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Live: PM Modi visits Ananda Temple In Bagan, India, Myanmar ink 11 deals
Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Myanmar comes amid a spike in ethnic violence against Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine. Here are the latest updates and developments
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Presented Daw Aung San Suu Kyi a special reproduction of original research proposal she submitted for fellowship at IIAS, Shimla in May 1986

■ Suu Kyi has a strong connection with India. She studied political science from the Lady Shri Ram College in Delhi and graduated in 1964. She was also a fellow in Shimla at the prestigious Indian Institute of Advanced Studies. Suu Kyi had also spent time with her husband Michael Aris and two sons Kim and Alexander in the former summer capital of the British India. (PTI)

■ India said on Wednesday that it shares Myanmar’s concerns over the “extremist violence” in the Rakhine state and urged all stakeholders to find a solution that respects the country’s unity. The two leaders also vowed to combat terror and boost security cooperation with Modi emphasising that it was important to maintain stability along the long land and maritime borders of the two countries.

Modi’s first bilateral visit here comes at a time when the Myanmarese government led by Nobel laureate Suu Kyi is facing international pressure over the 125,000 Rohingya refugees that have poured across the Bangladeshi border in just two weeks after Myanmar’s military launched a crackdown in the Rakhine state.

Modi, in his joint press statement with Suu Kyi after the talks, said India understands the problems being faced by Myanmar. He said India shares Myanmar’s concerns over the “extremist violence” in the Rakhine state, especially the loss of innocent lives of the people and the military personnel.

“When it comes to a big peace process or finding a solution to a problem, we hope that all stakeholders can work together towards finding a solution which respects the unity and territorial integrity of Myanmar,” Modi said. At the same time, the solution can bring about peace, justice, dignity and democratic values for all, he said. (PTI)

■ Read full text of Prime Minister’s statement during the joint media briefing with State Councillor of Myanmar in Naypyidaw.

■ India and Myanmar today signed 11 agreements in a range of sectors, including one on maritime security cooperation, to further strengthen their multifaceted partnership. The MoUs were signed after Prime Minister Narendra Modi held wide-ranging talks with Myanmar’s State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi.

— India and Myanmar signed an MoU to strengthen maritime security cooperation.

— The two sides also signed an agreement for sharing white shipping information to improve data sharing on non-classified merchant navy ships or cargo ships.

— The MoUs include one between the Election Commission and Union Election of Myanmar, the national level electoral commission of Myanmar.

— An MoU was also signed to organise cultural exchange programme for the period 2017-2020, according to a statement issued by Ministry of External Affairs.

— India and Myanmar also signed agreements on cooperation between Myanmar Press Council and Press Council of India, extension of agreement on the establishment of India-Myanmar Centre for Enhancement of IT skill.

— The two countries also signed agreement to cooperate in ‘Medical Products Regulation’ and in the field of health and medicine.

— They also signed MoU on enhancing the cooperation on upgradation of the women’s police training centre at Yamethin in Myanmar.

List of MoUs/Agreements signed during State visit of Prime Minister to Myanmar.

■ Together we can ensure that terrorism is not allowed to take root on our soil or on the soil of neighbouring countries: Suu Kyi.

■ Would like to thank India for taking a strong stand on the terror threat that Myanmar faced recently: State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi.

■ We want all stake holders to work towards preserving Myanmar’s unity and territorial integrity: PM after talks with Aung San Suu Kyi.

Earlier, AFP reported Suu Kyi as saying on Wednesday that a “huge iceberg of misinformation” was distorting the picture of the Rohingya crisis, which has forced 125,000 of the Muslim minority to flee to Bangladesh. In her first comments since Rohingya militant attacks sparked unrest on 25 August, Suu Kyi said fake news was “calculated to create a lot of problems between different communities” and to promote “the interest of the terrorists”.

■ It is important to maintain security and stability along the long land and maritime borders of India and Myanmar: PM Modi.
#IndiaMyanmar - Strengthening a multifaceted partnership. pic.twitter.com/Ke6O4aVzHV
Raveesh Kumar (@MEAIndia) September 6, 2017
■ India stands with Myanmar over the issue of violence in the Rakhine state which has led to loss of innocent lives: PM Modi.

■ Citizens of Myanmar who wish to visit India will be given gratis visas, and 40 Myanmarese citizens in Indian jails will be released: PM Modi (ANI)

■ Your (Aung San Suu Kyi) courageous leadership to the Myanmar peace process needs to be lauded: PM Modi. (ANI)

■ PM Narendra Modi : Deepening relationship with Myanmar is a priority for India, as a neighbour and also in the context of ‘Act East Policy’.

■ PM Narendra Modi: We would like to contribute to Myanmar’s development efforts as part of our ‘Sabka saath sabka vikaas’ initiative.

Meeting a valued friend. PM @narendramodi with the State Councillor Aung San Suu Kyi
■ “Meeting a valued friend. PM @narendramodi with the State Councillor Aung San Suu Kyi,” external affairs ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar tweeted.

■ Prime Minister Modi on Tuesday presented Myanmar President Htin Kyaw a sculpture of Bodhi tree.

■ The prime minister’s visit to Myanmar comes amid a spike in ethnic violence against Rohingya Muslims in the Rakhine state. He is expected to raise the issue of the exodus of the ethnic Rohingyas into neighbouring countries.

The Indian government is also concerned about Rohingya immigrants in the country, and has been considering to deport them. Around 40,000 Rohingyas are said to be staying illegally in India.

■ India and Myanmar were also looking at strengthening existing cooperation in areas of security and counter- terrorism, trade and investment, infrastructure and energy, and culture, Modi had said ahead of his visit.

■ Modi arrived in Myanmar on the second leg of his two-nation trip during which he travelled to southeastern Chinese city Xiamen where he attended the annual Brics summit and held talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin and other world leaders.

This is Modi’s first bilateral visit to Myanmar. He had visited the country in 2014 to attend the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean)-India summit. Myanmar is one of India’s strategic neighbours and shares a 1,640-km-long border with a number of northeastern states including militancy-hit Nagaland and Manipur.
Agencies contributed to the live updates
First Published: Wed, Sep 06 2017. 10 19 AM IST
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12:00 AM, September 07, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 03:06 AM, September 07, 2017
India shares Myanmar's concerns
Modi says after meeting Suu Kyi

Reuters, Naypyitaw
Prime Minister Narendra Modi said yesterday that India shared Myanmar's concern about "extremist violence" in its Rakhine state, where a security force operation against Muslim rebels has sent about 125,000 people fleeing to Bangladesh.

Modi spoke after talks with Myanmar's de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi during a visit aimed at expanding commercial ties as part of an "Act East" policy, and pushing back against Chinese influence.

Myanmar has come under international pressure after some 125,000 Rohingya Muslims fled from a surge of violence in Rakhine state, beginning with an Aug 25 attack by Rohingya insurgents on dozens of police posts and an army base.

The rebel attacks triggered a sweep by the Myanmar security forces, in which refugees and right groups say many innocent Rohingya have been targeted.

Buddhist-majority Myanmar rejects accusations by refugees and rights groups that its armed forces have violated the rights of the mostly stateless Rohingya, saying the army and police are fighting "terrorists".

Mostly Hindu India has faced years of attacks by Islamist militants.

Suu Kyi told a joint news conference at the presidential palace in the capital, Naypyitaw, that Myanmar was grateful for India's stance on the attack on her country and they could work together to face the challenge.

"We would like to thank India particularly for its strong that it has taken with regard to terrorist threat that came to our country a couple of weeks ago," she said in brief remarks.

"We believe that together we can work to make sure that terrorism is not allowed to take root on our soil."

Modi said India and Myanmar had similar security interests in the region.

"We share your concerns about extremist violence in Rakhine state and specially the violence against security forces and how innocent lives have been affected," he said.

"We hope that all the stakeholders together can find a way out in which the unity and territorial integrity of Myanmar is respected and at the same time we can have peace, justice dignity and democratic values for all."

Modi's government has taken a strong stance on an influx into India of some 40,000 Rohingya from Myanmar over the years, vowing last month to deport them all.

That decision has drawn criticism from rights groups and prompted a petition in the Supreme Court to stop the government from doing so.

International concern, in particular from Muslim countries, is growing about the latest exodus of Rohingya.

India is trying to boost economic ties with resource-rich Myanmar, with which it shares a 1,600-km (1,000-mile) border, to counter Chinese influence and step up links with a country it considers its gateway to Southeast Asia.

Two-way trade has grown to about $2.2 billion as India courts Myanmar following the gradual end of military rule, but Indian-funded projects have moved slowly.

India recently started exporting diesel to Myanmar via a land route, in a boost to Modi's pledge to enhance hydrocarbon trade with neighbours.
http://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/india-shares-myanmars-concerns-1458538

 

[Aung Zaya]

LOL, so much desperation. But, do you have any neutral source?

