Why?

[Viva_Viet]

Yes, and the Egyptians weren't battle hardened like the Vietnamese after over a decade of continuous war.

Btw, US-France should apologize for attacking and invading VN once day. Your economy is in bad shape now, US'd better make more friends than enemies this time, otherwise, US will have the same fate wt Mongol empire. U can fight well, but u failed to keep your economy growing, then soon CN will defeat u like Mongol.

 

[KAL-EL]

First, its abt education, we are taught that CN always want to invade and annex VN again and again no matter who is CN leaders.

Second, in US, only the White want to make trouble for VN ( war, color revolutions, sanctions etc) while the Black support Vnese bcs they are also oppressed people like us.

During VN war, we got support from Martin luther King, Muhammad Ali and another million black men . After the war, we got support from president Obama with TPP deal, nuclear deal that likely allows VN enrichment in our own soil etc.

Unlike CN, they all wanna annex our islands in SCS ( east VN sea), we always got support from millions US black men. We may still dislike the White, but the Black is our best friends

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You said only whites want to make trouble for Vietnam and that’s not true, because I’m white, and I have nothing against Vietnam.

You of all people know this, Being that I’m friendly with Vietnamese people here on PDF.

I can’t speak about the Vietnam war because I didn’t exist at that time.

 

[Viet]

Here is a interesting fact. Vietnam lost nearly million dead to US bombs and guns. That is more dead then any Muslim country has lost in the last 70 years. In other words Vietnam is the single biggest victim of US military power than any other country since WW2.

On the other hand Vietnam killed nearly 60,000 American military personnel. More Americans have died at the hands of Vietnamese then in any other war since WW2. If you count every American killed by every single Muslim country since WW2 the number is still 10 times less.

This means Vietnanese fought like lions and killed Americans on epic scale and the defeated them. No Muslim country has done this damage or fought so well or defeated the USA like Vietname did.

Although the other side of coin is Americans killed million Vietnames. By this measure the Vietnamese would be entitled to nurse the biggest hatred for America then any other. On the American side with 60,000 lost I could understand if America despised the Vietnames.

But why is it today the Vietnamese are such good friends with Americans who in turn also have a soft spot for Vietnam. Contrast this to the hate you see by many Pakistani's against USA when there is no historty of bloodbath like Viet/USA war.

It’s a cultural thing. For us, the Americans, french, japanese, Koreans and many other are just foreigners, they come they go. Yes even the cultural similar Koreans and Japanese are foreigners. We don’t hold any bad personal feeling. In contrast, we take the chinese and things we do to us very personally. We can’t forgive them. Maybe when time goes by we are getting older we will move on.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Btw, US-France should apologize for attacking and invading VN once day. Your economy is in bad shape now, US'd better make more friends than enemies this time, otherwise, US will have the same fate wt Mongol empire. U can fight well, but u failed to keep your economy growing, then soon CN will defeat u like Mongol.

Not sure what you are talking about. We were brought in by the South Vietnamese government to repel the North funded VietCong.

 

[CriticalThought]

Here is a interesting fact. Vietnam lost nearly million dead to US bombs and guns. That is more dead then any Muslim country has lost in the last 70 years. In other words Vietnam is the single biggest victim of US military power than any other country since WW2.

On the other hand Vietnam killed nearly 60,000 American military personnel. More Americans have died at the hands of Vietnamese then in any other war since WW2. If you count every American killed by every single Muslim country since WW2 the number is still 10 times less.

This means Vietnanese fought like lions and killed Americans on epic scale and the defeated them. No Muslim country has done this damage or fought so well or defeated the USA like Vietname did.

Although the other side of coin is Americans killed million Vietnames. By this measure the Vietnamese would be entitled to nurse the biggest hatred for America then any other. On the American side with 60,000 lost I could understand if America despised the Vietnames.

