Why?

[Viva_Viet]

I think we should all stop pretending. Socialism does not work. We've suffered enough. We have liberalized and moving forward.

U said that Just bcs u don't even wanna read Lenin new economy policy ( NEP) . U just want people keep thinking that your choice is the best. If u keep denying the advantage of NEP, then u never can make 5G equipments .

U should ask yourself why only VN and CN can make 5G equipments now while even EU, JP,SK still can not.

 

[Dalit]

CN is on your side ?? My friend, CN investors only care abt making profit like any investors in the World. CN investors are not even on CN side, they only want money. That's why CN Gov't has to punish Alibaba, Tencent etc now.

Stop deluding yourself. No one in your side if u can't help them get enough money. That's why Xiaomi is in India instead of Pakistan now bcs India market is much bigger than Pak.

You have no clue. China and Pakistan share a border. We are bound geographically. Sure China has its interests, but so did the USA. A country on the other side of the ocean that actually exploited Pakistan wrongfully. Pakistanis would choose China all day long over US/Western nations.

China won't exploit Pakistan like the US did. China and Pakistan relations are based on mutual interest. They have to be because this is not a transactional nor a temporary relationship. China won't dump Pakistan like the US did.

Who said Xiaomi isn't inside Pakistan?

50 Billion Dollars worth of infra projects cannot even start to make a dent in a country like Pakistan...Heck even 500 Billion dolars worth of Infra may not be enough....Pakistanis themselves have admitted, being a transit point can make a city state extremely advanced, but cannot make a huge nation extremely advanced




on top of that the trade between Pakistan and China is 90 percent tilted in favour of China


According to the same source, from January to December 2020, China’s imports from Pakistan stood at $2.12 billion whereas China’s exports to Pakistan were recorded at $15.36 billion.

Pakistan-China relations: Increasing bilateral trade | Special Report | thenews.com.pk

Pakistan and China have been historical trade partners with the balance of trade overwhelmingly in the favour of the latter

www.thenews.com.pk

Hahahaha if China really cared about Pakistan it would have set up manufacturing units in Pakistan to export back to China

You think that China isn't going to make manufacturing hubs inside Pakistan? You are mistaken. Eventually this is going to happen. First things first. Let CPEC advance and complete.

Pakistan and China are already cooperating in finding the the right sectors to increase export to China. Just because the tilt is in Chinese favor doesn't mean this is China's fault. Pakistan has never been an exporting nation except a few sectors. Previous Pakistani governments never made trade a priority. You cannot blame China for the shortcomings and inabilities of Pakistan.

Singapore is a great example of a successful transit point. Don't lecture us on things you have zero understanding. You are the same guy who was ranting about China having more trade with Pakistan through sea as opposed to land. You lie through your teeth. Pak strength lies in exploiting its geographic potential. China will help Pakistan realise its potential in other areas too. It won't happen overnight.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Who said Xiaomi isn't inside Pakistan?

Yeah, then show me Xiaomi factories in Pak,pls and can Pak export Xiaomi phones ?

 

[Dalit]

Yeah, then show me Xiaomi factories in Pak,pls and can Pak export Xiaomi phones ?

There is already a Chinese phone manufacturing assembly in Pakistan.

Vivo – Chinese phonemaker to set up manufacturing plant in Pakistan

FAISALABAD – The Chinese smartphone company Vivo will invest $10 million in Pakistan for building a production facility at the M3 Industrial Estate in the

en.dailypakistan.com.pk

Now you tell me what the US and Europe can offer to Pakistan? Accusations, vilification, drone strikes, murder of Pakistanis and more accusations.

 

[Viva_Viet]

There is already a Chinese phone manufacturing assembly in Pakistan.

Vivo – Chinese phonemaker to set up manufacturing plant in Pakistan

FAISALABAD – The Chinese smartphone company Vivo will invest $10 million in Pakistan for building a production facility at the M3 Industrial Estate in the

en.dailypakistan.com.pk

Now you tell me what the US and Europe can offer to Pakistan? Accusations, vilification, drone strikes, murder of Pakistanis and more accusations.

U said "Pakistan has China on its side", okay, but its just Half of the Truth because CN is also on India's side when Xiaomi factories are also there.