You Burmese faggots denied UN entrance. So, anything coming from you is 100% fake news. Faggots...

brainwashed ashholes...!! so many reporters have been allowed to interview and see the real situation of rakhine. UN shit are doing nothing in Myanmar.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155607260468329

Rakhine Violence: On the Ground in Maungdaw


By The Irrawaddy 9 September 2017

Kyaw Zwa Moe: Welcome to Dateline Irrawaddy! It has been 10 days since Muslim terrorists launched attacks in Rakhine State’s Maungdaw District. According to government figures as well as information we’ve collected, about 500 people were killed in 10 days. Our reporter Ko Moe Myint recently went to Maungdaw to interview the people there and also witnessed attacks and damage. We’ll discuss who he interviewed, what he saw and the situation on the ground. I’m Irrawaddy English editor Kyaw Zwa Moe.

KZM: According to a government release, around 400 ARSA [Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army] members were killed. The worst thing is reports that more than 80 Hindus—[Moe Myint] also interviewed some Hindu community members—were allegedly killed. You went to Maungdaw where attacks were taking place and houses were burned down. Would you recount what you saw?

Moe Myint: As soon as we got into Buthidaung, we could feel the severity of the conflict in Maungdaw. We saw clouds of smoke billowing into the sky. As soon as we arrived at Buthidaung Jetty, we heard the bad news that four Arakanese people were killed near Zula village in Maungdaw’s three-mile camp. There is a village called Myo Thugyi which is just a five-minute walk out of Maungdaw. It is a big Muslim village. There are around 1,200 houses there. All the houses were torched and none of them remained intact.

I went to Maungdaw after attacks in Oct. 9, 2016. At that time, the situation was different. Myo Thugyi village was lively with bazaars and students. But now, all of the houses have been reduced to ash. The whole village is gone. This was the first sign of the immensity of the conflict on the ground. I went to [relief] camps and interviewed Hindus. After the conflict broke out on Aug. 25, Muslim crowds threatened them [they said]. Hindus live together with Muslims in No. 4 and No. 5 wards [of Maungdaw]. All those wards have been torched. Witnesses said arson attacks were carried out by religious extremists. I also witnessed [their feelings].

KZM: You mean Hindu witnesses?

MM: Yes.

KZM: You have also reported about this. Were [Hindus] killed by Muslim militants?

MM: Muslims made threats. Some shot with a gun and one [Hindu] was killed. I also interviewed the mother of a victim.
She could identify from where the gun was fired. But things are different from what we usually see in movies—not every one of them is shooting with a gun. Some have improvised firearms, some have guns and some have swords. They are a large crowd and it is easier for them to threaten and attack small groups of people. Hindus are the minority there and they dare not talk back to them. What they can do is to avoid conflict. So, they flee. But the town is too small, only four or five wards. So, they flee to Arakanese wards. They escaped, but unluckily some were killed on the way.

KZM: According to witnesses, how many Hindus were killed?

MM: I met the survivors of a family whose members included children [and said] about four or five [members of the family] were killed. She was a Hindu woman called ‘Kamala’ who was receiving treatment at Buthidaung Township Hospital. Her 12-member family came back from southern Maungdaw on Aug. 26 and 27 after conflict broke out. And they took a rest at three-mile camp where police were providing security. They followed a police convoy to go to Ward No. 4 [in Maungdaw]. But by that time, that ward had already been reduced to ashes. The security convoy encountered hundreds of Muslim militants in Myo Thugyi village on their way to Maungdaw. It was followed by an exchange of fire, and the Hindu family fled in fright to the district court, which was under construction. The security convoy didn’t care about the people who were travelling behind them. Perhaps they wanted to avoid conflict with large crowds or perhaps they hadn’t noticed the people travelling behind them. They left. The [Hindu] family was too frightened and so they fled into a nearby building. Some of the people in the crowd had guns and they shot [at them]. Kamala was hit. She was shot in the chest and lost consciousness. The rest were killed with swords. Witnesses told us that [attackers] said words related to religion like ‘Allah is taking you. So you must go.’ [Attackers] left her because they thought she was dead. We can say her account is very credible.

KZM: Did you interview any Muslims living in Maungdaw or Sittwe? What did they say?

MM: I met about six Muslims. Most of them were educated and businesspeople. Anyway, it is fair to say they were educated. They said they condemned such violence. Violence disrupts regional stability and order. They are in hardship now. There were attacks on 30 locations in Maungdaw District, and that also impacts urban areas. Grassroots poor Muslim families who have to rely on rivers and creeks for their daily livelihoods and who know nothing about politics also suffered from the impact of that conflict. They could not go to the market. There is no food and they have to share food with each other. There are two separate things here: ARSA claimed that it fights for its political goal, but its actions have shifted to terrorism. Their acts cannot move the situation for everyday people in a positive direction. At least, they should have displayed tolerance. Kofi Annan’s [Rakhine State Advisory] Commission formed by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi has also provided recommendations. But [ARSA] didn’t wait for the implementation of those recommendations, and instead it launched attacks.

MM: We discussed this in last week’s Dateline. Attacks were launched on Aug. 25, the same day Kofi Annan submitted his recommendations to the government, the president and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. The government said it would implement those recommendations. Then, immediately, attacks followed. It is fair to say attacks were launched even before that. [ARSA’s] response is that they didn’t accept Kofi Annan’s recommendations and their implementation by the government. They responded in a violent way.

MM: I think they are undermining the positive move made by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi’s government to solve the problem. Viewing ARSA’s recent official video clips on YouTube, its ultimate political goal is to build an Islamic State [for the Rohingya]. To put it bluntly, it is no longer about human rights. It is about self-interest, which is contrary to human rights. Reconciliation, I think, would be difficult in Maungdaw if they work to that end.

KZM: You mean it will be hard to reconcile between the two communities?

MM: Not just two sides, it is three parties now. One more party has been involved—the Hindu community. I’ve asked Hindus, and all of them unanimously said they dare not live together with [Muslims]. They will not go back to stay within Muslim quarters anymore and also refuse to accept government suggestions that they live together with Muslims. They asked the government for segregation.

KZM: What about other sub-ethnic groups such as the Mro [an Arakanese sub-group]? Did you interview them and what did they say?

MM: Mro people also dare not live [alongside Muslims]. They know nothing about politics. They don’t know who the Rohingya are. To put it bluntly, they don’t even know who the president of Myanmar is. Such people who lead a simple life on farms and who know nothing about urban life were killed, and fell victim to the conflict. They are frightened to death. They have lived and worked on hillside farms for generations and never experienced this before. Now, they have all moved.

KZM: Before you went to Maungdaw, the government declared ARSA a terrorist organization. Did you witness its activities on the ground in Maungdaw? To what extent is it involved in the Maungdaw [attacks]?

MM: What I found out is—I didn’t witness it—from the car I was in, I saw the location of a mine explosion on the way. It is obvious that ARSA has influence over local Muslim people. When I interviewed Muslim sources about ARSA, they were reluctant to answer. We must understand this. I also understand this, so I don’t disclose the identity of Muslim sources. Because if they criticize the government—they are businessmen and educated—it could impact their long-term relations [with the government]. But on the other hand, if they criticize ARSA and if we disclose their identity—there are previous examples of Muslim men beheaded after they gave interviews to the government. The situation is dangerous for them in the conflict zone.

KZM: Do you think this conflict will go on?

MM: It is very likely that it will continue. An Islamic State, which is the ultimate goal of ARSA according to their online video clips, will continue the conflict. This is quite sure. And regarding the geographical location of Maungdaw, it is surrounded by three large Muslim villages. There are at least 30,000 people. Of them, only Myo Thugyi is gone and two others remain intact. No houses were burned and there was no conflict there. So, it is fair to say there is still some hope for remedy. But if the goal of an Islamic State is real and people from those villages join them, the problem will get worse.

KZM: Thank you for your contribution!
https://www.irrawaddy.com/dateline/rakhine-violence-ground-maungdaw.html
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1750300221681494

seriously..!! u even watch the clip till the end... see what she said... Read this carefully... @Nilgiri

All race religion are running towards BD border except ofcourse Rakhine and Bamars.
Check out :18 seconds.

Checkout exodus of Hindus muslims together... I dont know if you know the makeup of Hindus.. In this video most of the people without Burkhas are Hindus.

lol Hindu people who run to BD is just very small part of hindu community who fled insides Myanmar with security cover.
Hindus from Latha Village in Maungdaw Township and Ngayantchaung Village in Buthidaung Township moved to a safer place
Submitted by Eleven on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 11:13

Photo credit: Commander-in-chief Office
Hindus from Latha Village in Maungdaw Township and Ngayantchaung Village in Buthidaung Township were moved to a safer place, announced the Commander-in-chief Office.

