is its position only in name. In fact, it is involved in politics up to its neck.

RSS is a organization that has declared intention of protecting Indians against whatever they perceive as a threat to our existence. It has a stated organizational goal and is dedicated to peruse peaceful means to achieve that goal. Certainly politics means and support is one of the legitimate channels for achieving that goal. That does not mean it is a political organization.

BJP is a political organization that is also a political wing of RSS but it also operates as an independent organization as its source of funding is independent of the RSS . It draws manpower and party cadres from RSS but RSS is not the ONLY source of its cadres.

Rest of your allegation is PURE SPECULATION and attempts to push speculation as 'facts' will be seen as prejudiced opinion at best or propaganda at worst.

Your gallantry is misplaced, and would be better displayed in the cause of those brutalized in the riots that Modi instigated, rather in defending him.

For your mental edification, the Supreme Court was so skeptical about the propensity to protect brother officers on the part of the SIT chairman that it appointed an amicus curiae to assist it. This is nothing but an admission that the SIT failed, and other, safer alternatives are needed.

His Gallantry is applauded by a lot of others and your gallantry will be better displayed in the cause of those brutalized by the riots by congress govt. including those in Assam, rather than pick on Modi with an agenda.

Under congress rule the less said about the Supreme court the better. Most educated Indians today are aware of the disrepute of many of its luminaries......I would genuinely value Integrity of someone like MODI how is continuously under scrutiny than the high and mighty who are not accountable to anyone. Still we have no choice but the resort to the Supreme court as an institution (irrespective of who runs it) for some hope of justice. Political leaning of the SC apart, SIT has done a good job and has been fair, on the other hand Amicus curiae observations has major gaps which has been exposed. Google has all of this.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Is Joe Shearer a name for person who is a hired character assassin ? but I sincerely hope that this is not your case.

RSS is a organization that has declared intention of protecting Indians against whatever they perceive as a threat to our existence. It has a stated organizational goal and is dedicated to peruse peaceful means to achieve that goal. Certainly politics means and support is one of the legitimate channels for achieving that goal. That does not mean it is a political organization.

BJP is a political organization that is also a political wing of RSS but it also operates as an independent organization as its source of funding is independent of the RSS . It draws manpower and party cadres from RSS but RSS is not the ONLY source of its cadres.

Rest of your allegation is PURE SPECULATION and attempts to push speculation as 'facts' will be seen as prejudiced opinion at best or propaganda at worst.

His Gallantry is applauded by a lot of others and your gallantry will be better displayed in the cause of those brutalized by the riots by congress govt. including those in Assam, rather than pick on Modi with an agenda.

Under congress rule the less said about the Supreme court the better. Most educated Indians today are aware of the disrepute of many of its luminaries......I would genuinely value Integrity of someone like MODI how is continuously under scrutiny than the high and mighty who are not accountable to anyone. Still we have no choice but the resort to the Supreme court as an institution (irrespective of who runs it) for some hope of justice. Political leaning of the SC apart, SIT has done a good job and has been fair, on the other hand Amicus curiae observations has major gaps which has been exposed. Google has all of this.

Since you are apparently new to this forum, unless you happen to be a banned member seeking re-entry through subterfuge, it is presumptuous for you to judge my track record, and what I stand for.

I notice that you do not deny the facts behind the RSS - BJP relationship, but try to obfuscate matters by talking about funding. It is not funding that is the issue, but the ability of the RSS to make or break BJP leaders at will.

It is not surprising that you value the integrity of a pack of caste-obsessed religious bigots over the Supreme Court. It is surprising that you admit it in public; most of your kind try to wrap it up for decency's sake.

I am glad that you show yourself to be a Sangh Parivar stooge without any beating about the bush. It makes it easier to discount your contributions as belonging to a paid-up member of a lunatic fringe.

 

[MilSpec]

Has supreme court of India indicted Modi? If not, he is innocent.period.

What is the administrative track record for Modi?

What is India inc's opinion towards Modi?

Does modi have the writ to take tough decisions, does he have a spine unlike MMS

Will modi be able to facilitate India's growth potential

What will be Modi's national agenda,

Will modi be able to work with the same vigor under the NDA-2 alliance pressures

Will a government under modi remain bipartisan towards state governments ruled by congress/communists/JD etc

These imho are a few key aspects every individual needs to analyse before considering his candidature.

 

[bronxbull]

Since you are apparently new to this forum, unless you happen to be a banned member seeking re-entry through subterfuge, it is presumptuous for you to judge my track record, and what I stand for.

