Why Russian aircrafts are falling down in India

[ayesha.a]

Can we call it an asian record will u admit it then

No, because PLAAF does not release statistics of crashes. You could call it an Asian record for countries that publicize crash info - and that wouldn't be too surprising, since IAF is quite easily the largest air force that does so in S Asia. The reason would be the same as why USAF and USN have thousands of crashes - because they fly a lot of planes, and fly very often.

If you want to check out the crash rate per flying hour, you will find that IAF's crash record is not very different from other major air forces. (0.22 per 10,000 hours, IIRC.) If you exclude mig-21s, then the stats are arguably even impressive.

 

[AFlover]

No, because PLAAF does not release statistics of crashes. You could call it an Asian record for countries that publicize crash info - and that wouldn't be too surprising, since IAF is quite easily the largest air force that does so in S Asia. The reason would be the same as why USAF and USN have thousands of crashes - because they fly a lot of planes, and fly very often.

If you want to check out the crash rate per flying hour, you will find that IAF's crash record is not very different from other major air forces. (0.22 per 10,000 hours, IIRC.) If you exclude mig-21s, then the stats are arguably even impressive.

Agreed! but as per the published data in asia even, india stands first
For china since there is no published we can't assume china had more crashs
As per the details available on the internet plz check the countries that had a figure as 1000+
I agree that flying hours are higher but it also points three directions
1- techonology
2-poor pilot training or pilot error
3-poor maintenance
By the how many were crashed due to b ird strike

 

[ayesha.a]

Agreed! but as per the published data in asia even, india stands first
For china since there is no published we can't assume china had more crashs
As per the details available on the internet plz check the countries that had a figure as 1000+
I agree that flying hours are higher but it also points three directions
1- techonology
2-poor pilot training or pilot error
3-poor maintenance
By the how many were crashed due to b ird strike

There are plenty of reasons for crashes, including the ones you mentioned. But the point is that India does not have a much worse rate than other major air forces, if you look at crashes per flight hour. (That takes into account number of planes and number of flying hours of each, but not the age of the plane.) Even while operating a very large fleet of ancient, non FBW, difficult to handle jets, IAF's crash record is not abnormally high. And definitely not a world record, not even close.

 

[AFlover]

There are plenty of reasons for crashes, including the ones you mentioned. But the point is that India does not have a much worse rate than other major air forces, if you look at crashes per flight hour. (That takes into account number of planes and number of flying hours of each, but not the age of the plane.) Even while operating a very large fleet of ancient, non FBW, difficult to handle jets, IAF's crash record is not abnormally high. And definitely not a world record, not even close.

What if u compare IAF vs other major a AFs in terms of crash per squarden in last 20years?

 

[ayesha.a]

What if u compare IAF vs other major a AFs in terms of crash per squarden in last 20years?

That's what I said - not crash per squadron, but crash per flying hour. If another country has the same number of squadrons, but flies a lot more, they are likely to have more crashes. If they do not fly at all, they will have zero crashes. IAF's crash rate in 2013 was 2.2 per 10,000 hours.

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It's crash rate in the 90s was much lower, because most of the aircrafts were newer. In the 2000s, the aircrafts were ageing, and MKIs were only just being inducted, which is one reason for the increased rate.