After terrorists’ attacks in northern Rakhine State on August 25, the Hindus in Latha Village have faced various threats from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists. Local Hindus reported their situation to the local Light infantry Division through the Maungdaw Township administrator this morning.

Security guards, township administrator and team then went to the village and met with village elders and brought 444 people from 70 Hindu families to the No.2 basic education high school in Maungdaw, the place safe from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists.

Similarly, security guards accompanied and moved 199 Hindus from Ward-9 in Ngayantchaung Village to Ward-4, a safe haven from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists, according to the Commander-in-chief Office.
http://www.elevenmyanmar.com/local/11380
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[TopCat]

brainwashed ashholes...!! so many reporters have been allowed to interview and see the real situation of rakhine. UN shit are doing nothing in Myanmar.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155607260468329

Rakhine Violence: On the Ground in Maungdaw


By The Irrawaddy 9 September 2017

Kyaw Zwa Moe: Welcome to Dateline Irrawaddy! It has been 10 days since Muslim terrorists launched attacks in Rakhine State’s Maungdaw District. According to government figures as well as information we’ve collected, about 500 people were killed in 10 days. Our reporter Ko Moe Myint recently went to Maungdaw to interview the people there and also witnessed attacks and damage. We’ll discuss who he interviewed, what he saw and the situation on the ground. I’m Irrawaddy English editor Kyaw Zwa Moe.

KZM: According to a government release, around 400 ARSA [Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army] members were killed. The worst thing is reports that more than 80 Hindus—[Moe Myint] also interviewed some Hindu community members—were allegedly killed. You went to Maungdaw where attacks were taking place and houses were burned down. Would you recount what you saw?

Moe Myint: As soon as we got into Buthidaung, we could feel the severity of the conflict in Maungdaw. We saw clouds of smoke billowing into the sky. As soon as we arrived at Buthidaung Jetty, we heard the bad news that four Arakanese people were killed near Zula village in Maungdaw’s three-mile camp. There is a village called Myo Thugyi which is just a five-minute walk out of Maungdaw. It is a big Muslim village. There are around 1,200 houses there. All the houses were torched and none of them remained intact.

I went to Maungdaw after attacks in Oct. 9, 2016. At that time, the situation was different. Myo Thugyi village was lively with bazaars and students. But now, all of the houses have been reduced to ash. The whole village is gone. This was the first sign of the immensity of the conflict on the ground. I went to [relief] camps and interviewed Hindus. After the conflict broke out on Aug. 25, Muslim crowds threatened them [they said]. Hindus live together with Muslims in No. 4 and No. 5 wards [of Maungdaw]. All those wards have been torched. Witnesses said arson attacks were carried out by religious extremists. I also witnessed [their feelings].

KZM: You mean Hindu witnesses?

MM: Yes.

KZM: You have also reported about this. Were [Hindus] killed by Muslim militants?

MM: Muslims made threats. Some shot with a gun and one [Hindu] was killed. I also interviewed the mother of a victim.
She could identify from where the gun was fired. But things are different from what we usually see in movies—not every one of them is shooting with a gun. Some have improvised firearms, some have guns and some have swords. They are a large crowd and it is easier for them to threaten and attack small groups of people. Hindus are the minority there and they dare not talk back to them. What they can do is to avoid conflict. So, they flee. But the town is too small, only four or five wards. So, they flee to Arakanese wards. They escaped, but unluckily some were killed on the way.

KZM: According to witnesses, how many Hindus were killed?

MM: I met the survivors of a family whose members included children [and said] about four or five [members of the family] were killed. She was a Hindu woman called ‘Kamala’ who was receiving treatment at Buthidaung Township Hospital. Her 12-member family came back from southern Maungdaw on Aug. 26 and 27 after conflict broke out. And they took a rest at three-mile camp where police were providing security. They followed a police convoy to go to Ward No. 4 [in Maungdaw]. But by that time, that ward had already been reduced to ashes. The security convoy encountered hundreds of Muslim militants in Myo Thugyi village on their way to Maungdaw. It was followed by an exchange of fire, and the Hindu family fled in fright to the district court, which was under construction. The security convoy didn’t care about the people who were travelling behind them. Perhaps they wanted to avoid conflict with large crowds or perhaps they hadn’t noticed the people travelling behind them. They left. The [Hindu] family was too frightened and so they fled into a nearby building. Some of the people in the crowd had guns and they shot [at them]. Kamala was hit. She was shot in the chest and lost consciousness. The rest were killed with swords. Witnesses told us that [attackers] said words related to religion like ‘Allah is taking you. So you must go.’ [Attackers] left her because they thought she was dead. We can say her account is very credible.

KZM: Did you interview any Muslims living in Maungdaw or Sittwe? What did they say?

MM: I met about six Muslims. Most of them were educated and businesspeople. Anyway, it is fair to say they were educated. They said they condemned such violence. Violence disrupts regional stability and order. They are in hardship now. There were attacks on 30 locations in Maungdaw District, and that also impacts urban areas. Grassroots poor Muslim families who have to rely on rivers and creeks for their daily livelihoods and who know nothing about politics also suffered from the impact of that conflict. They could not go to the market. There is no food and they have to share food with each other. There are two separate things here: ARSA claimed that it fights for its political goal, but its actions have shifted to terrorism. Their acts cannot move the situation for everyday people in a positive direction. At least, they should have displayed tolerance. Kofi Annan’s [Rakhine State Advisory] Commission formed by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi has also provided recommendations. But [ARSA] didn’t wait for the implementation of those recommendations, and instead it launched attacks.

MM: We discussed this in last week’s Dateline. Attacks were launched on Aug. 25, the same day Kofi Annan submitted his recommendations to the government, the president and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. The government said it would implement those recommendations. Then, immediately, attacks followed. It is fair to say attacks were launched even before that. [ARSA’s] response is that they didn’t accept Kofi Annan’s recommendations and their implementation by the government. They responded in a violent way.

MM: I think they are undermining the positive move made by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi’s government to solve the problem. Viewing ARSA’s recent official video clips on YouTube, its ultimate political goal is to build an Islamic State [for the Rohingya]. To put it bluntly, it is no longer about human rights. It is about self-interest, which is contrary to human rights. Reconciliation, I think, would be difficult in Maungdaw if they work to that end.

KZM: You mean it will be hard to reconcile between the two communities?

MM: Not just two sides, it is three parties now. One more party has been involved—the Hindu community. I’ve asked Hindus, and all of them unanimously said they dare not live together with [Muslims]. They will not go back to stay within Muslim quarters anymore and also refuse to accept government suggestions that they live together with Muslims. They asked the government for segregation.

KZM: What about other sub-ethnic groups such as the Mro [an Arakanese sub-group]? Did you interview them and what did they say?

MM: Mro people also dare not live [alongside Muslims]. They know nothing about politics. They don’t know who the Rohingya are. To put it bluntly, they don’t even know who the president of Myanmar is. Such people who lead a simple life on farms and who know nothing about urban life were killed, and fell victim to the conflict. They are frightened to death. They have lived and worked on hillside farms for generations and never experienced this before. Now, they have all moved.

KZM: Before you went to Maungdaw, the government declared ARSA a terrorist organization. Did you witness its activities on the ground in Maungdaw? To what extent is it involved in the Maungdaw [attacks]?

MM: What I found out is—I didn’t witness it—from the car I was in, I saw the location of a mine explosion on the way. It is obvious that ARSA has influence over local Muslim people. When I interviewed Muslim sources about ARSA, they were reluctant to answer. We must understand this. I also understand this, so I don’t disclose the identity of Muslim sources. Because if they criticize the government—they are businessmen and educated—it could impact their long-term relations [with the government]. But on the other hand, if they criticize ARSA and if we disclose their identity—there are previous examples of Muslim men beheaded after they gave interviews to the government. The situation is dangerous for them in the conflict zone.

KZM: Do you think this conflict will go on?

MM: It is very likely that it will continue. An Islamic State, which is the ultimate goal of ARSA according to their online video clips, will continue the conflict. This is quite sure. And regarding the geographical location of Maungdaw, it is surrounded by three large Muslim villages. There are at least 30,000 people. Of them, only Myo Thugyi is gone and two others remain intact. No houses were burned and there was no conflict there. So, it is fair to say there is still some hope for remedy. But if the goal of an Islamic State is real and people from those villages join them, the problem will get worse.

KZM: Thank you for your contribution!
https://www.irrawaddy.com/dateline/rakhine-violence-ground-maungdaw.html
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1750300221681494

seriously..!! u even watch the clip till the end... see what she said... Read this carefully... @Nilgiri
View attachment 424126

lol Hindu people who run to BD is just very small part of hindu community who fled insides Myanmar with security cover.
Hindus from Latha Village in Maungdaw Township and Ngayantchaung Village in Buthidaung Township moved to a safer place
Submitted by Eleven on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 11:13

Photo credit: Commander-in-chief Office
Hindus from Latha Village in Maungdaw Township and Ngayantchaung Village in Buthidaung Township were moved to a safer place, announced the Commander-in-chief Office.