I notice that you do not deny the facts behind the RSS - BJP relationship, but try to obfuscate matters by talking about funding. It is not funding that is the issue, but the ability of the RSS to make or break BJP leaders at will.

It is not surprising that you value the integrity of a pack of caste-obsessed religious bigots over the Supreme Court. It is surprising that you admit it in public; most of your kind try to wrap it up for decency's sake.

I am glad that you show yourself to be a Sangh Parivar stooge without any beating about the bush. It makes it easier to discount your contributions as belonging to a paid-up member of a lunatic fringe.

Is typical of your Bhadralok mind to give random open comments like this?

Gadkari was the RSS candidate and the others chose Rajnath over him,if you dont knw the facts.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Is typical of your Bhadralok mind to give random open comments like this?

Gadkari was the RSS candidate and the others chose Rajnath over him,if you dont knw the facts.

And the ones who do not give random open comments are what precisely? Gadkari was the RSS candidate; nobody gets into authority without the RSS approval.

 

[sankranti]

Since you are apparently new to this forum, unless you happen to be a banned member seeking re-entry through subterfuge, it is presumptuous for you to judge my track record, and what I stand for.

I notice that you do not deny the facts behind the RSS - BJP relationship, but try to obfuscate matters by talking about funding. It is not funding that is the issue, but the ability of the RSS to make or break BJP leaders at will.

It is not surprising that you value the integrity of a pack of caste-obsessed religious bigots over the Supreme Court. It is surprising that you admit it in public; most of your kind try to wrap it up for decency's sake.

I am glad that you show yourself to be a Sangh Parivar stooge without any beating about the bush. It makes it easier to discount your contributions as belonging to a paid-up member of a lunatic fringe.

You seem to fear this 'banned member'. This is the second or third time you are referring to him/she/them.

What you stand for is clear from your writing and we are all going to judge you from them. Did you really think you can point fingers at others and slyly call them names and get away by claiming to be an old member ?

Your ability to see the obvious is as apparent as your ability to convince yourself that your speculation is somehow facts because you believe it to be so. Clearly something as inconvenient as proof is secondary to your staunch beliefs and prejudices. RSS is ONE of the factors that make or break BJP leaders....others being mass base, money, network, media under their control and opportunity. BUT why admit to all these facts when you can furnish grandiose opinions and half truths to push some agenda.

Your Anti Brahmanic views which has mutated to Anti Hindu agenda based on casteist lines is also clearly visible over the span of your previous posts......only saving grace being your pro buddhist stance. Your father was given a raw deal as a Dalit and now you hate hindus for who they are ? You a Periyar fan ?

My honesty and integrity to admit facts seems to surprise you. Is it because its a departure from your own nature ?

You somehow seem to indicate that being a Hindu or being a Sangh supporter is something to be ashamed of ....its an old congress trick .....but it does not seem to work on the new generation. Maybe you need to change with the times. Hopefully you will now think twice before pointing fingers at other members. Then again ....maybe its wishful thinking.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You seem to fear this 'banned member'. This is the second or third time you are referring to him/she/them.

What you stand for is clear from your writing and we are all going to judge you from them. Did you really think you can point fingers at others and slyly call them names and get away by claiming to be an old member ?

Your ability to see the obvious is as apparent as your ability to convince yourself that your speculation is somehow facts because you believe it to be so. Clearly something as inconvenient as proof is secondary to your staunch beliefs and prejudices. RSS is ONE of the factors that make or break BJP leaders....others being mass base, money, network, media under their control and opportunity. BUT why admit to all these facts when you can furnish grandiose opinions and half truths to push some agenda.

Your Anti Brahmanic views which has mutated to Anti Hindu agenda based on casteist lines is also clearly visible over the span of your previous posts......only saving grace being your pro buddhist stance. Your father was given a raw deal as a Dalit and now you hate hindus for who they are ? You a Periyar fan ?

My honesty and integrity to admit facts seems to surprise you. Is it because its a departure from your own nature ?

You somehow seem to indicate that being a Hindu or being a Sangh supporter is something to be ashamed of ....its an old congress trick .....but it does not seem to work on the new generation. Maybe you need to change with the times. Hopefully you will now think twice before pointing fingers at other members. Then again ....maybe its wishful thinking.

Now how on earth did a member from April 2013 get such a tender conscience about 'banned members'?

 

[sankranti]

Now how on earth did a member from April 2013 get such a tender conscience about 'banned members'?

Why dont you answer my questions first ?