Why russia is offering pak its best weapons

[silent poison]

i was thinking for some days and came up that
Russia is not foolish that it will sell weapons and will lose Indian defense market share
BUT they are most intelligent
but if u see that if pakistan buy weapons from russia then many arab countries would buy and they would gain more profit
just like pak buying weapons from china and countries like Egypt bought it and even Chinese missile were bought buy ksa even though Chinese thing are recognized as degraded in Arab world but after pak bought it many Arab world did it

so in my opinion i would say russia is selling pak its weapons because pakistan will pave road for russia to sell its weapon to arab world amd make trple profit
@MastanKhan

Lol dont follow MastankKhan Too much his theories will only lead you to the Side where you will sound Stupid to the world .

Anyway beside your illogical reasoning the real reason could be The Need of Pakistan when Russian forces if needed arrives in Afghanistan Again ! Pakistan Control Taliban is a well known fact .

Kabul seeks Moscow’s help against Taliban | Russia & India Report

The author is a political analyst and expert from the Russian Council on International Affairs and a specialist on Afghanistan and Central Asian countries.

And Second for the comments on Thread ; the Deal India signed in One year with Russia only is not even near by to what Pakistani defence Budget is .

Russia is an all-weather friend for India: Parrikar | Russia & India Report

So , Case Close .

 

[bdslph]

major purchase is not done in Russia any more India is looking into other countries
Russia is now opening up to Pakistan which is good
there are weapons which will not be sold to Pakistan
but there weapons which Pakistan can buy and look into it

 

[zebra7]

Lol dont follow MastankKhan Too much his theories will only lead you to the Side where you will sound Stupid to the world .

Anyway beside your illogical reasoning the real reason could be The Need of Pakistan when Russian forces if needed arrives in Afghanistan Again ! Pakistan Control Taliban is a well known fact .

Whatever you think about @MastanKhan atleast he is a thinker than copy paster, and don't mind to express his view freely. Even I don't agree with his most of his ideas and vision, but in reality he thinks and sometime have great ideas, though it seems stupid to some people but he had some point, and his views needs little bit polish during expression.
I like him, because he is expresses beyond patrioism sometime, even with bashing of his country men or the Indians nothing have changed Mastan Khan.

just asking what do you manufacture yourself ... i mean your nation

@waz , @Irfan Baloch , @Slav Defence @Oscar


why mods sir why are the rules of flaming and troll baiting diffrent for pakistanies and indian posters

We are guest here Sir.

 

[silent poison]

Whatever you think about @MastanKhan atleast he is a thinker than copy paster, and don't mind to express his view freely. Even I don't agree with his most of his ideas and vision, but in reality he thinks and sometime have great ideas, though it seems stupid to some people but he had some point, and his views needs little bit polish during expression.
I like him, because he is expresses beyond patrioism sometime, even with bashing of his country men or the Indians nothing have changed Mastan Khan.

Copy paste ? Lol ok be a fan i dont insulted anyone and neither want to probably you must be follower of his theories but the thing that is so contradict by past and future is what i want to keepDistance from . And Plz if you like the reason provided comment on it .

If wannabe a fan be a fan of Amardeep Mishra type guys who bring sense not some mental Problem !

 

[zebra7]

Copy paste ? Lol ok be a fan i dont insulted anyone and neither want to probably you must be follower of his theories but the thing that is so contradict by past and future is what i want to keepDistance from . And Plz if you like the reason provided comment on it .

Well my advice to you and all the Indians, don't miss Mastan Khan view on the topic. Its not only the expert or the contradiction of what he state, but the points hidden in its views. Take for example for long he was giving an idea of J7b as the truck load of BVR to counter IAF. Many of the experts of Pakistani Members attacked and bashed him, but he had the valid point, BVR load with a simple plane is more effective than the 4++ gen with limited BVR, to foil the IAF mission, its been proved with the study of Japanese Airforce study. Don't go for J7B or Su35 or even Boeing 747 with BVR on its pylon, but the Idea which is no doubt superb.

 

[silent poison]

Well my advice to you and all the Indians, don't miss Mastan Khan view on the topic. Its not only the expert or the contradiction of what he state, but the points hidden in its views. Take for example for long he was giving an idea of J7b as the truck load of BVR to counter IAF. Many of the experts of Pakistani Members attacked and bashed him, but he had the valid point, BVR load with a simple plane is more effective than the 4++ gen with limited BVR, to foil the IAF mission, its been proved with the study of Japanese Airforce study. Don't go for J7B or Su35 or even Boeing 747 with BVR on its pylon, but the Idea which is no doubt superb.