After terrorists’ attacks in northern Rakhine State on August 25, the Hindus in Latha Village have faced various threats from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists. Local Hindus reported their situation to the local Light infantry Division through the Maungdaw Township administrator this morning.

Security guards, township administrator and team then went to the village and met with village elders and brought 444 people from 70 Hindu families to the No.2 basic education high school in Maungdaw, the place safe from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists.

Similarly, security guards accompanied and moved 199 Hindus from Ward-9 in Ngayantchaung Village to Ward-4, a safe haven from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists, according to the Commander-in-chief Office.
http://www.elevenmyanmar.com/local/11380
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This lady was the former charge-de-affairs of USA in Burma and a close friend of Su Ki. I am not sure if she is getting paid by burmese government or not as she runs her own private organization now. She looks like a spokesperson for Su-Ki

And here is your Hindu propaganda story gone sour in Nay Nay pa Daw.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-propaganda-images-gone-sour.516660/

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

brainwashed ashholes...!! so many reporters have been allowed to interview and see the real situation of rakhine. UN shit are doing nothing in Myanmar.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155607260468329

Rakhine Violence: On the Ground in Maungdaw


By The Irrawaddy 9 September 2017

Kyaw Zwa Moe: Welcome to Dateline Irrawaddy! It has been 10 days since Muslim terrorists launched attacks in Rakhine State’s Maungdaw District. According to government figures as well as information we’ve collected, about 500 people were killed in 10 days. Our reporter Ko Moe Myint recently went to Maungdaw to interview the people there and also witnessed attacks and damage. We’ll discuss who he interviewed, what he saw and the situation on the ground. I’m Irrawaddy English editor Kyaw Zwa Moe.

KZM: According to a government release, around 400 ARSA [Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army] members were killed. The worst thing is reports that more than 80 Hindus—[Moe Myint] also interviewed some Hindu community members—were allegedly killed. You went to Maungdaw where attacks were taking place and houses were burned down. Would you recount what you saw?

Moe Myint: As soon as we got into Buthidaung, we could feel the severity of the conflict in Maungdaw. We saw clouds of smoke billowing into the sky. As soon as we arrived at Buthidaung Jetty, we heard the bad news that four Arakanese people were killed near Zula village in Maungdaw’s three-mile camp. There is a village called Myo Thugyi which is just a five-minute walk out of Maungdaw. It is a big Muslim village. There are around 1,200 houses there. All the houses were torched and none of them remained intact.

I went to Maungdaw after attacks in Oct. 9, 2016. At that time, the situation was different. Myo Thugyi village was lively with bazaars and students. But now, all of the houses have been reduced to ash. The whole village is gone. This was the first sign of the immensity of the conflict on the ground. I went to [relief] camps and interviewed Hindus. After the conflict broke out on Aug. 25, Muslim crowds threatened them [they said]. Hindus live together with Muslims in No. 4 and No. 5 wards [of Maungdaw]. All those wards have been torched. Witnesses said arson attacks were carried out by religious extremists. I also witnessed [their feelings].

KZM: You mean Hindu witnesses?

MM: Yes.

KZM: You have also reported about this. Were [Hindus] killed by Muslim militants?

MM: Muslims made threats. Some shot with a gun and one [Hindu] was killed. I also interviewed the mother of a victim.
She could identify from where the gun was fired. But things are different from what we usually see in movies—not every one of them is shooting with a gun. Some have improvised firearms, some have guns and some have swords. They are a large crowd and it is easier for them to threaten and attack small groups of people. Hindus are the minority there and they dare not talk back to them. What they can do is to avoid conflict. So, they flee. But the town is too small, only four or five wards. So, they flee to Arakanese wards. They escaped, but unluckily some were killed on the way.

KZM: According to witnesses, how many Hindus were killed?

MM: I met the survivors of a family whose members included children [and said] about four or five [members of the family] were killed. She was a Hindu woman called ‘Kamala’ who was receiving treatment at Buthidaung Township Hospital. Her 12-member family came back from southern Maungdaw on Aug. 26 and 27 after conflict broke out. And they took a rest at three-mile camp where police were providing security. They followed a police convoy to go to Ward No. 4 [in Maungdaw]. But by that time, that ward had already been reduced to ashes. The security convoy encountered hundreds of Muslim militants in Myo Thugyi village on their way to Maungdaw. It was followed by an exchange of fire, and the Hindu family fled in fright to the district court, which was under construction. The security convoy didn’t care about the people who were travelling behind them. Perhaps they wanted to avoid conflict with large crowds or perhaps they hadn’t noticed the people travelling behind them. They left. The [Hindu] family was too frightened and so they fled into a nearby building. Some of the people in the crowd had guns and they shot [at them]. Kamala was hit. She was shot in the chest and lost consciousness. The rest were killed with swords. Witnesses told us that [attackers] said words related to religion like ‘Allah is taking you. So you must go.’ [Attackers] left her because they thought she was dead. We can say her account is very credible.

KZM: Did you interview any Muslims living in Maungdaw or Sittwe? What did they say?

MM: I met about six Muslims. Most of them were educated and businesspeople. Anyway, it is fair to say they were educated. They said they condemned such violence. Violence disrupts regional stability and order. They are in hardship now. There were attacks on 30 locations in Maungdaw District, and that also impacts urban areas. Grassroots poor Muslim families who have to rely on rivers and creeks for their daily livelihoods and who know nothing about politics also suffered from the impact of that conflict. They could not go to the market. There is no food and they have to share food with each other. There are two separate things here: ARSA claimed that it fights for its political goal, but its actions have shifted to terrorism. Their acts cannot move the situation for everyday people in a positive direction. At least, they should have displayed tolerance. Kofi Annan’s [Rakhine State Advisory] Commission formed by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi has also provided recommendations. But [ARSA] didn’t wait for the implementation of those recommendations, and instead it launched attacks.

MM: We discussed this in last week’s Dateline. Attacks were launched on Aug. 25, the same day Kofi Annan submitted his recommendations to the government, the president and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. The government said it would implement those recommendations. Then, immediately, attacks followed. It is fair to say attacks were launched even before that. [ARSA’s] response is that they didn’t accept Kofi Annan’s recommendations and their implementation by the government. They responded in a violent way.

MM: I think they are undermining the positive move made by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi’s government to solve the problem. Viewing ARSA’s recent official video clips on YouTube, its ultimate political goal is to build an Islamic State [for the Rohingya]. To put it bluntly, it is no longer about human rights. It is about self-interest, which is contrary to human rights. Reconciliation, I think, would be difficult in Maungdaw if they work to that end.

KZM: You mean it will be hard to reconcile between the two communities?

MM: Not just two sides, it is three parties now. One more party has been involved—the Hindu community. I’ve asked Hindus, and all of them unanimously said they dare not live together with [Muslims]. They will not go back to stay within Muslim quarters anymore and also refuse to accept government suggestions that they live together with Muslims. They asked the government for segregation.

KZM: What about other sub-ethnic groups such as the Mro [an Arakanese sub-group]? Did you interview them and what did they say?

MM: Mro people also dare not live [alongside Muslims]. They know nothing about politics. They don’t know who the Rohingya are. To put it bluntly, they don’t even know who the president of Myanmar is. Such people who lead a simple life on farms and who know nothing about urban life were killed, and fell victim to the conflict. They are frightened to death. They have lived and worked on hillside farms for generations and never experienced this before. Now, they have all moved.

KZM: Before you went to Maungdaw, the government declared ARSA a terrorist organization. Did you witness its activities on the ground in Maungdaw? To what extent is it involved in the Maungdaw [attacks]?

MM: What I found out is—I didn’t witness it—from the car I was in, I saw the location of a mine explosion on the way. It is obvious that ARSA has influence over local Muslim people. When I interviewed Muslim sources about ARSA, they were reluctant to answer. We must understand this. I also understand this, so I don’t disclose the identity of Muslim sources. Because if they criticize the government—they are businessmen and educated—it could impact their long-term relations [with the government]. But on the other hand, if they criticize ARSA and if we disclose their identity—there are previous examples of Muslim men beheaded after they gave interviews to the government. The situation is dangerous for them in the conflict zone.

KZM: Do you think this conflict will go on?

MM: It is very likely that it will continue. An Islamic State, which is the ultimate goal of ARSA according to their online video clips, will continue the conflict. This is quite sure. And regarding the geographical location of Maungdaw, it is surrounded by three large Muslim villages. There are at least 30,000 people. Of them, only Myo Thugyi is gone and two others remain intact. No houses were burned and there was no conflict there. So, it is fair to say there is still some hope for remedy. But if the goal of an Islamic State is real and people from those villages join them, the problem will get worse.

