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Why Pakistan's Geography Sucks

The video saying that Pakistan was a british creation and pakistan's geography is artificial doesnt know much about modern states and how they came into being and their history.

The entire region was called ''Sindh'', The borders of the kingdom of Sindh included regions like bolan pass/Queutta, makran, kandahar in the westm, kashmir in the north and its eastern borders met Kannauj.

this is well attested in records made by Chinese pilgrim Xuanzang and the arabic records of the kingdom of chach. Even before that, Hou Hanshu mentions the country of Indus in the first centuries AD. So modern state of Pakistan definitely existed in some form way before the British made it one, the kingdom of ranjeet singh was also the principle entity which invaded and conquered the KPK and FATA (hence modern day border between pakistan and afghanistan, even before that swat and kabul served as the terminus point of the indian subcontinent, faxian even calls swat as terminus of northern india) and the northern baltistan areas and up up towards ladakh even before the british came into the picture, the mughals had already ruled and governed balochistan so the eastern balochistan boundary was already well defined before british and the iranians only held the western part of balochistan, king akber defeated the persians and ruled till modern day kandahar as the frontier post of the mughal empire. The khyber pass and valley of kabul was considered as the transitional point or border passage between india and west/central asia.

Even during the british empire, it were ''muslims of indin subcontinent'' who had proposed a north western muslim majority autonomous region'' and was certainly not proposed by the british.

the only credit which goes to the british was demarcating the line which separated india from pakistan, entire sindh province was included and only the division of punjab was made by them, rest of the states fell directly under historical boundaries which were well established even befoore the british arrived at the scene.

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This video is complete nonsense click bait. I don't know where to begin explaining its flawed, inherent, confirmation bias-riddled claptrap. I shall simply refute a single point of interest.

ANYONE who's played the Civilization series would immediately set this YouTuber right on his suggestion that Pakistan has a weak starting position. Pakistan has some great access to early resources, a huge river, mountains for defensive units to be stationed on and a coast. If a Civ starting position reflected reality, Pakistan would do well with a compact "tall" expansion strategy, settling a few super-cities along the Indus. Population would rise quickly and in any version of Civ, population is key, whether it's rapid acquisition of specialists, pop-rushing wonders and units or tapping into high yield tiles early on. Pakistan would be an ancient/medieval era powerhouse with a mix of luxury and strategic resources and great position for exploration across Asia for those early game goody huts. There would be plenty of barbarians for early xp generation and promotion of units and contact with numerous civs could be made in all directions. Pakistan is greatly positioned to annihilate India's early game expansion/exploration desires because it could effectively block off India's westward and northward movement so India would be forced to settle cities in jungle terrain to its south east, which ANY serious Civ player will tell you is suicide in the early game because jungle terrain has minimal production value. Until India unlocks sailing tech, it's screwed basically because Pakistan will block its expansion. Finally, there are several powerful natural wonders that wouldn't be too far away in the west and north if Pakistan could get a settler headed that way (Mt Everest is a potential game breaker) before others reach them. Likewise there are some great westward city states like Jerusalem, Babylon or Muscat for lucrative early alliances.

This YouTube clown clearly has no idea about Civilization whatsoever.
Played Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri too?
 
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Pakistanis MUST NOT keep on doing the stupidity they have been doing all these years. We are not a ethnicity, we are not a nation, we are a CIVILISATION. The pinnacle for group of people to achieve a single governing unit which survives test of time. The world first, the plains of Indus. We MUST look at our region and beyond through this paradigm. The concept of GREATER PAKISTAN in reality is what our ancestors achieved, build , sustained for thousands and thousands of years, extending far far beyond to our current borders both in east and west. Those ancient cities and settlements, now lying in ruins , far away from our borders, were not build by aliens , they our direct ancestors , right here in our Indus valley.

Allah give us back control of our "heartland", when we invoke his name. No doubt, the hinterlands will be merged to motherland when his name is invoked again with sincerity. We must have tunnel vision towards this goal with no compromise what so ever.

This will resolve any geographical issue.
 
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The capital should have been in some place in the cross road of the 4 provinces. D.G Khan would have been a much better choice because it's right in the middle of the country and is strategically located

Multan or Bahawalpur.
This video is complete nonsense click bait. I don't know where to begin explaining its flawed, inherent, confirmation bias-riddled claptrap. I shall simply refute a single point of interest.

ANYONE who's played the Civilization series would immediately set this YouTuber right on his suggestion that Pakistan has a weak starting position. Pakistan has some great access to early resources, a huge river, mountains for defensive units to be stationed on and a coast. If a Civ starting position reflected reality, Pakistan would do well with a compact "tall" expansion strategy, settling a few super-cities along the Indus. Population would rise quickly and in any version of Civ, population is key, whether it's rapid acquisition of specialists, pop-rushing wonders and units or tapping into high yield tiles early on. Pakistan would be an ancient/medieval era powerhouse with a mix of luxury and strategic resources and great position for exploration across Asia for those early game goody huts. There would be plenty of barbarians for early xp generation and promotion of units and contact with numerous civs could be made in all directions. Pakistan is greatly positioned to annihilate India's early game expansion/exploration desires because it could effectively block off India's westward and northward movement so India would be forced to settle cities in jungle terrain to its south east, which ANY serious Civ player will tell you is suicide in the early game because jungle terrain has minimal production value. Until India unlocks sailing tech, it's screwed basically because Pakistan will block its expansion. Finally, there are several powerful natural wonders that wouldn't be too far away in the west and north if Pakistan could get a settler headed that way (Mt Everest is a potential game breaker) before others reach them. Likewise there are some great westward city states like Jerusalem, Babylon or Muscat for lucrative early alliances.

This YouTube clown clearly has no idea about Civilization whatsoever.

WHAT a pity you have not been alive the last 800 years.
 
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All said and done whose bright idea was it to make our capital just 80 km from the Kashmir border? :partay:


What the video failed to mention is that the Pak Army is 220 million strong and growing. Not many countries can boast such capability.

Ideal location for a capital city would have been west of DG Khan.

Multan would have been ok as well. But still what like 6-7 hrs from the border?
 
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If the world is not laughing at your dreams, then your dreams are not big enough, our fore-father literally dreamt of Pakistan and we will too get outta here.

Count the number of people on this thread with two Pakistan flags. Then count the number with just one. Pakistanis have already voted.
 
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If the world is not laughing at your dreams, then your dreams are not big enough, our fore-father literally dreamt of Pakistan and we will too get outta here.

Your 'dreams' happen to have an eye on other countries' soil. That's not appreciated. Keep your dreams within your borders and strive for it, that's actually what every country should do.
 
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Ofcourse without the disputed territories, Pakistan remains incomplete in every sense be it geographical or political or societal.

Your 'dreams' happen to have an eye on other countries' soil. That's not appreciated. Keep your dreams within your borders and strive for it, that's actually what every country should do.

you say that to everyone with a Persian Empire map too?
 
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Ofcourse without the disputed territories, Pakistan remains incomplete in every sense be it geographical or political or societal.



you say that to everyone with a Persian Empire map too?

I wonder how he kept a straight facing when writing that.
 
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I wonder how he kept a straight facing when writing that.

why even bother faking it? every third Iranian poster here comes up with a map thousands of years old just like Indian posters.

India even has a blasphemous national anthem by that virtue.
 
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Watch the video before jumping into any heated debate.

It looks like a trash propaganda video made by a gangu for his gangu viewers. I couldn't watch this POS beyond first 20 seconds.
 
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