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Why West fears theft of our nuclear assets

All this is just a propaganda, just to intimidate Pakistan but it won't work bcz we will never compromise on our nuclear assests.

rather to question about our assests go and wacth what's happening in India, one of your terrorists movements killed security guards at a nuclear facility and steel uranium and sell it to don't know who!....i saw that on youtube and the reporting was made by one of your own news channel....and if i'm not wrong few time ago nuclear scientist was also disapier and found dead after few days.

We can do what ever we want with our assets, if A.K. Khan sold something to Iran then their is no serious concerns about it, Iran is our friend. Anyway why the world dosen't raise a voice against Israel? they have far more nuclear assests and they are a serious danger for the world peace. They even didn't show them to anyone and deter them illegally. who gave them all those assets? maybe U.S.?.....

Our assets are in safe hands and if someday they will be used then it's us who will use them not any illetrate taliban or any other terrorist organization!

So you indians might stop writing your BS comments bcz we don't care about them. It's not you people who we have to satisfy on any concern...just go and lookafter your assets first.:sick:
 
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Well I dont blame them. Your most respected national hero scientist turned out to be an illegal nuclear smuggler. Who knows how many others are involved? What if he would have sold them to Osama and his crazy gand?
How about illegal nuclear black market of india? can they not sell any thing to OBL? why don't you crack down the same way we did?
Who is kidnapping indian nuclear scientists? ever bothered?

because your national hero is a nuclear proliferation expert and is wanted internationally
what do you mean by internationaly? US once requested to have access for interogation which was refused by govt. of Pakistan.

Was I wrong? Then why was he pardoned by Musharraf? Was he pardoned for something he didn't even do?
No he was not pardoned! he got sacked and convicted for his act.

Plz dont yell at indians over this.
Its unfortunate, but Khan operted a nuclar blackmarket...
1. Was reported by US.
2. Agreed by Musharraf
3. Accepted by khan himself on live TV.

truth is bitter, yet true.
YOu are right but how about taste of indian truth? will it not be bitter if i post few links here?

How can he be? you guys have a long history of keeping the internationally wanted people under protection in the name of house arrest ranging from hafeez saeed to mr khan
Please... don't bring Hafiz saeed in this discussion... as i said, US is not demanding khan any more and is a case closed.

He is not wanted for making the bomb but for proliferating nuclear technology to N Korea and Iran..I dont however disagree with your sentiments for him. THe sad part is that under US pressure, Pakistan abandoned one of their best who did all he did for his country.
YOu missed india and libyia....
What he did was... he supplied blue prints of Pakistani centrifuges..... and organised manufacturing of critical parts from international market.... including European states.... and no company or individuals involved were ever convicted by respective states... so if those who were at the heart of the operation are not wanted internationally than why exclusively Khan?
Khan helped in begining of development of KRL but development of bomb or technology was collective effort of many scientists. He got rewarded for his respects.
It is not in our interest to abondon him....... so please refrain from non-sense.
 
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Threats To Pakistan’s Strategic Nuclear Assets

Indian explosion of its nuclear device in 1974 drew only a customary “show of concern” from the Western powers. But Pakistan’s nuclear program, initiated in response to the Indian acquisition of nuclear weapons, evoked immediate and “serious concern” from the same quarters. Ever since, Pakistan has been under immense pressure to scrap its program while the Indians remain uncensored.

That Western discriminatory attitude can also be seen by the religious color it gave to Pakistan’s bomb by calling it an ‘Islamic bomb’. One has never heard of the Israeli bomb being called a ‘Jewish Bomb’, or the Indian bomb a ‘Hindu Bomb’, or the American and British bomb a ‘Christian Bomb’ or the Soviet bomb a ‘Communist’ (or an ‘Atheist) Bomb’. The West simply used Pakistan’s bomb to make Islam synonymous with aggression and make its nuclear program a legitimate target, knowing full well that it merely served a defensive purpose and was not even remotely associated with Islam.