KZM: Thank you for your contribution!
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seriously..!! u even watch the clip till the end... see what she said... Read this carefully... @Nilgiri
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lol Hindu people who run to BD is just very small part of hindu community who fled insides Myanmar with security cover.
Hindus from Latha Village in Maungdaw Township and Ngayantchaung Village in Buthidaung Township moved to a safer place
Submitted by Eleven on Fri, 09/01/2017 - 11:13

Photo credit: Commander-in-chief Office
Hindus from Latha Village in Maungdaw Township and Ngayantchaung Village in Buthidaung Township were moved to a safer place, announced the Commander-in-chief Office.

After terrorists’ attacks in northern Rakhine State on August 25, the Hindus in Latha Village have faced various threats from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists. Local Hindus reported their situation to the local Light infantry Division through the Maungdaw Township administrator this morning.

Security guards, township administrator and team then went to the village and met with village elders and brought 444 people from 70 Hindu families to the No.2 basic education high school in Maungdaw, the place safe from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists.

Similarly, security guards accompanied and moved 199 Hindus from Ward-9 in Ngayantchaung Village to Ward-4, a safe haven from ARSA Bengali extremist terrorists, according to the Commander-in-chief Office.
http://www.elevenmyanmar.com/local/11380
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Lol, if someone doesn't agree with you he/she becomes "brainwashed"? You're a pure faggot...

Stop your propaganda and come with neutral source you faggot...

 

[TopCat]

This only proves that, Buddhist vigilante and their tamil coolies pretending as muslim came to their house.
But a person facing the death sure know in which way they need to run and save their life. Our media will not fabricate anything but present things unedited. We are a neutral party in this conflict.

 

[Major Sam]

Incorrect. India is concerned with the changing demography. As it is, we have ample socio-economic disparity existing within the Indian system, additionally we do not have the resources to cope with Rohingyas, and Bangladeshis who are increasingly migrating into India in a search for better future.

Well you guys attacked East Pakistan bec alot of refugees were coming to India after opression done by Pak army. Now why double standard for Myanmer? that wat ur govt said at that time right?

 

[Shivani87]

India is too weak a country to help Myanmar. We also do not have the veto. We are only concerned with law and order on our border and excellent cooperation by Myanmar in dealing with our militants.

China OTOH has the strongest relationship with MM and recently protected them in the UN using their veto. The last thing they will allow is rise of islamic militancy / terrorism in their sphere of influence.

Bangladeshis and pakistanis practically worship chinese and consider them the next best thing after slice bread. All they have to do is call on their best friend china and in a day china will deliver by telling MM to comply.

Why arent these islamist people from bd and pak asking china for a simple help? Why? Why?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Looks like Hindu Backstab on Bangladesh ..... ****ed from both sides


Bangalis will start to feel the VENOM sperad thru their veins slowly due to the backstabbers
Just goes to show why a strategy alignment is needed with Pakistan for Bangladesh's survival

 

[Banglar Bir]

We Are The People With Jacob Milton's post.

রোহিঙ্গ্যা নিধনের আড়ালে লুকিয়ে আছে ভারত আর ইসরায়েল এর
আলটিমেট গোল

বামিয়ান, আফগানিস্তানে যখন তালিবানরা মহামতি গৌতম বুদ্ধের মূর্তি ভেঙে ফেলে, তখন মাত্র ৯৬৯ জন অনুসারীদের নিয়ে BUDDHIST MONK WIRATHU এর প্রতিবাদ করে। সাথে সাথে মায়ানমার এর সামরিকজান্তা রোহিঙ্গ্যাদের দেশ থেকে বিতরণের সুযোগটি কাজে লাগায়। মায়ানমার এর সামরিকজান্তারা BUDDHIST MONK WIRATHU কে ডেকে রোহিঙ্গ্যা নিধনের সমগ্র ক্ষমতা প্রদান করে । সাথে সাথে BUDDHIST MONK WIRATHU কে রোহিঙ্গ্যা নিধনে সাহায্য করার জন্য মায়ানমার এর সামরিক এবং আধা সামরিক বাহিনীকে নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এ সময় ভারত তার কাশ্মীর এবং উলফা সমস্যা নিয়ে মহা ব্যস্ত। শত ব্যস্ততার মধ্যেও ভুলে যায়নি তাদের পুরানো খেলা।তারা সাফল্যের ১৯৭১ সালে পাকিস্তানকে ভেঙে দিয়েছে।তাদের বন্ধু ইসরায়েল মার্কিন তৈরী অস্ত্র এবং গোলাবারুদ তাদেরকে সরবরাহ করেছে। মার্কিনিরা ১৯৭১ সালে ইসরায়েল এর চাপেই পাকিস্তানকে সাহায্য না করে দূরে থেকেছে।ইসরায়েল এর প্রতি ভারত তার কৃতজ্ঞতা দেখাতে নিম্নোক্ত সিদ্ধান্তগুলো গ্রহণ করে:

১. ইসরায়েলকে মুসলিম বিশ্বে কিছুটা হলেও গ্রহণযোগ্য করা। (ইন্ডিয়া সৌদি ওয়াহাবী রাজাকে ইসরায়েল এর সাথে সু-সম্পর্ক তৈরী করতে সাহায্য করেছে।
২. ইসরায়েলী পণ্য সামগ্রী রফতানীর ক্ষেত্রে সাহায্য করা।
৩. প্যালেস্টাইনীদের পক্ষে কোনো কথা না বলা।
৪. ইহুদী এবং হিন্দুদের বানোয়াট ডক্ট্রিন মুসলিম নিধনে একে অপরকে সাহায্য করা।
৫. দুই দেশের প্রতিরক্ষা এবং পররাষ্ট্রনীতিতে একে অপরকে সাহায্য করা।
৬. অন্যান্য

১৯৪৭ সাল থেকে ভারতের স্বপ্ন তৎকালীন পূর্ব পাকিস্তান আর আজকের বাংলাদেশকে তাদের দেশভুক্ত করা।কাশ্মীরের হিন্দু রাজা আর সিকিম এর লেন্দুপ দর্জিকে দিয়ে কাশ্মীর এবং সিকিম অতি সহজেই হজম করা গেলেও বাংলাদেশ নিয়ে তারা বিপাকে পরে।বাংলাদেশের মহান জাতীয়তাবাদী নেতা শেখ মুজিবর রহমানকে তারা লেন্দুপ দর্জি বানাতে পারেনি। কিন্তু তারা সক্ষম হয়েছিল তার চারপাশের ৯৫% আওয়ামী লীগ নেতা এবং ছাত্র নেতাদেরকে ক্রয় করতে। মহান নেতা শেখ মুজিবকে সরিয়ে দেয়ার পর তারা মনে করেছিল তাদের রাস্তা খোলা। কিন্তু শেখ মুজিবের মতো আরেক মহান জাতীয়তাবাদী নেতা জিয়াউর রহমান এসে দেশের হাল ধরলেন। বাংলাদেশকে সত্যিকার অর্থে একটা স্বাধীন দেশ হিসেবে গড়ে তুললেন। তাকেও সরিয়ে দেয়া হলো। এর পরের ইতিহাস সকলেরই জানা।বাংলাদেশ তার সার্বোভৌমত্তকে কোনো রকম টিকিয়ে রাখলেও ২০০৯ সালে হাসিনা শেখের বদান্যতায় ভারত তাদের ১৯৪৭ সালের স্বপ্ন পূরণের প্রকৃত সুযোগ পেয়ে যায়। আজ আমরা সেখানেই দাড়িয়ে।

আমাদের ভুলে গেলে চলবে না যে বাংলাদেশের পার্বত্য এলাকার জঙ্গীরা ভারত এবং মায়ানমার এর তৈরী। যারা শান্তিবাহিনী নাম পরিচিত। আমরা কতবড় গরু হলে মনে করি যে স্বাধীনতার যুদ্ধে ভারত আমাদেরকে সাহায্য করেছে অথচ কেউই মুখ খুলে বলি না যে বাংলাদেশে বিচ্ছিন্নতাবাদী সশস্ত্র সন্ত্রাসী শান্তিবাহিনী ভারতেরই দেয়া প্রথম উপহার।

মিয়ানমারের বাৎসরিক বাজেট এর এক তৃতীয়াংশ ভারতের বিনিয়োগ । মিয়ানমারের বৈদেশিক বিনিয়োগের অর্ধেকের বেশি আসে ইন্ডিয়ার কাছ থেকে। গত দুই যুগেরও বেশী সময় ধরে মায়ানমার পৃথিবী থেকে বিচ্ছিন্ন থাকলেও ভারত এবং ইসরায়েল এর কাছ থেকে বিচ্ছিন্ন ছিল না।আর এজন্যই মায়ানমার এর শাসক গোষ্ঠীর উপর ভারতের প্রভাব পৃথিবীর সকলের চেয়ে বেশী। আবার ভারতের বদৌলতে ইসরায়েল এর ও রয়েছে বিশেষ প্রভাব।