CN even invited India to join RCEP while Pak was not invited. CN only care abt her own interest, don't delude yourself that CN is only on your side.

 

[Dalit]

U said "Pakistan has China on its side", okay, but its just Half of the Truth because CN is also on India's side when Xiaomi factories are also there.

CN even invited India to join RCEP while Pak was not invited. CN only care abt her own interest, don't delude yourself that CN is only on your side.

Stop ranting like a chicken without a head. You asked for a Chinese manufacturing plant inside Pakistan. I provided you with an example. Now your rear is on fire.

LOL you are going all over the place now. It started with Pakistan can't even produce a 3G phone and Pakistan is a complete joke. Pakistan is a nuclear power that produces cruise missiles, tanks and fighter jets. LOL at a 3G phone.

China also invested 80 billion dollars in CPEC. Gave Pakistan roads, deep sea port, infrastructure, wind mills, nuke reactors and so much more. The only deluded and envious person here is you. When your daddy USA can provide just 10% of what China is giving to Pakistan you can try to be cocky. LOL at RCEP. Like we care one bit.

Now let me give you some candid advice. Stop lecturing Pakistan on their internal affairs. You foreigners are burning with anti-China rage. We don't need your lectures on why China is good or bad for Pakistan. We can make that decision as a sovereign nation by ourselves.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

U said that Just bcs u don't even wanna read Lenin new economy policy ( NEP) . U just want people keep thinking that your choice is the best. If u keep denying the advantage of NEP, then u never can make 5G equipments .

U should ask yourself why only VN and CN can make 5G equipments now while even EU, JP,SK still can not.

There is no version of leninism where collective ownership and abolition of private property was compromised on. Plus, the Bourgeoise that lenin declared as the enemy of the revolution are heroes of capitalist society. You can't reconcile these no matter how much you spin it.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Stop ranting like a chicken without a head. You asked for a Chinese manufacturing plant inside Pakistan. I provided you with an example. Now your rear is on fire.

LOL you are going all over the place now. It started with Pakistan can't even produce a 3G phone and Pakistan is a complete joke. Pakistan is a nuclear power that produces cruise missiles, tanks and fighter jets. LOL at a 3G phone.

China also invested 80 billion dollars in CPEC. Gave Pakistan roads, deep sea port, infrastructure, wind mills, nuke reactors and so much more. The only deluded and envious person here is youm

Now let me give you some candid advice. Stop lecturing Pakistan on their internal affairs. You foreigners are burning with anti-China rage. We don't need your lectures on why China is good or bad for Pakistan. We can make that decision as a sovereign nation by ourselves.

U are funny, this thread is opened by Pakistan member who wanna know why Vnese dont hate American who killed millions Vnese during war. We just help him find out why...and now, u came and tell us "stop ranting, stop lecturing blah blah ..." ????

Its true that u guys still can't even make your own 3G phone and export for money till now..or u think Xiaomi is Pak's phone ? U import all Xiaomi components and just assembly it till now.

 

[Dalit]

U are funny, this thread is opened by Pakistan member who wanna know why Vnese dont hate American who killed millions Vnese during war. We just help him find out why...and now, u came and tell us "stop ranting, stop lecturing blah blah ..." ????

Its true that u guys still can't even make your own 3G phone and export for money till now..or u think Xiaomi is Pak's phone ?

You are just the typical anti-China Vietnamese. We have dozens like you on this forum. We know your mindset.

Why are you even ranting like a fool in a topic that doesn't concern you. You are picking fights with everyone. Trying to prove how superior you are. You know nothing about Pakistan. Just stay in your own section.

You think Pakistan cannot produce smartphones? Pakistan is a country that has a defence industry that produces far more complex defence products. When Vietnam has half the defence industry of Pakistan you may get cocky. Why would we waste our time on producing smartphones when China has already invested in a manufacturing plant? Why would we want to reinvent the wheel when smartphones can be readily imported?

LOL at China is bad for Pakistan. Joker.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

U said "Pakistan has China on its side", okay, but its just Half of the Truth because CN is also on India's side when Xiaomi factories are also there.

CN even invited India to join RCEP while Pak was not invited. CN only care abt her own interest, don't delude yourself that CN is only on your side.