With India going nuclear soon after playing a crucial role in dismembering Pakistan in 1971 and enjoying an overwhelming conventional military superiority over Pakistan in the ratio of 4:1, a resource strapped Pakistan was pushed to the wall. Left with no other choice but to develop a nuclear deterrent to ward off future Indian threats, Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto declared: “Pakistanis will eat grass but make a nuclear bomb”. And sure enough, they did it. Soon, however, both he and the nuclear program were to become non-grata. Amid intense pressure, sanctions and vilification campaign, Henry Kissinger personally delivered to a defiant Bhutto the American threat: “give up your nuclear program or else we will make a horrible example of you’.
And a horrible example was made of Bhutto for his defiance. But he had enabled Pakistan to become the 7th nuclear power in the world. This served Pakistan well. India was kept at bay despite temptations for military adventurism. Although there has never been real peace in South Asia, at least there has been no war since 1971.

Ignoring its security perspective, Pakistan’s Western ‘friends’ refused to admit it to their exclusive nuclear club, though expediency made them ignore its ‘crime’ when it suited their purpose. But driven by identical geo-strategic interests in their respective regions and seeing Pakistan as an obstacle to their designs, Israel and India missed no opportunity to malign or subvert Pakistan’s program.

Due to its defiance of Indian diktat, Pakistan is for India an obstruction in its quest for domination of South Asia and the Indian Ocean region. Israel’s apprehension of Pakistan’s military prowess is rooted in the strength Pakistan indirectly provides to Arab states with whom Israel has remained in a state of conflict. Conscious that several Arab states look up to Pakistan for military support in the event of threat to their security from Israel, it is unsettling for Israel to see a nuclear armed Pakistan.

Israel can also not overlook the fact that Pakistan’s military is a match to its own. The PAF pilots surprised Israeli Air Force, when flying mostly Russian aircraft they shot down several relatively superior Israeli aircraft in air combat in the 1973 Arab Israel war, shattering the invincibility myth of Israeli pilots who believed themselves to be too superior in skill and technology. The Pakistanis happened to be assigned to Jordanian, Syrian and Iraqi air forces on training missions when the war broke out and, unknown to the Israelis then, they incognito undertook combat missions.

After successfully destroying Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, Israelis planned a similar attack on Pakistan’s nuclear facilities at Kahuta in collusion with India in the 1980s. Using satellite pictures and intelligence information, Israel reportedly built a full-scale mock-up of Kahuta facility in the Negev Desert where pilots of F-16 and F-15 squadrons practiced mock attacks.

According to ‘The Asian Age’, London, journalists Adrian Levy and Catherine Scott-Clark stated in their book ‘Deception: Pakistan, the US and the Global Weapons Conspiracy’, that Israeli Air Force was to launch air attack on Kahuta in mid 1980s from Jamnagar airfield in Gujarat (India). The book claims that “in March 1984, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi signed off (on) the Israeli-led operation bringing India, Pakistan and Israel to within a hairs breadth of a nuclear conflagration”.

Another report claims that Israel also planned an air strike directly out of Israel. After midway and midair refueling, Israeli warplanes planned to shoot down a commercial airline’s flight over Indian Ocean that flew into Islamabad early morning, fly in a tight formation to appear as one large aircraft on radar screens preventing detection, use the drowned airliner’s call sign to enter Islamabad’s air space, knock out Kahuta and fly out to Jammu to refuel and exit.

According to reliable reports in mid 1980s this mission was actually launched one night. But the Israelis were in for a big surprise. They discovered that Pakistan Air Force had already sounded an alert and had taken to the skies in anticipation of this attack. The mission had to be hurriedly aborted.

Pakistan reminded the Israelis that Pakistan was no Iraq and that PAF was no Iraqi Air Force. Pakistan is reported to have conveyed that an attack on Kahuta would force Pakistan to lay waste to Dimona, Israel’s nuclear reactor in the Negev Desert. India was also warned that Islamabad would attack Trombay if Kahuta facilities were hit.

