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Why Turks has been historically powerful in terms of military?

Gokturk is a collective name. that face may belong to kipchak, kyrgyz, tokuz-oguz, tuba, chik, az, name what you want.

and on your other paragraph (though i don't know what you mean by northern uzbeks), kazakh and uzbek is also a collective name given to confederation of turkic and mongolic tribes. uzbek after uzbek-han, one of hans of golden horde and kazakh means "pirate, marauder, looter, raider". so it shouldn't come as surprise that they somehow resemble mongols, for they have turkified mongol elements within. though uzbeks have more mongol characteristics than kazakhs. and altays do not resemble mongols that much, because as a nation they formed much later after mongol invasions. all in all, i'd say 3/4 is an exagerration.

I don't know what you mean by uzbeks have more mongol characteristics than kazakhs.
Are you sure you're not being confused?

3/4 is not exaggeration

Kazakhs

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Altay

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The Uzbeks look the least Mongol out of all all those Turkic I listed although the Uzbeks from the north including Northeast look much more like Mongol

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I don't know what you mean by uzbeks have more mongol characteristics than kazakhs.
Are you sure you're not being confused?

3/4 is not exaggeration

Kazakhs

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Altay

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The Uzbeks look the least Mongol out of all all those Turkic I listed although the Uzbeks from the north including Northeast look much more like Mongol

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I dont know much about this but @telkon is a kyrghiz himself. I think he has a good knowledge about central asian people.
 
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I know that all people are mix of races, Turkish and Mongolian languages are from same family but Turks nowhere look similar to Mongol. The central Asian Turkic people only look partially similar to Mongols.

That is because a lot of the Turks of Turkey are of mixed background from intermarrying with Europeans throughout the Ottoman era. Also Greece and Turkey had a population exchange and many Greek Muslims came to Turkey and now they all call themselves Turks even though they were once ethnic Greeks. (I have a friend here who is a Turk but his family migrated from Greece during that time)
 
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turks are proximity to mongols, they both are trained by harsh environment of central asia

if u had put afghans in turkey, they would have done the same what turks did
 
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I don't know what you mean by uzbeks have more mongol characteristics than kazakhs.
Are you sure you're not being confused?

3/4 is not exaggeration

Kazakhs

Altay

The Uzbeks look the least Mongol out of all all those Turkic I listed although the Uzbeks from the north including Northeast look much more like Mongol


i'll write my answer later. it'll be a little long and i don't have time right now :)


We are Oghuz Turks, From what i heard from Grandpa , mine ancestors came from Sincan. I don't know the English or Chinese name of that region.

sinkiang or xinjiang. if your ancestors are from there, are you sure you're Oguz? when did they come to turkey?
 
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Turkics themselves got smacked around by the mongols. The mongols used to enslave tatars and rape their woman, that was one of th e biggest reasons you saw turkics migrating towards the mideast.

Uzbeks have loads pf Persian blood, same goes for turkmens. Turkics before migrating to the mideast mixed wi th the iranic sytchians and slavic groups. Hence why some of them have caucasian features in central asia.
 
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Turkics themselves got smacked around by the mongols. The mongols used to enslave tatars and rape their woman, that was one of th e biggest reasons you saw turkics migrating towards the mideast.

Uzbeks have loads pf Persian blood, same goes for turkmens. Turkics before migrating to the mideast mixed wi th the iranic sytchians and slavic groups. Hence why some of them have caucasian features in central asia.

What kind of butt hurt can a Persian have to insult the Turks in that way??
Plz give me an answer..
If we use our logic of thinking can we write the Persian history and ethnicity after the 3th century down as this..

First their was a 100% Pure Sacred Persian Blood but Alexander the gay buttt fuked your nation in the roots then the Greeks ruled almost 100 years over the biggest bordel in Persepolis. After the bussines has go down the other ethnic groups from Mesopotamia has taken it over and get some more creamy on your 100%... Then you got the Abyssinian Arabs who come to say hello with their mokka on your cream. Alper Tunga's fantasy's with the persians are recorded in your own book called "Sahname" after him you could some ease your *** and wait for the Selcuks(South Azeri Turks from today) who bleeded you again after a good break then you got the Tatars,Mongols,Afghans who just had a one-night stand so its no worth to go in details and your best client the Ottomans who drilled more whole's in Persia then a Edammer Dutch aged cheese for centuries.. But all good things has an end! The old sick Ottomon couldnt satisfy the legendary bitch Persia anymore so it was the turn of Russia and the Britts who never says "NO" for a pot wild GangBang.. So wath kind of 100%Pure Blood did mixed with the Uzbek Turks and Turkmens whats made them look like a persogreconomadicafghanarabmongolian from Iran??