And what about his theory on Division of India ? Anyway are you referring To Mig-21 Copy not a Fan of Chinese Military !

But if yes then no doubt Mig-21 Bison in IAF has Proved his metal in BVR Fights ( Simulated once ) but , the reason the idea is not so osm is that The Airframe is too old for PAF to do such costly upgrades in all Mig-21 (They need to be phased out at any cost )

 

[MastanKhan]

And what about his theory on Division of India ? Anyway are you referring To Mig-21 Copy not a Fan of Chinese Military !

But if yes then no doubt Mig-21 Bison in IAF has Proved his metal in BVR Fights ( Simulated once ) but , the reason the idea is not so osm is that The Airframe is too old for PAF to do such costly upgrades in all Mig-21 (They need to be phased out at any cost )

Hi,

So--it upset you because I talk about splitting your country----. What happens when you guys talk about splitting my country----.

At first I was going to write a harsh reply---but then I saw your age----you are just a BABY---- still so innocent---just like my kids---.

Kid you really have no clue yet about the world that you are living in.

 

[zebra7]

And what about his theory on Division of India ? Anyway are you referring To Mig-21 Copy not a Fan of Chinese Military !

But if yes then no doubt Mig-21 Bison in IAF has Proved his metal in BVR Fights ( Simulated once ) but , the reason the idea is not so osm is that The Airframe is too old for PAF to do such costly upgrades in all Mig-21 (They need to be phased out at any cost )

His division of india based on the religion gives me insight of how an average pakistani thinks about India, and the conditions of the muslims in India. It allow me get inside the brain of the one who think that a muslim is always different from the rest. It allow me to understand how misconception they have about the muslims conditions, which is tilted toward the condition of the Muslim in India, which shows what are the effect of the propaganda of years the pakistani citizen have lived, which asked for a seperate country in India for the Muslims, but somehow forgot the same for the Rohingas in Mayanmar. They have so much sympathy toward the Muslim killed during Gujrat roit, but never expresses any feeling toward the one who were burned alive in the Train in Gujrat, after which the riot errupted. It helps me understand that how I am lucky to be born in India, rather than in Pakistan, otherwise i would also have been thinking the same.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

His division of india based on the religion gives me insight of how an average pakistani thinks about India, and the conditions of the muslims in India. It allow me get inside the brain of the one who think that a muslim is always different from the rest. It allow me to understand how misconception they have about the muslims conditions, which is tilted toward the condition of the Muslim in India, which shows what are the effect of the propaganda of years the pakistani citizen have lived, which asked for a seperate country in India for the Muslims,

Is that why it's your country making weird movies about Pakistanis?(Muslims)... (And Indian Muslims themselves - who are even called Pakistanis and prove their loyalty - in movies )...Why more Indians are present on this (Pak forum) than Pakistanis themselves... Or maybe it's Coz of all the news of killings of minorities,videos of Hindus beating,killing n forcing Muslims to say Hindu prayers etc ?

Or maybe it's Coz of the hostility you ppl tend to display on this forum against muslims? I've seen Hindu extremists not just supporting the killings and violence but Infact encouraging it.... Post videos of violence against your own Indian muslims.. Etc etc.. And even spreading hatred against Indian Christians ... All on this very forum .


So tell us what an average guy would think of all that?

but somehow forgot the same for the Rohingas in Mayanmar. They have so much sympathy toward the Muslim killed during Gujrat roit, but never expresses any feeling toward the one who were burned alive in the Train in Gujrat, after which the riot errupted. It helps me understand that how I am lucky to be born in India, rather than in Pakistan, otherwise i would also have been thinking the same.

"Phunny" Pak has recieved and given asylum to over .6 million rohingyas and is one of the nations raising the issue at UN and other world forums..

As for the train incident... How many died on that and who knows who did it? And how many Muslims were killed in gujrat? Heard it was over 2000?

Haven't seen you guys say a word over similiar riots in your own country or the burning n massacre of Pak citizens in samjhuta express either.

 

[zebra7]

Is that why it's your country making weird movies about Pakistanis?(Muslims)... (And Indian Muslims themselves)...Why more Indians are present on this (Pak forum) than Pakistanis themselves... Or maybe it's Coz of all the news of killings of minorities,videos of Hindus beating,killing n forcing Muslims to say Hindu prayers etc ?

desert fighter this answer was not meant for you instead my countrymen poster. But since you quoted me here you go.

1. Which Movie-- entertainment movies are made by the film industries, and Indian govt don't direct them what they should make. Even Pakistani movies are also made in similar fashion with Pakistani hero fight against the evil RAW.

