Why We Reject Indian Media SSP Mirpur Story?

[GumNaam]

I GOT IT, I FIGURED IT OUT...THEIR PLAN IS TO MAKE ALL THE ATANKVAADIS DIE OF LAUGHTER AT THIS SIRJEEKAL STRIKES COMEDY!

 

[graphican]

don't worry about Indian credibility. they have managed to push you guys down in the eyes of almost all countries by simply giving your generals some rope to hand themselves ! and then it is a simple matter of exposing that.

it is up to you to save your credibility ...

We are not worried, check out flavor of this forum, go check Pakistani media or discover twitter, you'll find there are celebrations in Pakistan and for good reasons. Pakistan is contented with what has happens and what is happening.

India on the other hand, within its own country is already divided. Non-BJP political parties will try to inflate this issue because this pulls the Modi down, and the show is worth watching.

Situation in Kashmir is still out of India's control. How long do you think world is going to give you a blind eye over curfews, killings and human right violations. While this is happening in parallel, India has exposed itself as the problem child of South Asia.

 

[Zee-shaun]

Because it is flawed and bogus. And why is it flawed is explained below:

The Indian media reports on Wednesday came up with some Indian journalist who talked to a SSP of AJK police in Mirpur presenting himself as his senior IG Mushtaq. During this conversation SSP Ghulam Akbar of AJK police intelligence branch manged to accept Indian claim of surgical strikes in AJK and also accepted casualties of "terrorists" in it.

There are however a few reasons and facts to deny and reject this "proof" of Indian media.

1. The biggest gap in this whole news report is that there is no IG Mushtaq in AJK police. The name of the IG of AJK police is Bashir Memon.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/103134-Bashir-Memon-appointed-AJK-IGP

2. There is however an IG with the name of Mushtaq in Pakistan. This is IG Mushtaq Sukhera who is IG of Punjab Police and not AJK police which is different.

3. IG Mushtaq Sukhera is IG of Punjab Police and hence has no relation with any event happening in AJK. So it obviously makes no sense that some SSP would talk about events happening at LOC to IG punjab who is neither superior to him nor he is answerable to him.

4. IG Mushtaq Sukhera is a Punjabi. Now if an Indian journalist would try to pose as IG Mushtaq Sukhera then it is nearly impossible that a SSP in AJK would fail to recognize him given hindi accent of the Indian journalist.

5. The Indian journalist posing as "IG Mushtaq" kept on using Hindi words like "Barhiya Barhiya" but a senior SSP of AJK police "intelligence" failed to catch his not so Punjabi accent. This looks to be improbable for a senior police officer like SSP.

6. There was however a SSP Ghulam Akbar in AJK police but that was around 5 years ago back in 2011. It is obvious that SSP Ghulam Akbar wouldn't be posted in the same rank and place even after 5 years.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/164250/ajk-postings-reshuffle-in-police-ehtesab-bureau/

7. As said in point 6 the SSP Ghulam Akbar is now posted in Muzaffarabad and not in Mirpur. A local journalist from Peshawar has confirmed that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/783728039813222400

8. So there is no IG Mushtaq in AJK police and no Ghulam Akbar in Mirpur.

Conclusion: I don't think it is difficult to decide with above facts that this "proof" by Indian media for supposed surgical strikes was nothing but a load of crap meant to deceive Indian nation. The purpose of this thread is to present all the facts about this "proof" in one thread so that whenever an Indian member comes up with this "proof" we would have the exact direct link to refute it.

Thank You.

@Tipu7 @Windjammer @Emmie @Bratva @Oscar @coffee_cup @shah1398 @Aviator23 @Mentee @Side-Winder @Zarvan @Major Sam @Dazzler @Arsalan

Great job bro, well written

 

[Zee-shaun]

Ye to baladkaar ho gaya

 

[vayuu1]

Remember it pako pm saying kripya vishwas rakhe, and the uproar regarding it, should have seen u r Defence analyst that muchad chasmish don't know his reaction on Ibn 7 debate, also the name ghulam akbar has been confirmed by ur reporter, man na na manna aapki marzi.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

We need solid proofs . not a story . nobody buy such crap

 

[Darth Vader]

Is there a audio recording or video recording for all this ?