We have no problem with China having business interests anywhere with anyone. Don't you get it? We're not China's mother telling them who to date or not date. We just like them because they deal with us on a merit basis, not a complete western bullshitt "we're morally better than you so you must listen to us while we kill your people" basis.

 

[Viva_Viet]

You are just the typical anti-China Vietnamese. We have dozens like you on this forum. We know your mindset.

Why are you even ranting like a fool in a topic that doesn't concern you. You are picking fights with everyone. Trying to prove how superior you are. You know nothing about Pakistan. Just stay in your own section.

You think Pakistan cannot produce smartphones? Pakistan is a country that has a defence industry that produces far more complex defence products. Why would we waste our time on producing smartphones when China has already invested in a manufacturing plant?

I just feel funny when some of u believe that u are the "threat " when actually u guys still can't make a simple 3G phone ( even with Great help, 80 billions usd, from CN) and export for money till now.

If u still convincing that u are a "threat", then ok, I have Nothing else to say, enjoy tobe a "threat "

 

[Dalit]

I just feel funny when some of u believe that u are the "threat " when actually u guys still can't make a simple 3G phone ( even with Great help, 80 billions usd, from CN) and export for money till now.

If u still convincing that u are a "threat", then ok, I have Nothing else to say, enjoy tobe a "threat "

LOL like I said, let your Vietnam produce one cruise or ballistic missile. Heck let them produce one tank or trainer jet. You may come back with your 3G smartphone taunt. Until then just remain in your own section fool.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

We have no problem with China having business interests anywhere with anyone. Don't you get it? We're not China's mother telling them who to date or not date. We just like them because they deal with us on a merit basis, not a complete western bullshitt "we're morally better than you so you must listen to us while we kill your people" basis.

But they're definitely behaving like your daddy...dicatting you to take loans from them that are unviable and extracting the money from you.

LOL like I said, let your Vietnam produce one cruise or ballistic missile. Heck let them produce one tank or trainer jet. You may come back with your 3G smartphone taunt. Until then just remain in your own section fool.

They've got secret shipments of Brahmos from India. So they do have cruise missiles. And 3G factories too.

 

[Dalit]

We have no problem with China having business interests anywhere with anyone. Don't you get it? We're not China's mother telling them who to date or not date. We just like them because they deal with us on a merit basis, not a complete western bullshitt "we're morally better than you so you must listen to us while we kill your people" basis.

This Vietnamese fool is like the rest of our delusional Pakistani members on this forum. Who needs enemies when we have our own clapping for this fool. Just have a good look at this topic. Those that are cheerleading for these Indian and Vietnamese fools.

It is the age old trick. Start ranting against China and get the cheerleaders along with you.

But they're definitely behaving like your daddy...dicatting you to take loans from them that are unviable and extracting the money from you.


They've got secret shipments of Brahmos from India. So they do have cruise missiles. And 3G factories too.

Your Vietnamese friend was taunting Pakistan over a 3G phone. I told him that Pakistan has a defence industry which is far more complex than a smartphone industry. If he is doubting that Pakistan cannot produce a 3G phone he needs a reality check. Just because we haven't made an effort to produce a 3G phone doesn't mean we cannot.

Now you come along with your own BS. First, importing something versus indigenous production are two different things. LOL at secret shipment of Brahmos. Did you parcel the Brahmos yourself? Do you even notice how delusional and desperate you sound? In order to flex muscles you are now making up stuff. Even if we believed your secret BS, what is so great about acquiring missiles from another nation? You didn't even understand my point to begin with.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Your Vietnamese friend was taunting Pakistan over a 3G phone. I told him that Pakistan has a defence industry which is far more complex than a smartphone industry. If he is doubting that Pakistan cannot produce a 3G phone he needs a reality check. Just because we haven't made an effort to produce a 3G phone doesn't mean we cannot.

Im not taunting, even Russia who has much greater defence industry than u still can't make 3G phones and export for money now.

Phone, car are very competitive market, very hard to survive, even LG also just decide to stop manufacturing smartphones.

That's why, if u really can make good smart phones and export well, then u are true threat, u will be even better than LG ,Sony in making phones. East Asia will bow down to u as they bow down to US.