Why?

[Dalit]

Im not taunting, even Russia who has much greater defence industry than u still can't make 3G phones and export for money now.

Phone, car are very competitive market, very hard to survive, even LG also just decide to stop manufacturing smartphones.

That's why, if u really can make good smart phones and export well, then u are true threat, u will be even better than LG ,Sony in making phones.

You are living in fantasyland. Compare Vietnamese defence industry versus Pakistani defence industry. Don't bring Russia into this. Like I said, you are jumping all over the place. Just because nations aren't producing smartphones doesn't mean they cannot. Their priorities are different. They don't want to reinvent the wheel or make the investment to setup production assemblies. Producing smartphones isn't rocket science as you are claiming.

Just to set the record straight, both Russia and Pakistan could easily produce smartphones if they really wanted to. Producing smartphones isn't terribly complicated.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Just to set the record straight, both Russia and Pakistan could easily produce smartphones if they really wanted to. Producing smartphones isn't terribly complicated.

Okay, but your phones can't export for money because no one buy, people don't even buy LG phones, what make u think that u can make better phones than LG ?

When u can't make good phones, cars,laptops and export for money. U will collapse even when your defence industry is as great as Soviet, Lybia, Syria etc.

Btw, if u still think u are threat, then ok Im out. I already help your countrymen understand why we don't hate American. Bcs we got support from millions black Americans like Luther King, like Muhammad Ali, like Obama , we have no reason to hate them.

 

[Dalit]

Okay, but your phones can't export for money because no one buy, people don't even buy LG phones, what make u think that u can make better phones than LG ?

When u can't make good phones, cars,laptops and export for money. U will collapse even when your defence industry is as great as Soviet, Lybia, Syria etc.

Btw, if u still think u are threat, then ok Im out. I already help your countrymen understand why we don't hate American. Bcs we got support from millions black Americans like Luther King, like Muhammad Ali, like Obama , we have no reason to hate them.

Just don't quote me anymore. I am done with you.

 

[Paul2]

There is no version of leninism where collective ownership and abolition of private property was compromised on. Plus, the Bourgeoise that lenin declared as the enemy of the revolution are heroes of capitalist society. You can't reconcile these no matter how much you spin it.

Trotzkism?

 

[Viva_Viet]

We have no problem with China having business interests anywhere with anyone. Don't you get it? We're not China's mother telling them who to date or not date. We just like them because they deal with us on a merit basis, not a complete western bullshitt "we're morally better than you so you must listen to us while we kill your people" basis.

I just show that CN is not only on your side, CN investors side with everyone as long as they can make profit. Many people like them, including Vnese, bcs they pay our workers well (Luxxshare, CN auto part supplers pay us from 350 to 430 USd per month).

CN investors pay us well, they may pay our workers much higher than Pak workers in Xiaomi factories, they also respect our workers, but its doesnt mean Vnese will say :"CN is on our side", they simply side with No one but money.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

This Vietnamese fool is like the rest of our delusional Pakistani members on this forum. Who needs enemies when we have our own clapping for this fool. Just have a good look at this topic. Those that are cheerleading for these Indian and Vietnamese fools.

It is the age old trick. Start ranting against China and get the cheerleaders along with you.


Your Vietnamese friend was taunting Pakistan over a 3G phone. I told him that Pakistan has a defence industry which is far more complex than a smartphone industry. If he is doubting that Pakistan cannot produce a 3G phone he needs a reality check. Just because we haven't made an effort to produce a 3G phone doesn't mean we cannot.

Now you come along with your own BS. First, importing something versus indigenous production are two different things. LOL at secret shipment of Brahmos. Did you parcel the Brahmos yourself? Do you even notice how delusional and desperate you sound? In order to flex muscles you are now making up stuff. Even if we believed your secret BS, what is so great about acquiring missiles from another nation? You didn't even understand my point to begin with.

I think there is scope for rapprochement with and dignified dealings with USA. The general notion of merit based association with any nation (except India) is within reach, however, at this point in time and with the Biden administration specifically, we must be on guard and keep them at arm's length. They are trying to corner Pakistan and we've figured it out. Americans as a people though can be reasonable and reasoned with.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Please open a separate thread for this discussion. Would join you there.

Naah let it be..would be hard to kickstart the discussion in a new thread....it was a free flowing conversation in the context of this thread

 

[Bengal71]

There is a general hatred among Muslims of all national backgrounds towards anybody who commits injustice to Muslims anywhere in the world. It's not exclusive to Pakistanis.

There is also a general desire among Muslims of all national backgrounds to get the favor and friendship of the most powerful of the time.

For other Muslim nations, only the first one applies. For Pakistanis both apply, hence the Pakistanis hate the Americans more than other Muslims.

 

[siegecrossbow]

LOL like I said, let your Vietnam produce one cruise or ballistic missile. Heck let them produce one tank or trainer jet. You may come back with your 3G smartphone taunt. Until then just remain in your own section fool.

Their smartphone.

Love how they always accuse the Chinese of copying when they made a literal clone of a low end Chinese phone.

 

[lonelyman]

Here is a interesting fact. Vietnam lost nearly million dead to US bombs and guns. That is more dead then any Muslim country has lost in the last 70 years. In other words Vietnam is the single biggest victim of US military power than any other country since WW2.

On the other hand Vietnam killed nearly 60,000 American military personnel. More Americans have died at the hands of Vietnamese then in any other war since WW2. If you count every American killed by every single Muslim country since WW2 the number is still 10 times less.

This means Vietnanese fought like lions and killed Americans on epic scale and the defeated them. No Muslim country has done this damage or fought so well or defeated the USA like Vietname did.

Although the other side of coin is Americans killed million Vietnames. By this measure the Vietnamese would be entitled to nurse the biggest hatred for America then any other. On the American side with 60,000 lost I could understand if America despised the Vietnames.

But why is it today the Vietnamese are such good friends with Americans who in turn also have a soft spot for Vietnam. Contrast this to the hate you see by many Pakistani's against USA when there is no historty of bloodbath like Viet/USA war.

Both Soviets and China fully backed Vietnam's war against USA for geopolitical reasons at that time, without this support, Vietnam would never won.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Here is a interesting fact. Vietnam lost nearly million dead to US bombs and guns. That is more dead then any Muslim country has lost in the last 70 years. In other words Vietnam is the single biggest victim of US military power than any other country since WW2.

On the other hand Vietnam killed nearly 60,000 American military personnel. More Americans have died at the hands of Vietnamese then in any other war since WW2. If you count every American killed by every single Muslim country since WW2 the number is still 10 times less.

This means Vietnanese fought like lions and killed Americans on epic scale and the defeated them. No Muslim country has done this damage or fought so well or defeated the USA like Vietname did.

Although the other side of coin is Americans killed million Vietnames. By this measure the Vietnamese would be entitled to nurse the biggest hatred for America then any other. On the American side with 60,000 lost I could understand if America despised the Vietnames.

But why is it today the Vietnamese are such good friends with Americans who in turn also have a soft spot for Vietnam. Contrast this to the hate you see by many Pakistani's against USA when there is no historty of bloodbath like Viet/USA war.

That is the power of PSYOP used by USA and her allies since WW2.

Disinformation and propaganda.

imagine using a image of real prison in Xinjiang to mislead the viewer and read that it is a Uyghur Concentration Torture Camp.

So one has to learn to be smart and don't believe everything one read esp. from the USA or the West.