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

Please also tell what are the things that have been accepted by Pakistan, actually you are stretching it to a point of no return which will make pressure on PA to take some action when the proof comes out in Public. The message by IA has been given with a hard punch and that message has reached its target audience.

 

[NHUDA]

hey Pak posters...I caution you to be very careful and not make total asses of yourselves. I do not know if this story is real or false but if a journalist actually did a phone interview it is likely that there is a recording.

May be You should have investigated a little about the issue before commenting .... thr INDEED is a Recording and thr is a Written Transcript Published by indian Media .... Go Hear it for yourself ... the Release of audio make it more laughable !

just listen to it ... it is Barhiya Barhiya .... ROFLOL

I mean the So called IG is asking him again and again in a way to confirm his OWN narrative of Sur-ji-Kal Strikes ... and after all the hulla Huppa .. he said AT THE END OF THE WHOLE CONVERSATION .. "Identify Your self and Name And Designation" ... What an Actual FCK !

Tum Log Bachpan say aisi ho ya School mein koi special course kartay hoo ????

https://twitter.com/x/status/783682289699917824

Additional Information having Concrete Evidence which put the whole interview in the Question !

and it is from an INDIAN site .... So sck on it !

http://www.catchnews.com/india-news...r-cop-doesn-t-add-up-1475694225.html/fullview

CNN-News18 claimed that Akbar confirmed "every single line that Indian Director-General of Military Operations, Lt General Ranbir Singh, had said in his press conference on 30 September, where he announced to the world that India had carried out surgical strikes into Azad Kashmir and destroyed terror launch pads".

Giving precise information, Akbar told the reporter posing as 'IG Mushtaq' that the raid was "roughly 3-4 hours... between 2 am and 4 or 5 am".

LOOSE ENDS

It is confirmed that there is indeed an officer of the SP rank named "Ghulam Akber" in the 'Azad' Jammu and Kashmir Police (not Pakistan Police as mentioned in the story). Even a quick internet search reveals news reports from 2011, when he was SSP in Mirpur. There is no confirmation of any 'IG Mushtaq' in the AJK Police.

However, the doubts here aren't because of nomenclature, but jurisdiction. Out of the four areas mentioned by Akbar, only one actually falls under his jurisdiction.

There are three administrative divisions in Azad Kashmir, or Azad Jammu and Kashmir as it is called there: Mirpur, Muzaffarabad and Poonch.


Out of the four areas mentioned by Akbar, only Samana in Bhimber falls under the Mirpur range, where he is posted.

Hazira is in the Poonch division, while Dudhniyal and Kayani are both in the Muzaffarabad division, and are, therefore, outside Akbar's jurisdiction.

Another place mentioned by Akbar is Athmuqam, where he says "no one reached". Even this lies in the Muzaffarabad division.

Therefore, it needs to be questioned whether Akbar is in a position to authoritatively speak on whether the raids took place in these areas or not, leave alone assert the exact timing of the raids.

Taking Akbar's version as gospel truth becomes even more difficult when one sees the distance of these locations from Mirpur, where Akbar is presumably based.

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Location: Dudhniyal
District: Neelam
Division: Muzaffarabad
Road distance from Mirpur: 466 km

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Location: Kayani
District: Hattian
Division: Muzaffarabad
Road distance from Mirpur: 245 km

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Location: Hazira
District: Poonch
Division: Poonch
Road distance from Mirpur: 112 km

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Location: Athmuqam
District: Neelam
Division: Muzaffarabad
Road distance from Mirpur: 342 km

"Mirpur is far away from these areas. Another important aspect is that whatever happened (the strikes) was on the LoC, not in the civilian area where the SP would have influence," an Indian expert familiar with the area told Catch.

It is only Samana in Bhimber district that falls under Akbar's jurisdiction as SP (Intelligence) in the Mirpur range. It is about 67 km from Mirpur.