But why is it today the Vietnamese are such good friends with Americans who in turn also have a soft spot for Vietnam. Contrast this to the hate you see by many Pakistani's against USA when there is no historty of bloodbath like Viet/USA war.

Aligned interests against China. It's as simple as that.

 

[grandmaster]

Here is a interesting fact. Vietnam lost nearly million dead to US bombs and guns. That is more dead then any Muslim country has lost in the last 70 years. In other words Vietnam is the single biggest victim of US military power than any other country since WW2.

On the other hand Vietnam killed nearly 60,000 American military personnel. More Americans have died at the hands of Vietnamese then in any other war since WW2. If you count every American killed by every single Muslim country since WW2 the number is still 10 times less.

This means Vietnanese fought like lions and killed Americans on epic scale and the defeated them. No Muslim country has done this damage or fought so well or defeated the USA like Vietname did.

Although the other side of coin is Americans killed million Vietnames. By this measure the Vietnamese would be entitled to nurse the biggest hatred for America then any other. On the American side with 60,000 lost I could understand if America despised the Vietnames.

But why is it today the Vietnamese are such good friends with Americans who in turn also have a soft spot for Vietnam. Contrast this to the hate you see by many Pakistani's against USA when there is no historty of bloodbath like Viet/USA war.

the simple thing can say like Vietnam is a weak country. A weak country will seek out and find ally. Also because VN is a weak country. It can't censor western propaganda. it was easily moved by western propaganda.
the complicated thing to say is there is a huge army of vietnamese boat people in US and these boat people become anti china propagandists now a day like Hamartia.

 

[the_messenger]

We want to balance those super powers so we can live in peace.
If China is too strong, they may think of ways to influence us, heavily, we don't want that
If the US is too strong, they may want a weak VN government so they can easily control us and create a spearhead to mess up China, we don't want that either
Do not be fooled by the news which are mainly US based -many of them are running agenda against VN-. In strategic relationships. VN places the relationship with China two levels ABOVE the US, the relationship with China is in the same league of Russia and India.

 

[khansaheeb]

Vietnam recognizes the difference between US govt and US people. It knows the US people even at that time was largely against the war and it was only the US govt of that time who wanted the war due to reasons of cold war with Communism.
On the US side, they have realized their folly and now are ashamed of waging war on Vietnam. Also, the fear they had that a Communist Vietnam would conspire with Russia to have anti-US policies did not materialize.
There are no ongoing disputes between US and Vietnam. Both have common concerns with regards to China and hence are becoming allies.

Do you same for Indians vis Pakistan?

 

[Imran Khan]

they are not blind like us muslims they make enemy and friends on the base of interests

 

[Viet]

they are not blind like us muslims they make enemy and friends on the base of interests

We are pragmatic people. We are not hindered by religion, skin color, political view or anything else. You are bound by islam we are bound by common interests. We are not like fanatic mullah that think religion is the holy grail or like the chinese that think a combination of nationalism, racism, chinesm and yellow is the best of the bests.

 

[Song Hong]

There are anti China propaganda running 24 x 7. Reality Vietnamese benefited enormously from Chinese culture.

 

[hualushui]

There are anti China propaganda running 24 x 7. Reality Vietnamese benefited enormously from Chinese culture.

This is because the Vietnamese do not have confidence in their own national system.
Ten years ago, many intellectuals in China opposed the Chinese government, believing that as long as the Communist Party of China collapsed, China would be prosperous through elections.
In recent years, Chinese citizens have acquired a lot of knowledge through the Internet, learned more about China’s reality, and more about the shortcomings of the United States. We have become more rational and confident, and our evaluation of the Chinese government has become more objective.
Vietnam is now the same as China 10 years ago. Many Vietnamese imagine that they will become rich if they become an American system. This is absurd. Ten years later, Vietnam will become more developed and prosperous, and the Vietnamese will evaluate their own system more objectively, and their illusions about the United States will be shattered.

