Why pakistan and india are fighting over kashmir?

[livingdead]

Yeah you might be right, but in the case of northern ireland the UK government wasnt refusing a plebisite. The catholics in northern ireland are a minority who were agitating for a greater share of governance or union with the republic. if sin fein can get a majority, they can call for a referendum on independence or union, which the UK government will have to accept.

I very much doubt it.. even bloody sunday has not come to proper closure... even with normal relation with ireland, UK wont allow NI to go. Besides NI does not have law like kashmir where outsiders cant settle or take part in plebicite, so there is little chance of UK losing plebicite.

the current compromise will stay for quite long time.

 

[damiendehorn]

I very much doubt it.. even bloody sunday has not come to proper closure... even with normal relation with ireland, UK wont allow NI to go. Besides NI does not have law like kashmir where outsiders cant settle or take part in plebicite, so there is little chance of UK losing plebicite.

the current compromise will stay for quite long time.

This is the main difference between northern ireland and kashmir, kashmir has a majority muslim population who given the option may (most likely given the chance) decide to leave the union, hence the indian government refuses a plebicite.

In northern ireland the majority are protestant, and they want to remain with the union. the catholics arent calling for a plebicite because they dont have the numbers, so they agitate for greater representation in pariliament ie power sharing.

 

[livingdead]

This is the main difference between northern ireland and kashmir, kashmir has a majority muslim population who given the option may (most likely given the chance) decide to leave the union, hence the indian government refuses a plebicite.

In northern ireland the majority are protestant, and they want to remain with the union. the catholics arent calling for a plebicite because they dont have the numbers, so they agitate for greater representation in pariliament ie power sharing.

catholics(republicans is a better term as some catholics are unionist too) have toned down but they wanted the whole isle to be in republic.. the majority that unionists enjoy is due to migration from british isles...sometimes using violence... although it happened long time ago.
I was pointing to the moral reason behind referendum, not technical issue of who is in majority. UK will not allow morality to dictate NI policy. (or indeed falkland)

 

[suresh1773]

Talking such non sense and yet you have the audacity to call me a kid wow
The issues you mentioned have nothing to do with our ability to maintain kashmir.Despite your called GDP etc figures above who most indian population is dirt poor ?Simply because despite providing them a good life styles and using your resources on them you are using that money for maintaining 600,000 army in kashmir for making kashmiris indians by force using rape and genocide. The result is a complete failure kashmir is still resisting and want freedom from india and at the same time majority of indian population is dirt poor.

first of all u have a similar problem in Balochistan right from 1947 which u call it Indian sponsored terrorism & not freedom struggle.Even the army check posts in Balochistan has doubled & so crime,murder of Baloch activists.Indians don't come to Balochistan to attack yr gas pipelines,kidnap,murder & torture Balcoh activists.What's happening in Kashmir is freedom struggle & in Balochistan is Indian sponsored terrorism. In short different rules for different countries
About dirt poor,the IMF & the World Bank should stop all the aid,loans to Pakistan. Yr country will be hundred times much worst then dirt poor.
I want to see how yr country clears International debts,loans.An up hill task
A few months yr country was battling with petrol crisis followed by Electricity & water. I also want to remind U that pakistan supported militants & extremist(taliban) for some strategic depth in Kashmir,Afghanistan & elsewhere,today the same Militants r biting u in a much bigger way

Kashmir is no Iraq specially Indian Occupied Kashmir is NO Iraq

I personally feel US should get hands on Kashmir for own good ))

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Will u say the same for Balochistan,right now it is Indian sponsored terrorism. I know the reality, I recently saw a few documentaries on Balcohistan on Alzeera.

 

[Echo_419]

To be absolutely candid here, 10 years ago, I would have walked all over you if you had given this line of argument but given the present circumstances, Pakistan's existing problems and the fact that we are already a nation in social, economic and security turmoil, there is no way that we can make a case for Kashmir to cede to us. The dynamics of global politics are also changing and it is in both nation's interests to forge a cordial trade relationship if not a friendly one that can work for the alleviation of poverty in the region, however, backtracking from the claim to Kashmir will hit Pakistan at what has been constructed to be one of the core components of its identity and a weakened nation might not be able to take that blow.
Its thus an interesting paradox, we can't take Kashmir and we also can't stop hoping that we will take it.

Indeed time has come to declare the LOC as international border

 

[damiendehorn]

catholics(republicans is a better term as some catholics are unionist too) have toned down but they wanted the whole isle to be in republic.. the majority that unionists enjoy is due to migration from british isles...sometimes using violence... although it happened long time ago.
I was pointing to the moral reason behind referendum, not technical issue of who is in majority. UK will not allow morality to dictate NI policy. (or indeed falkland)

Hey falklands is british....the sheep on the have all voted to remain with the union.

 

[tarrar]

Because of Indian illegal occupation of Kashmir.