The above quoted book claims that “Prime Minister Indira Gandhi eventually aborted the operation despite protests from military planners in New Delhi and Jerusalem.”

McNair’s paper #41 published by USAF Air University (India Thwarts Israeli Destruction of Pakistan’s “Islamic Bomb”) also confirmed this plan. It said, “Israeli interest in destroying Pakistan’s Kahuta reactor to scuttle the “Islamic bomb” was blocked by India’s refusal to grant landing and refueling rights to Israeli warplanes in 1982.” Clearly India wanted to see Kahuta gone but did not want to face retaliation at the hands of the PAF. Israel, on its part wanted this to be a joint Indo-Israeli strike to avoid being solely held responsible.

The Reagan administration also hesitated to support the plan because Pakistan’s distraction at that juncture would have hurt American interests in Afghanistan, when Pakistan was steering the Afghan resistance against the Soviets.
Although plans to hit Kahuta were shelved, the diatribe against Pakistan’s nuclear program continued unabated. Israel used its control over the American political establishment and western media to create hysteria. India worked extensively to promote paranoia, branding Pakistan’s program as unsafe, insecure and a threat to peace. The fact is otherwise. It is technically sounder, safer and more secure than that of India and has ensured absence of war in the region.

The US invasion of Afghanistan provided another opening for Indo-Israeli nexus to target Pakistan’s strategic assets. This time the strategy was to present Pakistan as an unstable state, incapable of defending itself against religious extremist insurgents, creating the specter of Islamabad and its nuclear assets falling in their hands. Suggestions are being floated that Pakistan being at risk of succumbing to extremists, its nuclear assets should be disabled, seized or forcibly taken out by the US. Alternatively, an international agency should take them over for safe keeping.
Pakistan has determinedly thwarted the terrorist threat and foiled this grand conspiracy. The terrorists have either been eliminated or are on the run. Pakistan has made it clear that it would act decisively against any attempt by any quarter to harm its nuclear assets. But if the game is taken to the next level, the consequences would be disastrous for the region.

The Indo-Israeli nexus is losing initiative. But as long as the American umbrella is available Afghanistan will remain a playground for mischief mongers. It is now up to the US to walk its talk and prove its claim that it wants to see a secure and stable Pakistan. It must pull the plug on conspiracies to destabilize Pakistan.
 
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Well I dont blame them. Your most respected national hero scientist turned out to be an illegal nuclear smuggler. Who knows how many others are involved? What if he would have sold them to Osama and his crazy gand?

As I understand you are very worried about proliferation, but do you have any idea which countries proliferated this technology to Israel (a grand sponsor of state terrorism against the Palestinians) ? Was it the Pakistani national hero or some British national hero? Perhaps you should also find that out for us, in that case we can be certain about your sincerity as far as nuclear proliferation is concerned.
 
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YOu missed india and libyia....
What he did was... he supplied blue prints of Pakistani centrifuges..... and organised manufacturing of critical parts from international market.... including European states.... and no company or individuals involved were ever convicted by respective states... so if those who were at the heart of the operation are not wanted internationally than why exclusively Khan?
Khan helped in begining of development of KRL but development of bomb or technology was collective effort of many scientists. He got rewarded for his respects.
It is not in our interest to abondon him....... so please refrain from non-sense.

Are you saying he sold Nuclear designs to India??:azn:

Anyway, it seems you did'nt understand my comment on the sad part. I was actually agreeing with you folks that whatever he did was for the interest of Pakistan and he shouldn't have been convicted and sacked
 
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“Irrespective of how safe Pakistan’s nuclear weapons may be, the West would continue to berate them.” there is a 'myopia' against a islamic nation possessing nukes!

That says it all.

Many countries had their nuclear material things misplaced, stolen but no such phobia shown the way it is done with regard to Pakistan.

These countries are more worried about Pakistan rather then controlling their own western manufacturers who are supplying others the nuclear technology.
 