2. Why Indians are present on this forum more, a good saying is that I can only control my action not others, so I can give you my reason which is know more about pakistani view, and interest in defense related development. I am an Engineer and during my college training I got opportunity to work in the defense PSU for some time.

3. News of killings of minorities, think unbiased you are more concerned about muslims, and in some corner to hurt india or defame india. Tell me one thing how many Riots hindu-muslim errupted in india during congress rule and how many during Bjp. A country such big as India many certain bad things do happens, but there are more people in India which oppose these things than in Pakistan.
And the Prayer forced to the Muslim ---

Raghupati raghav Raja Ram, Patit Pawan Sita Ram
Ishwer Allah tere Naam, Sabko Sammati de Bhagwan.

Do you think that the prayer above is a hindu prayer.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

desert fighter this answer was not meant for you instead my countrymen poster. But since you quoted me here you go.

1. Which Movie-- entertainment movies are made by the film industries, and Indian govt don't direct them what they should make. Even Pakistani movies are also made in similar fashion with Pakistani hero fight against the evil RAW.

2. Why Indians are present on this forum more, a good saying is that I can only control my action not others, so I can give you my reason which is know more about pakistani view, and interest in defense related development. I am an Engineer and during my college training I got opportunity to work in the defense PSU for some time.

3. News of killings of minorities, think unbiased you are more concerned about muslims, and in some corner to hurt india or defame india. Tell me one thing how many Riots hindu-muslim errupted in india during congress rule and how many during Bjp. A country such big as India many certain bad things do happens, but there are more people in India which oppose these things than in Pakistan.
And the Prayer forced to the Muslim ---

Raghupati raghav Raja Ram, Patit Pawan Sita Ram
Ishwer Allah tere Naam, Sabko Sammati de Bhagwan.

Do you think that the prayer above is a hindu prayer.

I personally don't care about Indian Muslims ... Truely don't - not any more...

As for riots .. Do you really want that answer ? Visit muzafanagar or the families of the guys who were lynched to death..

A for Pak movies .. Hardly my man.. But even in that 1 people we didn't put a Pak Hindu and question his loyalty.. Call him an Indian and make him act stupid all in the name of loyality to the country.

As for forced to chant Hindu mantras.. Do you want videos ?

This is just 1 ... This video was also posted by an Indian member who was boasting about it...

A lot of such videos can be found on the Internet... Or even in PDF .. Most of whom poste by Indian members supporting this and even encouraging killings of Indian Muslims !

Also it seems from their posts that Indian Muslims are also the biggest menace fornindia ... And are rapists (yes they believe and say it all the time)... The amount of islamophobic and bigoted posts by your ppl here is amazing... Or try your own Indian forums ..

 

[GURU DUTT]

Just answering as you are asking
what do YoUUUU manufacture yourself
you are Importing the kits from Russia and Assembling in HAL and call Su-30MKI, importing awacs from Israeal, Teja Engine from USA &&&& more

looks like i touched a raw nerve

 

[zebra7]

I personally don't care about Indian Muslims ... Truely don't - not any more...

As for riots .. Do you really want that answer ? Visit muzafanagar or the families of the guys who were lynched to death..

A for Pak movies .. Hardly my man.. But even in that 1 people we didn't put a Pak Hindu and question his loyalty.. Call him an Indian and make him act stupid all in the name of loyality to the country.

As for forced to chant Hindu mantras.. Do you want videos ?

This is just 1 ... This video was also posted by an Indian member who was boasting about it...

A lot of such videos can be found on the Internet... Or even in PDF .. Most of whom poste by Indian members supporting this and even encouraging killings of Indian Muslims !

Also it seems from their posts that Indian Muslims are also the biggest menace fornindia ... And are rapists (yes they believe and say it all the time)... The amount of islamophobic and bigoted posts by your ppl here is amazing... Or try your own Indian forums ..

Dear desert fighter our discussion is going offtopic and derailing the thread, so its not good to have discussion here. My advice is you open another thread and I will answer all your queries and doubts.

 

[majid mehmood]

guys be on topic this thread is not india vs pakistan its
why-russia-is-offering-pak-its-best-weapons
especially the indian guys

 

[zebra7]

Reasons :

1. Russia is looking for the new and future market, because in modern world if you don't provide the others will take the opportunity.

2. India a big market getting attracted toward west, so pressurized Indian.

3. Russia need hard cash to support its economy.

4. Russia feeling alone and surrounded with adversaries.

5. Russia is no longer Soviet with large resources, but needs its weapon factories, and institution busy which she is finding difficult, thats why Su-30 have five version to actually keep busy Irkut and Sukhoi line running with whatever order they could get.