But the problem here is that what Akbar is saying isn't very different from what the Pakistani Army has already admitted - that there was an attack in Bhimber and they suffered casualties.

Catch spoke to a number of security experts, who feel that Akbar's cannot be considered the final word on the matter.

"In the interview, the SP is not sure and he is being goaded into saying what Manoj Gupta (the interviewer) pretending to be his senior, wants him to say," said a security expert who did not want to be named.

Another expert questions the entire narrative being put forward in the story, "Our understanding is that the Indian Army has hit the Pakistan Army camps, not the launching pads in civilian territory as is being claimed".

CNN-News18 may have shown ingenuity in calling a Azad Kashmir police official, but his version cannot be taken as incriminating evidence of the surgical strikes.

 

[Shot-Caller]

Please also tell what are the things that have been accepted by Pakistan, actually you are stretching it to a point of no return which will make pressure on PA to take some action when the proof comes out in Public. The message by IA has been given with a hard punch and that message has reached its target audience.

If there was actually a bit of truth to indian claims they would have been picking bodies from LoC right now. Our strike would have hit real hard. Our army does not use media to make them look brave. Anyway don't worry about pressure building on PA to act if credible proof comes out. This is actually an opportunity for Indian army to put pressure on Pakistan and prove us wrong. Why don't you people make the most of this opportunity? Make our army look bad and let people confront the army.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

http://nation.com.pk/national/07-May-2016/mirpur-police-get-pat-on-the-back
ssp of mirpur is raja urfan salim. here is the proof. sp is mirza zahid hussain.
the above mentioned sp had already rejected the fake call run by indian channels.
indians wrote something else while in fake call something else is being said. the sp is clearly saying that indians are just making claim.
the same indian media traced dawud ibrahim through stunt operation.
they must have traced osama bin ladin through stunt operation.

If there was actually a bit of truth to indian claims they would have been picking bodies from LoC right now. Our strike would have hit real hard. Our army does not use media to make them look brave. Anyway don't worry about pressure building on PA to act if credible proof comes out. This is actually an opportunity for Indian army to put pressure on Pakistan and prove us wrong. Why don't you people make the most of this opportunity? Make our army look bad and let people confront the army.

2.51 minutes trailor has already been released. even when the video was ending, the bombs were coming.

 

[illusion8]

Ye to baladkaar ho gaya

As expected - BS, here's what really happened.

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

If there was actually a bit of truth to indian claims they would have been picking bodies from LoC right now. Our strike would have hit real hard. Our army does not use media to make them look brave. Anyway don't worry about pressure building on PA to act if credible proof comes out. This is actually an opportunity for Indian army to put pressure on Pakistan and prove us wrong. Why don't you people make the most of this opportunity? Make our army look bad and let people confront the army.

As per your claim when India will give credible evidence only then PA will act that means any body can do anything to Pakistan if they do not do video graphy (where is the proof Ultimate logic). And for media thing compare the media releases by ISPR with Indians in last five year then you will come to know the difference. And the dent is far more than the humiliation of your army dear as you can imagine that many nations have appreceated Indian actions across the border. "Modi is genious"

 

[Shot-Caller]

As per your claim when India will give credible evidence only then PA will act that means any body can do anything to Pakistan if they do not do video graphy (where is the proof Ultimate logic). And for media thing compare the media releases by ISPR with Indians in last five year then you will come to know the difference. And the dent is far more than the humiliation of your army dear as you can imagine that many nations have appreceated Indian actions across the border. "Modi is genious"

Yeah. Google appreciated modi the most. Try seaching 'most stupid prime minister' sometime.

By your logic, anyone who claims to have attacked on Pakistan, Pakistan should declare war on them, no matter if it actually happened or not. You Indians are just getting more and more illogical everyday. I can not indulge in an argument with somebody whose thought process is limited. Have a good day.

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

No sir not at all but If this episode could be taken that many terrorist have gone to hell, the attack was not on PA it was on terrorists. I never favour the chest thumping and this kind of thing are done only for false projections and there are many other areas to compete. For Modi please search the videos not articles and see how much he respected across the world.