Why was Turkey the first Islamic country to recognize the state of Israel?

[xenon54 out]

@EgyptianAmerican ,because of people like you,its hard for Turkish members to engage in the same way some of your Arab brothers do,see the dilema?

I had him and some others in my mind by saying i dont want to offend but some facts must be mentioned when people like that kangaroo guy and Arabi spew their bs around.

Because of people like me? What have I done to deserve your ire?

He is referring to this.

It wouldnt have happen if you guys didnt play the cannon fodder for the Brits, look there are some Arab members that i admire here, i dont want to offend them because of a ignorant troll like you.

 

[T-123456]

Because of people like me? What have I done to deserve your ire?

You didnt get it did ya?

 

[war&peace]

Write a book for all i care.
But give me the gist of it here

In Islam the sovereignty belongs to Allah.
In republic it belongs to the people and that's what we are facing right now.

 

[El Sidd]

In Islam the sovereignty belongs to Allah.
In republic it belongs to the people and that's what we are facing right now.

What is the problem if people willingly do that by democracy?

There is no compulsion in religion.

Do you know who said that?

 

[Cruizer]

2015 I were in Istanbul, Turkey. Very nice & friendly people. When they get know that you are from Pakistan. They are very friendly and nice to that person. Believe me a lot of respect for Pakistanis there. Believe me or not me to discussed that topic that why Turkey have relation with Israel. I were told that its all about business $$$$. They (Israeli) have business here and even their name is according to Islamic name. But they are Jewish. About Pakistan we feel you our Islamic brother country suffering a lot of problems from India, USA, Israel, Afghanistan, from its own poor politicians. But still stand there as Super Power of Islamic State.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

You didnt get it did ya?

When you tagged me I clicked on the alert, it went straight to your comment so I made an assumption.

Sorry, my Turkish friend, it's edited now.

but some facts must be mentioned when people like that kangaroo guy and Arabi spew their bs around.

I truly have no problem with you insulting Arabs, I do admit we utterly and completely failed on the Palestinian issue. I don't blame the Turks for anything, you guys attempted to rally Arabs but we failed to listen and ultimately back-stabbed you guys. we have to deal with the consequences.

I also have no problem with Turkey being allied with Israel. It's understandable and I would hardly fault your government for doing so.

 

[war&peace]

What is the problem if people willingly do that by democracy?

There is no compulsion in religion.

Do you know who said that?

I said enough for the gist as you requested so I obliged you. Nothing more here period.

 

[El Sidd]

I said enough for the gist as you requested so I obliged you. Nothing more here period.

Sure man....

I liked your compatible koh kaaf story as well

 

[xenon54 out]

I truly have no problem with you insulting Arabs,

Talking about myself i would be offended so its understandable if you were but im glad you are not.

 

[war&peace]

Sure man....

I liked your compatible koh kaaf story as well

I don't want to derail the thread. Can we agree on that? I already told you that we need a separate forum to discuss that.

 

[Mucahit]

Some retards saying Atatürk is Greek because he was born in today's Greece what was then part of the Turkish(Ottoman) empire for approximately 450 years?

The Ottoman Turks used a Turkification policy in the Balkans called *İskan* thus dozens of Turkish tribes were sent to the Balkan region to make them Turks...Until the late 1800's Turks made up %40 of the whole Balkan population.

After the decline of the empire many Turks were either killed or exiled...

There are a lot of sad folk songs from Balkan Turks.

Don't you ever go full retard.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

In Islam the sovereignty belongs to Allah.

For practical purposes it always belongs to people. The biggest lie I have ever heard was "in Islam the sovereignty belongs to Allah". It's absurd.

It's like me right now saying "my car, my house, my wife belongs to you". It means nothing. Nada. It's just a bunch of words joined together to make fools happy. As long as ""my car, my house, my wife belongs to you" is not manifested it will remain a empty claim. As empty as glass placed in front of you without water.

If you follow on the "in Islam the sovereignty belongs to Allah" you will soon find that it can't be manifested as nobody has Allah's mobile number. Since we can't contact Allah how do we manifest that sovereignty. This is where these gentleman come along and say "Salaam".

So you end up with the claim of "in Islam the sovereignty belongs to Allah" but that ends with just a excuse for some Mullah or Ibn Saud to actually exercise sovereignty. The only differance then between a head of a republic like Trump and a Mullah is the former does not pretend to have Allah's private mobile number.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Was there any pressure on the Turkish government of the time by the Americans and British to endorse Israel or did they do it by choice?

Who cares???????.........what's the point of Pakistanis crying for the Palestinians when the israelis have NEVER EVER killed or hurt any Pakistanis ever? Do the Palestinians/Arabs cry or care about the Kashmiris or the 1 million Pakistanis genocided by the sikhs in 1947? Why should Pakistanis care about the Arabs and Palestinians when they consider Pakistanis as an inferior race? The problems of the Middle East have got nothing to do with us. Do these Pakistanis who cry for the Palestinians do the same for the Kashmiris or the 1 million Pakistanis genocided by the sikhs in 1947?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

'By choice'...
So the Turks are ok with what the jewish **** suckers have done and are doing to Palestinians. i.e. took over their country by force, carried out a mass-murder and squeezed the remaining population into a tiny strip of land called Gaza and a patch called Westbank, which they later on invaded as well.

You ****ers don't deserve to call yourselves secular either. You sons of ******* are disciples of satan just like the jews and the americunts

What about the Kashmiris and the 1 million Pakistanis genocided by the sikhs in 1947? Why condemn the Jews and Israelis? How many Pakistanis have they killed? As you are not an Arab or Palestinian why do you care about a people who consider you a "lesser human"?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You will be much appreciated if you save some tears to pour in Sind river not here on PDF, you shouldn't care about Arabs or Palestinians but you should blame your British masters because they'rethe ones who left you out there alone like a low hanging fruit to the Indians, so did you blame the British? no, but instead, you work for them while THEY considered/ still consider you an inferior race.

And the indians despite being more than 7x bigger than us and having abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege are still too weak, powerless and helpless to do anything to us

The West doesn't just consider us as an inferior race. They have the exact same opinion with regards to Arabs. Which is why they slaughtered nearly a million Iraqis without any remorse or regret and continue to do so.

I used to have a lot of respect and brotherly affinity with the Turkish people, especially their military; but after reading some of their responses here, I must say.............. nevermind.

The only nation that really deserves to proclaim itself to be a 'Muslim' nation is Iran.
No, I'm not a Shi'ite. I was born and raised in a Sunni family. But I don't associate myself with any sect. There ARE no sects in the Qur'an and I only believe in what is written in the Qur'an.
The Iranis are the only Muslim nation with the guts to stand up against jewish atrocities and crimes against humanity.

The Jews and israelis are not our problem. How about standing up to sikh and indian atrocities in Kashmir? You Pakistanis cry for Arabs who consider you lesser beings but fail to do the same for your own.........Absolute muppets................