গত দুইযুগের ও বেশী সময় ধরে ভারতের পরিকল্পনা নিম্নরূপ:

১. বাংলাদেশকে পৃথিবীর কাছ থেকে বিচ্ছিন্ন করা
২. বাংলাদেশে তাবেদার সরকার প্রতিষ্ঠা করা।
৩. বাংলাদেশের প্রতিটি সেক্টরকে ভারতের কন্ট্রোলে নেয়া।
৪. বাংলাদেশে নিযুক্ত তাবেদার সরকার ভারতের সবকিছুতে হ্যা না বললে নিম্নোক্ত কার্যক্রম দ্বারা চাপ প্রয়োগ করা

** ফারাক্কার পানি নিয়ে টালবাহানা করা অথবা পানিতে ডুবিয়ে অথবা পানি ছাড়া বাংলাদেশের মানুষকে অসহায় করা।
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** বাংলাদেশের পুলিশ এবং RABকে পুরোপুরি জনগণের শত্রুতে রূপান্তরিত করা
** বাংলাদেশের সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মুসলমানদেরকে জঙ্গী বানিয়ে ধীরে ধীরে তাদেরকে সমাজচ্যুত করা।
** শান্তিবাহিনীর সন্তু লারমাকে দিয়ে পার্বত্য এলাকায় সহিংস কার্যকলাপ চালিয়ে যাওয়া।
** মিয়ানমারকে দিয়ে রোহিঙ্গ্যাদের মেরে বাংলাদেশ রিফিউজী সমস্যা তৈরী করা।
উপরোক্ত কাজগুলো সম্পন্ন হলে ভারত লাভবান হবে নিম্নোক্ত বিষয়গুলোতে:
** বাংলাদেশের স্থল, জল এবং আকাশসীমা ব্যবহার করে ভারত তাদের প্রতিরক্ষা এবং যাতায়াত খাতের খরচ অর্ধেক এ নিয়ে এসেছে।
** বাণিজ্যে ভারতীয়দের সামগ্রীর সরবরাহ বেশী হওয়ায় বাংলাদেশী সামগ্রীগুলো বিক্রী হচ্ছে না বিধায় তাদের তৈরী প্রতিষ্ঠানগুলোকে দেউলিয়া হয়ে যাচ্ছে।
** বাংলাদেশের অর্থনীতি, বাণিজ্যনীতি,প্রতিরক্ষা নীতি,পররাষ্ট্রনীতি ভারতের দ্বারা চালিত।
** বাংলাদেশের ভূখণ্ড ব্যবহার করে আসামের বিচ্ছিন্নতাবাদীদেরকে কঠিন হস্তে দমন করা হয়েছে।
** কাশ্মীরে দাঙ্গা শুরু হলেই মিয়ানমারকে দিয়ে রোহিঙ্গ্যাদের মেরে ফেলে বিশ্বের দৃষ্টি ঘুরিয়ে দেয়া হয়।

আমি বহুদিন ধরে বলে আসছি যে দক্ষিণ এশিয়ায় ইস্রায়েল এর উপস্থিতির বেনেফিশারী ভারত। ইসরায়েল দক্ষিণ এশিয়ায় ভারতের স্বার্থ রক্ষা করে তাদের বাণিজ্য এবং মুসলিম নিধন চালিয়ে যাচ্ছে।হাসিনা শেখ যখন মোসাদের কথা বলে বিএনপি'র আসলাম চৌধুরীকে ধরেছিলো তখনি বলেছিলাম যে মোসাদ এবং RAW লাইক ব্লাড ব্রাদার।

রোহিঙ্গ্যা সমস্যা ভারত এবং ইস্রায়েলীদের দ্বারা তৈরী একটি কৃত্তিম সমস্যা।বাংলাদেশের সাথে মায়ানমার এর ভালো সম্পর্ক ভারতের স্বার্থের পরিপন্থী। বাংলাদেশের তিনদিক ঘিরে রেখেছে ভারত। এশিয়ান ট্রান্স হাইওয়ে বাংলাদেশের সাথে সংযুক্ত হলে ভারত অনেক কিছু হারাবে যা তারা কোনোদিনই হতে দেবে না। সুতরাং মিয়ানমারের বৌদ্ধ জঙ্গীরা যখন নিরপরাধ রোহিঙ্গ্যাদের ভারতীয়দের সহায়তায় এবং ইসরায়েল এর তৈরী অস্ত্রের দ্বারা নির্বিচারে হত্যা করে তখন AUNG SAN SUU KYI'র যে খুব একটা কিছু করার আছে আমি তা মনে করি না।

ভারতের এক কথায় রোহিঙ্গ্যা নিধন বন্ধ হবে যা ভারত কখনোই বলবে না। ভারত হাসিনা শেখকেও মিয়ানমারের বিরুদ্ধে কিছু বলতে বা করতে দিবে না। এমনকি মিয়ানমার সরকারের সাথেও হাসিনা শেখকে একা কথা বলতে দেয়া হবে না।

অথচ, হাসিনা শেখ চাইলেই হতে পারে তার বাবার মতো যোগ্য নেতা। সঠিক সিদ্ধান্ত নিলে ইন্ডিয়াকে ওভারকাম করা খুব একটা কঠিন হবে না। তার ক্ষমতাও থাকবে, রোহিঙ্গ্যারাও তাদের দেশে ভালো থাকবে। এই মুহূর্তে নিরপেক্ষ নির্বাচনে হাসিনা শেখ গোপালগঞ্জে ও হেরে যাবে। কিন্তু সঠিক সিদ্ধান্ত নিলে হাসিনা শেখ শুধু ক্ষমতায় থাকবে না, পাঁচ আসনের সব কোটি আসনেই সে জিতবে।

কিন্তু হাসিনা শেখ কখন সঠিক সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়েছে ?

Jacob Milton
We Are The People
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.810390
http://www.refworld.org/docid/46a75e132.html

 

[Banglar Bir]

Why is Modi backing Suu Kyi on Rohingya issue?
Ranjan Basu, Delhi
Published at 03:24 PM September 08, 2017
Last updated at 08:04 PM September 08, 2017

India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Myanmar's State Counselor Aung San Suu Kyi talk to reporters during their joint press conference in the Presidential Palace in Naypyitaw, September 6, 2017Reuters
India wants to improve its economic ties with Myanmar as part of its 'Act East' policy and push back against Chinese influence
Narendra Modi has kept mum on the plight of Rohingyas during his three-day Myanmar visit but said India shared Myanmar’s concern about “extremist violence” in its Rakhine state.

Indian observers say Modi’s announcement did not come as a surprise since it is only natural for India to prioritise business ties and strategy in its relations with Myanmar.

Modi visited Myanmar amid an army crackdown in the Rakhine that has so far forced an estimated 270,000 Rohingya refugees fleeing into Bangladesh.

Refugees and rights groups say hundreds of Rohingya have been killed in the military operation triggered by insurgents’ August 25 attack on dozens of police posts and an army base.

Myanmar denies the claims. Naypyitaw does not recognise the Rohingya, considered to be one of the most persecuted communities in the world, as its citizens, and sees them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh.

Almost all the diplomats, researchers and analysts the Bangla Tribune interviewed in Delhi said that Modi did not speak a word about the Rohingya crisis as India was desperate to improve its economic ties with resource-rich Myanmar.

India also refused to sign a global declaration adopted at an international conclave on Thursday as it referred to the violence against Rohingya.
‘Act East’ policy
Myanmar is India’s first stoppage in its Act East policy. Delhi is also keen to strengthen business ties with ASEAN members and considers Naypyitaw its gateway to Southeast Asia.

Naypyitaw is also Delhi’s partner in BIMSTEC.

India’s bilateral trade with Myanmar has grown to about $2.2 billion and Delhi has invested heavily in connectivity projects through Myanmar – one of them is a trilateral highway passing through Myanmar to Thailand – but these projects have moved slowly.

Former Indian ambassador to Myanmar VS Seshadri explained that India has so much stake in Myanmar in business and connectivity that Delhi cannot afford bitterness with Naypyitaw at any cost.

“Good relations with Myanmar is the first and most important condition for the success of our Act East policy,” he said.
The Chinese factor
Myanmar’s relations with China has improved further since Aung San Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy came to power. She travelled to Beijing after becoming the state counsellor.

China is also mediating peace talks between Myanmar and various armed communities. Beijing is also constructing Kyauk Pyu port and has set up gas pipelines up to Kunming.

Times of India’s Diplomatic Editor Indrani Bagchi said the situation has been gradually changing.

Myanmar is giving India a clear signal that it wants to maintain a balance between Delhi and Beijing because both are very important neighbours for Naypyitaw.

India sees this as an excellent opportunity to rekindle an old friendship, all the while pushing back against Chinese influence on Myanmar, she said.

