Why pakistan and india are fighting over kashmir?

[damiendehorn]

Where am I patronizing?. I read somewhere where you mentioned that your father is Anglo-Dutch and mother Bangladeshi. I am sorry if I mistaken you for someone.

You said because i was half european ....that somehow means i dont know whats happening in kashmir. That is very patronizing, just because i dont prescribe to your point of view does not mean i dont know what is happening there either.

 

[ito]

You said because i was half european ....that somehow means i dont know whats happening in kashmir. That is very patronizing, just because i prescribe to your point of view does not mean i dont know what is happening there either.

Not at all...people tends to be knowledgeable on areas where the issues can effect them profoundly. I am an Indian..Kashmir is something that effect me immensely hence keep track of everything that pertains to Kashmir. While for an European or for a Bangladeshi, Kashmir is just a news item.

 

[OrionHunter]

See because of the historical facts of kashmir and the desire of the muslim population of kashmir to join pakistan there is no way india deserves a inch of kashmir.Based on the paksitan ideology and the partition after wards kashmir would be part of pakistan.Britishers installed a hindu raja in muslim majority kashmir does not change the facts.I agree everything in this video other than what the said about the human right abuses on both sides.Human right abuses are only in IOK not in azad kashmir. IOK is the main root cause of kashmir conflict.

Utter rubbish! Ask the Kashmirs in Pak Occupied Kashmir too whether they want independence from Pakistan. As per a poll held by Chatham House 90% said YES!

 

[damiendehorn]

Not at all...people tends to be knowledgeable on areas where the issues can effect them profoundly. I am an Indian..Kashmir is something that effect me immensely hence keep track of everything that pertains to Kashmir. While for an European or for a Bangladeshi, Kashmir is just a news item.

I am half Bangladeshi, an in many ways being just part Bangladeshi means i am more interested in the affairs of the sub-continent. But more then that, the rights of kashmiris is just as valid as the scots, and i see no reason why the kashmiris should not decide their own future.

 

[ito]

I am half Bangladeshi, an in many ways being just part Bangladeshi means i am more interested in the affairs of the sub-continent. But more then that, the rights of kashmiris is just as valid as the scots, and i see no reason why the kashmiris should not decide their own future.

Kashmir is not Scotland...and Kashmiris have already decided. And as a Bangladeshi, Kashmir should not concern you.

 

[damiendehorn]

Kashmir is not Scotland...and Kashmiris have already decided. And as a Bangladeshi, Kashmir should not concern you.

Why should it not concern me, and who are you to say what should or should not concern me?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Oh thank you Sethi Sahib for the complement !

But why would we even need to consider whether Pakistan is an attractive proposition to the Kashmiris or not ? That would only be a cause for concern to us were a Scotland like referendum were looming right over us which it isn't and would probably never be till this region has a bit more maturity and bit less insecurity in who they are. Right now just maintain our stance but focus on ourselves first.

Briefly learn how the game is played; learn how if you've got the right nuisance value even your most horrendous acts that can never be condoned get rationalized away. In short learn from Israel, India and the US. Learn the power of words, drama and above all economics. In the meantime concentrate with ripening restlessness on kick starting Pakistan's economy and solving the internal challenges that Pakistan faces.

Besides Sethi Sahib I am a Kashmiri....do you think I'd ever abandon Pakistan just because economically or socially its not the paradise we all wanted it to be ? I don't take out a weighing scale and weigh the pros and cons of being a Pakistani...I feel privileged every single day to be born as one because for me my relationship with the State of Pakistan is not a rational construct it is purely an emotional construct - I love it and I don't need a reason to love it. There are countless many like me. Aaap ne tou eik hi pal mein paraya kar diyaa ?

zye Kaun Se Sethi sahib hain? Obviously Indians know of only one 'Sethi' from Pakistan

 

[SecularNationalist]

Why should it not concern me, and who are you to say what should or should not concern me?

Yes dude you have right to mention their rape and genocide against poor innocent kashmiris.

 

[ito]

Why should it not concern me, and who are you to say what should or should not concern me?

Now come on...how would Kashmir concerns a Bangladeshi....now you are being illogical.

 

[damiendehorn]

Now come on...how would Kashmir concerns a Bangladeshi....now you are being illogical.

What Bangladeshis should not concerned by the plight of others? I have every right to be conerned for the rights of who ever i wish to, palestinians, kashmiris, chakmas, etc. People denied rights of freedom have every right to fight back.

And i dont need your permission to speak out....

 

[SecularNationalist]

Talking & arguing like a Kid,what is yr forex reserves,what is yr GDP,Balance of Payments position(BOP) what is yr foreign investment
how do u pay yr international loans & debts,are u aware. To Pay loans,u take loans,aid from IMF, World Bank & other countries. Don't talk about poverty levels.What about extremism,Sectarian voilence & political voilence. Infact extremism & Talibanization is eating your country like a PARASITE from inside. All yr military operations including the current one This E That has been a failure.

Talking such non sense and yet you have the audacity to call me a kid wow
The issues you mentioned have nothing to do with our ability to maintain kashmir.Despite your called GDP etc figures above who most indian population is dirt poor ?Simply because despite providing them a good life styles and using your resources on them you are using that money for maintaining 600,000 army in kashmir for making kashmiris indians by force using rape and genocide. The result is a complete failure kashmir is still resisting and want freedom from india and at the same time majority of indian population is dirt poor.

 

[ito]

What Bangladeshis should not concerned by the plight of others? I have every right to be conerned for the rights of who ever i wish to, palestinians, kashmiris, chakmas, etc. People denied rights of freedom have every right to fight back.

And i dont need your permission to speak out....

I thought you to be an outsider and took lot of my time to reply to your illogical and childish posts. But if your are one of those Jamatis whose is more Pakistani than Pakistanis themselves, I cannot help. I rest my case here. And please don't quote me again.

 

[damiendehorn]

I thought you to be an outsider and took lot of my time to reply to your illogical and childish posts. But if your are one of those Jamatis whose is more Pakistani than Pakistanis themselves, I cannot help. I rest my case here. And please don't quote me again.

Now whos being childish and illogical? A beer drinking, atheist half Bangladeshi....is that your definition of a jamati....or is it anyone who wont except your hindutva world view? Just because you want other people to turn a blinde eye to kashmir dont mean we listen.

 

[livingdead]

I am half Bangladeshi, an in many ways being just part Bangladeshi means i am more interested in the affairs of the sub-continent. But more then that, the rights of kashmiris is just as valid as the scots, and i see no reason why the kashmiris should not decide their own future.

kashmir is more northern ireland than scotland.. it needs good relation between India and pakistan to have any meaningful lasting solution.

 

[damiendehorn]

kashmir is more northern ireland than scotland.. it needs good relation between India and pakistan to have any meaningful lasting solution.

Yeah you might be right, but in the case of northern ireland the UK government wasnt refusing a plebisite. The catholics in northern ireland are a minority who were agitating for a greater share of governance or union with the republic. if sin fein can get a majority, they can call for a referendum on independence or union, which the UK government will have to accept.