Turks, Mongols,Hungarians and all other Ural/Altaic nations come from the same roots we are all consciouness of this fact! So the pathetic made up ethnic stories of yours wont have any chance.. The "West" is trying for more then 1000 years to seperate us and give us different ethnicity's, the communist regim has killed millions of Turkic ppl along a century just becauze they didnt stop calling himself "Elhamdulillah Muslim and Turk"
Do you really think that a shame for Iran as you can change this fact with some made up lines and insults?

FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH not from a hatefull Iranallapopoulos but from real ELECTED leaders of 1 BIG nation "you only have to do 3 things its very very simple.."
1) OPEN YOUTUBE
2) type TURAN/pick one of this names below/English sub(titles) <--- you can shorten it if ur lazy..
3) Watch&Learn
Atambayev Almazbek(Kirgizistan, president), Gabor Vona(Hungaria, leader of Jobbik), Alparslan Turkes(Turkey,PM and leader of the Grey Wolves), Rabia Kadeer(East Turkistan, National Leader), Aliyev Haydar & Ilham (Azerbaijan, President), Nursultan Nazarbayev (Kazahkstan,President), Zaandaakhu Enkhbold (Mongolia, Chief national parliaments of Mongolia)
 
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Every culture has life-cycle...

1. Infant
2. teenage
3. Adulthood
4. Old
5. Death


At there teenage and Adulthood many culture are at there peak (Powerful, Tyrant, Arrogant), But ultimately all culture dies.. For some life-cycle is longer for some its small.

There was a time, when Turks were weak, there was a time they were strong, There will be a time when they (culture) will die..
 
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Every culture has life-cycle...

1. Infant
2. teenage
3. Adulthood
4. Old
5. Death


At there teenage and Adulthood many culture are at there peak (Powerful, Tyrant, Arrogant), But ultimately all culture dies.. For some life-cycle is longer for some its small.

There was a time, when Turks were weak, there was a time they were strong, There will be a time when they (culture) will die..

Youre answer was written on a stone 1350 years ago by Bilghe Khan emperor of the Gökturks

Original Transpcription
Türük Oguz begleri, budun eşiding. Üze tengri basmasar, asra yir telinmeser, Türük budun, ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti ?

Turkish Translation
Türk Oğuz beyleri, ulusu işitin; üstte gök basmasa, altta yer delinmese, Türk ulusu, ilini töreni kim bozabilecekti ?

English Translation
Turkish Oğuz-leaders, Give your ear to your "nation, ancestors, identity"; as long the sky dont fall down, as long the earth dont colapse beneath, who is capable of destroying youre nation, youre "laws, cultures, state"?
 
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i'll write my answer later. it'll be a little long and i don't have time right now :)

sinkiang or xinjiang. if your ancestors are from there, are you sure you're Oguz? when did they come to turkey?

I don't know, that what my grandfather says, probably in 11-12 century. Our family was in Anatolia in 15th centruary , we are sure of it.
 
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Personally i dont care how mixed we are and where we came from or where we went.
All of us are Turkiye!:smokin:

Oi @xenon54 @Sinan - Since when have you guys allowed certain Turks from the Netherlands who like to dress up like women complete with the high-heels, backless dresses & a face full of make-up, to call themselves Turks ? :unsure:
 
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Oi @xenon54 @Sinan - Since when have you guys allowed certain Turks from the Netherlands who like to dress up like women complete with the high-heels, backless dresses & a face full of make-up, to call themselves Turks ? :unsure:
Mate, im not gonna comment to this, im scared of @T-123456 i dont wanna share the same fate like you. :lol:
 
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We are Oghuz Turks, From what i heard from Grandpa , mine ancestors came from Sincan. I don't know the English or Chinese name of that region.

Are you referring to Sanjan in Turkmenistan, that was place from where Zoroastrians came to India.
 
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