Delhi will never want uncomfortable issues like violence against Rohingyas to cast a shadow on this scenario, Baghchi said.
Stability in the Rakhine
India is constructing the Kaladan Multi-Modal Transit Transport Project at a cost of nearly $500 million through Rakhine, to directly connect India’s northeast with the Bay of Bengal.

It involves developing a port, an inland waterways terminal and a road. It can also serve as an alternative if Bangladesh ever refuses to give India transit.

Geopolitical stability in the region is a must for realising this important project.

Delhi has nearly finished the Sittwe port work where the Kaladan project starts. But construction of the Mizoram road through thick forest at the end of the Kaladan river path is stuck.

Gautam Mukhopadhaya, who retired last year after serving as Indian ambassador to Myanmar, said the 2012 violence in Rakhine pushed back the Kaladan project.

Almost all the labourers or local engineers working in the project were local Muslims who were forced to flee after violence erupted.

So, India needs peace and stability in the Rakhine for the sake of the Kaladan project, he added.
Anti-militant operations
Four Indian states – Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland, Monipur, and Mizoram – share nearly 1,643km border with Myanmar.

Many northeastern extremist groups have hideouts in the deep forests along the border.

India has long been conducting anti-militant operations in these areas and at times, even struck the militants inside Myanmar. It is clear that such operations are not possible without Naypyitaw’s consent and assistance.

Delhi has no other option but to maintain this cooperation with Myanmar to maintain peace in its northeast.

Delhi-based strategic thinktank Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis’ researcher Gautam Sen pointed out that most of the insurgent groups like the NSCN or Ulfa, who are fighting against India, have hideouts or training camps in the Myanmar jungles.

“So, the assistance of Myanmar, and particularly of its army, is very important for India to eliminate these [insurgents],” he added.
This article was first published in Bangla Tribune
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/south-asia/2017/09/08/modi-backing-suu-kyi-rohingya-issue/

 

[Hellfire]

Well you guys attacked East Pakistan bec alot of refugees were coming to India after opression done by Pak army. Now why double standard for Myanmer? that wat ur govt said at that time right?

Bangladesh was an opportunity provided by Pakistan to cut it to size. There is no rephrasing it. The size of displaced Bangladeshis was also in million plus not a couple of tens of thousands. Even then it was the demographic issue.

Additionally, India has learnt it's lessons of refugees from then on. We are not interested in changing our demography.

Something for you:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1357218/global-split-over-rohingya-crisis-as-china-backs-myanmar-crackdown


Everywhere you will find Islamists creating problems. Read the story here too.

Look at what is happening in middle east and as an extension, in Europe. Guess which religious affiliations these nut cases have?

Islam has become a tool in hands of every idiot. The term Islamic terror today encompasses not an attempt at linking religion to terror but to underline the propensity to use terror in name of religion.

The Turks did this long back in history and justified conquests, mass murders and rapes as being in name of religion.

So, in a nutshell, we do not need repackaged history of same shit over again.

 

[Banglar Bir]

 

[Banglar Bir]

মিয়ানমারে জাতিসংঘের নিষেধাজ্ঞা ঠেকাতে ভারতের কূটনৈতিক তৎপরতা
Indian Hectic Diplomatic lobbying to stop imposition of Sanctions on Myanmar

13 Sep, 2017
নিউ ইয়র্কে আগামী সপ্তাহে জাতিসংঘের সাধারণ পরিষদের অধিবেশনে মিয়ানমারের বিরুদ্ধে যেকোনও আন্তর্জাতিক নিষেধাজ্ঞার প্রস্তাব ঠেকানোর লক্ষ্যে পর্দার অন্তরালে জোরালো কূটনৈতিক তৎপরতা শুরু করেছে ভারত।পাশাপাশি রোহিঙ্গা শরণার্থীদের স্রোত সামলাতে বাংলাদেশকে সাহায্য করার ব্যাপারেও এ তৎপরতা চালাচ্ছে দেশটি।

ভারতের পররাষ্ট্র মন্ত্রণালয়ের শীর্ষ পর্যায়ের একটি সূত্র জানিয়েছে, রোহিঙ্গা সংকট ভারতকে এক নজিরবিহীন ‘ডিপ্লোম্যাটিক ডিলেমা’র (কূটনৈতিক দ্বিধা) মধ্যে ফেলে দিয়েছে ।কারণ, এই সংকটকে কেন্দ্র করে বাংলাদেশ ও মিয়ানমার প্রায় মুখোমুখি অবস্থানে চলে এসেছে। অথচ এই দুই প্রতিবেশীর সঙ্গেই ভারতের দ্বিপাক্ষিক সম্পর্ক খুব ভাল। এই পরিস্থিতিতে দুই দেশের সঙ্গেই সুসম্পর্ক বজায় রেখে ভারত কিভাবে রোহিঙ্গা প্রশ্নে নিজেদের ভূমিকা রাখতে পারে, এখন তা চূড়ান্ত করার চেষ্টা চলছে। এ ক্ষেত্রে ভারতের লক্ষ্য হলো- এমন একটা ফর্মুলা প্রস্তাব করা, যা মিয়ানমার ও বাংলাদেশ উভয় দেশেরই স্বার্থরক্ষা করে এবং দু’পক্ষের কাছেই গ্রহণযোগ্য হয়।

কূটনৈতিক মহলে ভারতের এমন প্রচেষ্টায় বিভিন্ন দিকের আভাস পাওয়া যাচ্ছে। ১৯ সেপ্টেম্বর থেকে জাতিসংঘের সাধারণ পরিষদের (ইউএনজিএ) অধিবেশনে যে বিতর্ক শুরু হবে, সেখানে ওআইসি (অর্গানাইজেশন অব ইসলামিক কান্ট্রিজ) ভুক্ত বিভিন্ন দেশ মিয়ানমারে রোহিঙ্গা নির্যাতনের বিরুদ্ধে সরব হতে পারে। এমনকি মিয়ানমারের বিরুদ্ধে আন্তর্জাতিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা আরোপেরও প্রস্তাব আসতে পারে। সেক্ষেত্রে ভারত সর্বশক্তি দিয়ে সেই প্রস্তাবের বিরোধিতা করবে।

নিরাপত্তা পরিষদে এ ধরনের কোনও প্রস্তাব যদি ওঠে, আর চীন তাতে ভেটো দেবে এটাও ভারতের একরকম জানাই আছে। কিন্তু ভারত মিয়ানমারকে একটা স্পষ্ট বার্তা দিতে চায় যে, রোহিঙ্গা প্রশ্নে তারা বরাবরের মতোই পুরোপুরি মিয়ানমারের পাশে আছে। মিয়ানমারের বিরুদ্ধে ওআইসি দেশগুলো কতটা কঠোর অবস্থান নিতে চায়, সেটা আঁচ করতে ভারতের পররাষ্ট্র প্রতিমন্ত্রী এম জে আকবর ইতোমধ্যেই তাদের সঙ্গে যোগাযোগ রেখে চলেছেন।

এছাড়া, রোহিঙ্গা সংকটকে ঘিরে নরেন্দ্র মোদির নীরবতায় বাংলাদেশে যে তীব্র ক্ষোভ ও হতাশা তৈরি হয়েছে, সে বিষয়েও ভারত অবহিত। দিল্লিতে নিযুক্ত বাংলাদেশি রাষ্ট্রদূত সৈয়দ মোয়াজ্জেম আলী দু’দিন আগেই এ ব্যাপারে তাদের (বাংলাদেশের) উদ্বেগের কথা ভারতের পররাষ্ট্র সচিব এস জয়শঙ্করকে জানিয়ে দিয়েছেন। এরপরই নতুন করে একটি বিবৃতিতে রাখাইন স্টেট থেকে শরণার্থীদের ঢল নামার বিষয়ে ভারত উদ্বেগ ব্যক্ত করে। কিন্তু ওই বিবৃতিতেও রোহিঙ্গাদের ওপর নির্যাতনের ব্যাপারে কোনও উচ্চবাচ্য করেনি ভারত।

এই পরিস্থিতিতে ভারত চাইছে, লাখ লাখ রোহিঙ্গা শরণার্থীকে সামলানোর বিষয়ে বাংলাদেশ যাতে সব ধরনের আন্তর্জাতিক সহযোগিতা পায়, তা নিশ্চিত করা। এই সাহায্য শুধু আর্থিক সহায়তা বা ত্রাণসামগ্রী দিয়েই নয়, পশ্চিমা বিশ্বের দেশগুলো যাতে কিছু কিছু রোহিঙ্গা শরণার্থীকে আশ্রয় দেয়, ভারত সেই দাবিও তুলতে পারে।

দিল্লিতে সাউথ ব্লকের একটি সূত্রের মাধ্যমে জানা যায়, ‘সিরিয়া-ইরাকের শরণার্থীদের যদি ইউরোপের সব দেশ নিজেদের মধ্যে ভাগাভাগি করে আশ্রয় দিতে পারে, এমনকি তারা কানাডা-যুক্তরাষ্ট্রেও যেতে পারেন, তাহলে রোহিঙ্গা শরণার্থীদের ক্ষেত্রেও তা করতে অসুবিধা কোথায়?’