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Are you saying he sold Nuclear designs to India??:azn:

Anyway, it seems you did'nt understand my comment on the sad part. I was actually agreeing with you folks that whatever he did was for the interest of Pakistan and he shouldn't have been convicted and sacked

karan - that is the issue - IMO he did not safeguard Pakistan's interests by doing whatever he did and that is why this thread is 'going-on' back-and-forth in a indo/pak 'bitching match'
 
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The west is coordinating brilliant offensive on our nuke program. To counter this, Pakistan must covertly challenge the status of Israeli nukes and bring this issue in public limelight. Also we must foment terrorism in countries who are doing the same to us. Unrest in Israel and India is the demand and need of the hour.
 
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We must not always be on receiving end of prodding stick. The real problem is Pakistan is too soft, chasing some BS dreams of democracy and overlooking basics of defending a nation. We are in big trouble if we don't start hitting back like a superpower in the making. Indian hand in making big issue of Pakistani nukes is clear and apparent. U.S. hand is also apparent as well as Israel. It is time to get non state actors and make a mess of these countries.
 
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That says it all.

Many countries had their nuclear material things misplaced, stolen but no such phobia shown the way it is done with regard to Pakistan.

These countries are more worried about Pakistan rather then controlling their own western manufacturers who are supplying others the nuclear technology.

Guys, let me just post a few observations and opinions of mine:

I think the reason US and India are so afraid of Pak nukes is because of all the nations in the world that have nukes, Pak is the one that seems most likely to use them.

Every time Indo-Pak tensions rise, its always Pakistan who talk of 'conflict going nuclear'. You don't ever see nukes being raised in an Sino-Indian scenario, and even though India is the militarily smaller nation, India has never threatened China with nukes or vice versa. Sure we tested missiles capable of reaching China, but that is as a deterrent against Chinese nukes, not as a first-strike option.

And its not just the pak politicians. Just look at the posts in this very forum. There are so many Pakistanis who talk of nuclear conflict and about nuking India over water issues. You don't see Indians talking of nuking Pakistan, unless it is about second strike.

Now I know that posts on this forum are not to be taken as the mindset of all Pakistanis, but it does give an indication of the mindset of some.

what everyone fears most is Pakistan's obsession with its nukes. Every time tensions rise, many Pakistanis talk of nuclear war against India (and sometimes Israel). Its almost as if pakistan cares more about nuking its enemies than about survival. Its as if they are still not aware of the repercussions of nuclear war.

The world would be much less concerned about Pakistan's nukes if Pakistani politicians and Pakistani military don't keep nuclear war as a viable option.
 
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I think the reason US and India are so afraid of Pak nukes is because of all the nations in the world that have nukes, Pak is the one that seems most likely to use them.

really - the record shows that the US is the only country to drop not 1 but 2 atom bombs on another country (and the US Supreme Commander Gen DDEisenhower was against it and was 'over-ruled).......and India was the first to 'introduce' nukes on the sub-continent in 1974 with its 'peaceful' (sic) nuclear test.
 
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I think the reason US and India are so afraid of Pak nukes is because of all the nations in the world that have nukes, Pak is the one that seems most likely to use them.

really - the record shows that the US is the only country to drop not 1 but 2 atom bombs on another country (and the US Supreme Commander Gen DDEisenhower was against it and was 'over-ruled).......and India was the first to 'introduce' nukes on the sub-continent in 1974 with its 'peaceful' (sic) nuclear test.

I meant in the present scenario (post cold war period) fatman, not the past. if u look at the past, US and USSR were likely to use them in cold war. And they both had plans to neutralise as much of each other's nukes as possible.

And India did introduce nukes in 1974, a time when pak did not have them. we could have nuked pak without any nuclear retaliation. we would have been burdened with sanctions, but as a closed economy at the time we wouldn't have been too negatively affected. And no country would have come to war with us, since we had mutual defence pact with the USSR.

yet India never threatened to use nukes on pak. that shows our restraint with our nukes. but Pakistan threatens nuclear war even when India has nukes. So just imagine how bad things would have been if we didn't have them and pak did.
 
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