 

[Nan Yang]

Here is a interesting fact. Vietnam lost nearly million dead to US bombs and guns. That is more dead then any Muslim country has lost in the last 70 years. In other words Vietnam is the single biggest victim of US military power than any other country since WW2.

On the other hand Vietnam killed nearly 60,000 American military personnel. More Americans have died at the hands of Vietnamese then in any other war since WW2. If you count every American killed by every single Muslim country since WW2 the number is still 10 times less.

This means Vietnanese fought like lions and killed Americans on epic scale and the defeated them. No Muslim country has done this damage or fought so well or defeated the USA like Vietname did.

Although the other side of coin is Americans killed million Vietnames. By this measure the Vietnamese would be entitled to nurse the biggest hatred for America then any other. On the American side with 60,000 lost I could understand if America despised the Vietnames.

But why is it today the Vietnamese are such good friends with Americans who in turn also have a soft spot for Vietnam. Contrast this to the hate you see by many Pakistani's against USA when there is no historty of bloodbath like Viet/USA war.

This is not unusual.

Throughout history neighboring countries tends to fight each other because they are next to each other and compete for land. So neighboring countries develop into traditional enemies.

There is an ancient Chinese proverb. Make friends from far and attack the near.

During the warring states period. There was a 6 state alliances against Qin. But Qin managed to convince the state of Qi not to support the alliance. Qi was the furthest state from Qin and did not have any dispute territories with Qin. After Qin defected the other 5 states, Qi surrendered without a fight.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Not sure what you are talking about. We were brought in by the South Vietnamese government to repel the North funded VietCong.

Haha. Then u'd better listen what Martin Luther King said again. If u still refuse to admit that US supported France to re conquest VN again,then its your own delusion, no one care, we still got support from the Black like Luther King, Obama etc.

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They must see Americans as strange liberators. The Vietnamese people proclaimed their own independence in 1954—in 1945 rather—after a combined French and Japanese occupation and before the communist revolution in China. They were led by Ho Chi Minh. Even though they quoted the American Declaration of Independence in their own document of freedom, we refused to recognize them. Instead, we decided to support France in its reconquest of her former colony. Our government felt then that the Vietnamese people were not ready for independence, and we again fell victim to the deadly Western arrogance that has poisoned the international atmosphere for so long. With that tragic decision we rejected a revolutionary government seeking self-determination and a government that had been established not by China—for whom the Vietnamese have no great love—but by clearly indigenous forces that included some communists. For the peasants this new government meant real land reform, one of the most important needs in their lives.

For nine years following 1945 we denied the people of Vietnam the right of independence. For nine years we vigorously supported the French in their abortive effort to recolonize Vietnam. Before the end of the war we were meeting eighty percent of the French war costs. Even before the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu, they began to despair of their reckless action, but we did not. We encouraged them with our huge financial and military supplies to continue the war even after they had lost the will. Soon we would be paying almost the full costs of this tragic attempt at recolonization.

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You said only whites want to make trouble for Vietnam and that’s not true, because I’m white, and I have nothing against Vietnam.

You of all people know this, Being that I’m friendly with Vietnamese people here on PDF.

I can’t speak about the Vietnam war because I didn’t exist at that time.

Wow, actually I thought u are Indian/Black American bcs u r very friendly to us

Hope to have more friendly white American like u,bro. VN is just a small, peace loving nation wt millions hard working people, we make No harm to the others

 

[Iltutmish]

You are "threat" ?? Dude, u guys cant even make a simple 3G phones till now, u are Joke instead

Don’t get me started about the stuff Western tourists do in your country . South East Asians are famous for these things. So take your 5 USD you earned and buy some dignity with it.

According to white masters:

Asians: weak fortune cookie selling domesticated „Yes Sir, of course Sir, ASAP Sir“ people with no love for their own culture

Muslims OTOH have some dignity left and have this Slave mindset. Am I allowed to call you Engin? Ngyuen is too complicated for me!