অথচ, এক্ষেত্রে সমস্যা হলো, ভারত নিজেই ঘোষণা করেছে- এ দেশে বসবাসকারী চল্লিশ হাজারেরও বেশি রোহিঙ্গা শরণার্থীকে মিয়ানমারে ফেরত পাঠাতে চায়। স্বরাষ্ট্র প্রতিমন্ত্রী কিরেন রিজিজু পার্লামেন্টের ভেতরে ও বাইরে জানিয়ে দিয়েছেন, এই রোহিঙ্গারা অবৈধ অভিবাসী। ফলে তাদের ভারতে থাকার কোনও অধিকার নেই।

তবে পরিবর্তিত পরিস্থিতিতে ভারত সেই নীতি আপাতত স্থগিত রাখার কথা বিবেচনা করতে পারে।

অন্যদিকে, এ বছর সাধারণ পরিষদের অধিবেশনে মোদি যাচ্ছেন না । তার পরিবর্তে পররাষ্ট্রমন্ত্রী সুষমা স্বরাজ ভারতের প্রতিনিধিত্ব করবেন। বাংলাদেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনার সঙ্গে সুষমা স্বরাজের ব্যক্তিগত সমীকরণ অত্যন্ত মধুর। ভারত আশা করছে, স্বরাজ শেখ হাসিনার সঙ্গে একান্ত আলোচনায় রোহিঙ্গা প্রশ্নে ভারতের বাধ্যবাধকতার দিকটি তাকে বোঝাতে পারবেন ।

তবে এই কূটনৈতিক ভারসাম্য বিধানের পরিকল্পনা করা যত সহজ, বিষয়টি বাস্তবে করে দেখানো যে তার চেয়ে অনেক কঠিন , ভারতের পররাষ্ট্র মন্ত্রণালয়ের কর্মকর্তারা তা বিলক্ষণ জানেন।

উল্লেখ্য, সংঘাতপূর্ণ রাখাইন থেকে এ পর্যন্ত ৩ লাখ ৭০ হাজার মানুষ বাংলাদেশে পালিয়ে আশ্রয় নিয়েছে বলে জানিয়েছে জাতিসংঘ। এরই মধ্যেই মিয়ানমার সরকারের বিরুদ্ধে বেসামরিক নাগরিকদের সুরক্ষায় ব্যর্থতার অভিযোগ এনে দেশটিতে আইনের শাসন প্রতিষ্ঠার আহ্বান জানিয়েছে হোয়াইট হাউজ।

রাখাইনে রোহিঙ্গা অধ্যুষিত এলাকায় নতুন করে আগুন দেয়ার একটি ভিডিও প্রকাশ হয়েছে। সোমবার দক্ষিণাঞ্চলীয় মংডুর কয়েকটি বাড়ি জ্বালিয়ে দেওয়া হয় বলে পালিয়ে আসা শরণার্থীদের বরাতে রয়টার্স জানান। মিয়ানমারের সামরিক বাহিনীর বেসামরিক লোকজনকে হত্যার পাশাপাশি তাদের ঘর-বাড়ি পুড়িয়ে দিচ্ছে বলে জানায় রোহিঙ্গারা।

মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্টের হোয়াইট হাউসের মুখপাত্র সারা হাকাবি জানান, রাখাইনে অব্যাহত সংঘাতের ঘটনায় যুক্তরাষ্ট্র গভীরভাবে উদ্বিগ্ন। আমরা মিয়ানমারের নিরাপত্তা বাহিনীকে আইনের প্রতি শ্রদ্ধা দেখিয়ে চলার আহ্বান জানাচ্ছি। সেখানকার বেসামরিক নাগরিকদের সুরক্ষা নিশ্চিত করার পাশাপাশি দেশটির সরকারের উচিত দ্রুত রাখাইন কমিশনের সুপারিশগুলো বাস্তবায়ন করা উচিত।

এর মধ্যেই জোরালো হচ্ছে মিয়ানমারের স্টেট কাউন্সিলর অং সান সুচির নোবেল প্রত্যাহারের দাবি। এই দাবিতে যুক্তরাষ্ট্র ভিত্তিক ‘চেইঞ্জ ডট ওআরজি’ নামের একটি ওয়েবসাইটে পিটিশনে চার লাখের বেশি মানুষ স্বাক্ষর করেছে।
তথ্যসূত্র : বাংলা ট্রিবিউন ও ইনডিপেনডেন্ট টিভি
During the United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York scheduled for next week, India has started strong diplomatic efforts, behind the scenes, to prevent any International Sanctions Resolution against Myanmar. Besides, the country is also TRYING to help Bangladesh to handle the flow of Rohingya refugees.

A top-level source from the External Ministry of India stated that, the Rohingya crisis has put India in an unprecedented "diplomatic dilemma." Because of this crisis, Bangladesh and Myanmar have been in almost confrontational position. However, India's maintains strong bilateral relations with these two neighbors.

In this situation, India could maintain its role in the Rohingya question by maintaining her good relations with the two countries, which is what they are now i trying to finalize. In this case, India's goal is to make a acceptable formula that protects the interest of both the countries of Myanmar and Bangladesh and is agreable to both the States.

There is a glimpse of different aspects of India's efforts in diplomatic circles. During the debate at the UN General Assembly (UNGA) session beginning on September 19, numerous countries, including members of the OIC (Organization of Islamic Countries), could raise their voice and concern, against Myanmar's Rohingya repression. Even a proposal for international sanctions against Myanmar could be adopted. In this case, India will oppose the proposal, within her power.

If there is any such proposal put forth in the Security Council, China could veto the same, India also will state her position, on this issue. However, India wants to convey a clear message to Myanmar that the Indians are completely beside Myanmar on the Rohingya issue, as always. Indian Foreign Minister MJ Akbar has already been in touch with others, to realize how tough OIC countries position would be against Myanmar.

Besides, India also been informed about the intense anger and frustration that Narendra Modi's silence surrounding the Genocide or the Rohingya crisis. Bangladesh Ambassador to Delhi Syed Moazzem Ali told India's Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar about the deep concern of Bangladesh (Bangladesh) about this was two days ago. Subsequently, in a fresh statement, India expressed her concern about the induction of refugees from the Rakhine State.However, in this statement, India has retained her ambiguity about the Genocide on Rohingyas and the crisis,itself

Under these prevailing circumstances, India wants to ensure that Bangladesh receives all types of International Cooperation in dealing with millions of Rohingya refugees. This assistance, is meant not only in terms of financial assistance or relief, but that the Western world should provide shelter to some of these Rohingya refugees, India could also place her demand for this.

According to the source in South Block in Delhi, "If all the European countries could provide limited shelter to the Syrian-Iraq refugees,and they were also eligible to seek refuge in Canada and the United States,in this case, for the Rohingya refugees why would it be difficult for to do so?"

However, the main problem lies in the fact, that India herself has declared that -India will deport more than forty thousand Rohingyas refugees, people living in india, and that they were to return back to Myanmar. Minister of State for Home Kiran Rijiju has said that both, within and outside the parliament that the Rohingyas are illegal immigrants. As a result, they have no right to stay in India.

However, in the changed circumstances, India may consider delaying the policy for the time being.

On the other hand, Modi is not going to this year's General Assembly session. Instead, Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj will represent India. Sushma Swaraj's personal equation with Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina is very sweet. India is hoping to convince Swaraj of India's obligation on Rohingya issue in private negotiations with Sheikh Hasina.

It is as rather difficult in maintaining this delicate diplomatic balance, in reality, it is much more complex and harder ask,and the External Ministry officials are aware of these new challenges. India understands these very well.

It is to be noted that, during the conflict in Rakhine, 3,70,000 people have fled to Bangladesh, so far. Meanwhile, the White House has called for the establishment of the rule of law in the country by allegations of failing to protect civilians against the Myanmar government.

A video has been published in the Rakhine Rohingya area. On Monday, some houses in Maungdaw have been burned, Reuters told refugees fleeing refugees. Myanmar's army is burning civilians as well as killing their civilians, said Rohingya, according to Rohingya.

United States White House spokesman Sarah Hakabie said that the United States is deeply concerned about the continuing conflict in Rakhine. "We urge Myanmar security forces to show respect for the law". In addition to ensuring the safety of civilians there, the government should implement the recommendations of the Rakhine Commission quickly.

Meanwhile, demanding for withdrawal of Myanmar State Councilor Aung San Suu Kyi's Nobel, more than 400,000 people have signed a petition on this website, United States based 'Change.org ORG'.
References: The Bengali Tribune and Independent TV
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